I voted on 2 November 2004, how about you?

CoworkerLurker · Post by **CoworkerLurker** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 8:05 pm

My vote is cast (on the way home from work).

spectabillis · Post by **spectabillis** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 8:10 pm

Nope... you can blame me for everything that goes wrong the next 4 years.

Simply Joel · Post by **Simply Joel** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 8:47 pm

Alpha wrote:No no no Joel. Kelly insinuated that the reason Diebold didn't put in a paper trail is because it would interfere with their sinister plans to hijack the election in favor of Bush. You said that was a baseless accusation. I proved that it was, in fact, NOT a baseless accusation because the very CEO of Diebold promised to "deliver Ohio's electoral votes" in favor of Bush. It's an obvious conflict of interest and get real -- would you vote on a machine that Michael Moore created, that left no paper trail?

well, if saying "deliver Ohio's electorial votes" means to you... "i am going to do something illegal to ensure the re-election" then you have a healthy imagination. let me introduce you to another conspiracy propagator, DVD.

tisha2 · Post by **tisha2** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 8:54 pm

why, yes I did, thank you for asking! and aren't you up a bit late for your time zone and ungodly hour of waking, young man?

tonytohono · Post by **tonytohono** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 8:54 pm

I voted via absentee ballot... but judging by the results I am hearing right now it's looking like I voted in the minority. 4 more years of lies, deception, and those idiots waving their checks and saying, "but I got a tax break, didn't I?" So what if my country is in debt.

But at least I can rest assured knowing that my UPS driver has an MA in some sort of technological science. But does it make him a better driver? He says, "Yes." At least it's a clean air vehicle. That's saying something.

Simply Joel · Post by **Simply Joel** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 8:59 pm

tisha2 wrote:why, yes I did, thank you for asking! and aren't you up a bit late for your time zone and ungodly hour of waking, young man?

that would be correct. maybe i can sleep in to 6AM.

Alpha · Post by **Alpha** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 9:11 pm

Simply Joel wrote:well, if saying "deliver Ohio's electorial votes" means to you... "i am going to do something illegal to ensure the re-election" then you have a healthy imagination.

I hardly think so, but why not answer my second question? If Michael Moore (or George Soros) created a voting machine that had no way to perform a reliable recount, would you use it?

Alpha · Post by **Alpha** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 9:21 pm

Oh and Jeb Bush promised to "deliver Florida" to GW in 2000, the exact same verbage O'Dell used. So don't you talk to me about overactive imagination.

spectabillis · Post by **spectabillis** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 11:06 pm

Alpha wrote:Oh and Jeb Bush promised to "deliver Florida" to GW in 2000, the exact same verbage O'Dell used. So don't you talk to me about overactive imagination.

The only conspiracy was Ohio voters getting the not-so-alien anal probe, but at this point I support an assasination plot.

Ohio's 2 main Voter Issues:
- Employment (i.e. Economy)
- Mid-Western Morals

King George got him with the rural vote, Kerry's job loss arguments only had a substantial effect in a few counties that suffered an over ammount of unemployment. Idiots really, there were more than enough unemployed numbers to offset the difference. WTF happened with that?

spectabillis · Post by **spectabillis** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 11:11 pm

Ya know, some states have that blue-law that forbids the serving of alcohol on election day.

Maybe those should be reversed, seems like people just might make the right decision drunk.

Fucking Mormons.

Simply Joel · Post by **Simply Joel** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 3:37 am

Alpha wrote:
Simply Joel wrote:well, if saying "deliver Ohio's electorial votes" means to you... "i am going to do something illegal to ensure the re-election" then you have a healthy imagination.
I hardly think so, but why not answer my second question? If Michael Moore (or George Soros) created a voting machine that had no way to perform a reliable recount, would you use it?

if that were my only choice, yes, i would vote... yet the comparison isn't quite realistic... one is a well respected executive in the community with political ties and one is Michael Moore. Yet, I am sure you see the world differently than i do.

Simply Joel · Post by **Simply Joel** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 7:01 am

Alpha wrote:Oh and Jeb Bush promised to "deliver Florida" to GW in 2000, the exact same verbage O'Dell used. So don't you talk to me about overactive imagination.

okie dokie... by the way, Kerry took Illinois... so don't blame me.

Illinois President 11484 of 11740 precincts - 98 percent
x- John F. Kerry Dem 2,753,525 - 55 percent
George W. Bush (i) Rep 2,225,320 - 44 percent
Michael Badnarik Lib 30,686 - 1 percent

tonytohono · Post by **tonytohono** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 7:01 am

Fucking morons who voted for Bush. And the democratic party for choosing someone with so much baggage. Looks like another embarassing situation for any of us who decide to leave the country. American, uh, who me? Uh...

Can you say, "Let's go to war"?

Simply Joel · Post by **Simply Joel** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 7:06 am

tonytohono wrote:the democratic party for choosing someone with so much baggage. Looks like another embarassing situation for any of us who decide to leave the country. American, uh, who me? Uh...

Can you say, "Let's go to war"?

buh bye!

Alpha · Post by **Alpha** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 7:15 am

Agreed, Michael Moore != Diebold's O'Dell. Soros is closer, though.. anyway it's a moot point because Diebold machines were NOT used heavily (at all??) this year. Still I stand by the principle: voting machines MUST create an auditable paper trail.

I guess I'll head off to the Fuck thread, though even that doesn't really capture to sense of gloom that I feel. #3 on my sob list is the environment -- can we handle another 4 years of environmental rape? #2 is the war on terror -- will GW succeed in making the ENTIRE globe detest us? And #1 is the Supreme Court -- with 3-4 justices sure to retire in the next 4 years, GW's legacy will prevail upon domestic issues for 20 years to come. I can see Patriot Act 3 now -- tattooing serial numbers on the arms of anyone suspected of anything they care to conjure up, perhaps?

Simply Joel · Post by **Simply Joel** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 8:16 am

Alpha wrote:... anyway it's a moot point because Diebold machines were NOT used heavily (at all??) this year. Still I stand by the principle: voting machines MUST create an auditable paper trail.

Hey Alpha, i will stand side by side with you on that issue... for similar as well as additional different reasons.

SilkenTofu · Post by **SilkenTofu** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 8:34 am

I really liked the new machines we have in Sacramento County, we got rid of the hole punching, chad creating fossils. We now have a scantron, fill in the bubble and feed it as you leave to count your vote.

Although, the scantron did cause me to have a highschool flashback and I kept whispering to the lady next to me "What did you put for number 5"?

tonytohono · Post by **tonytohono** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 8:59 am

It's official. 4 more years.

Ugh..........

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 9:06 am

KellY wrote:Voted in Oakland, Californ-aye-ai with a paper ballot, instead of those damn deibold things. I wouldn't have minded using a computer if there was any kind of reciept or paper trail, but I think Diebold felt that would interfere with the GOP winning...

From what I heard on the street, at one of the Berkeley polling places the Diebolds went down somehow. I did the paper too for pretty much the same reason.

Simply Joel · Post by **Simply Joel** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 9:10 am

yo yo yo.... this is not defeat people... well, not from my perspective.

the system worked.

now, as i said to CA somewhere... oh, in a snail mail yet to be delivered...

this is the time to begin working for the congressional elections in two years.

my my my... such sad faces.

get over it, move onto the next task... get your legislature back in 2006... and then work on 2008...

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 9:11 am

Dork wrote:
Vote day should be a national holiday. No one works, everyone (who wants to) votes.
4 day weekend?
I did appreciate a nice meander by all the booteeks and the library on my way home from the firehouse, not to mention the latte that kept my misery level down as I stood in line for an hour. Abbreiviated hours and manditory timeoff to vote would be a good thing.

If you give people a day off, many of them will leave town. Some would take Monday off and turn it into a 3-day weekend. Also, it's not as if nobody works on a national holiday.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 9:14 am

Alpha wrote:Agreed, Michael Moore != Diebold's O'Dell. Soros is closer, though.. anyway it's a moot point because Diebold machines were NOT used heavily (at all??) this year. Still I stand by the principle: voting machines MUST create an auditable paper trail.

INdeed. Hackers? Those machines probably sit in a wearhouse for months and years between uses. A big chance for mischeif.

tonytohono · Post by **tonytohono** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 9:36 am

As I have stated elsewhere... Imagine this:

When W is gone, which Bush will be in line to follow? Think about it. The Dynasty is going to be with us for a long long time. Talk about messed up. They will figure out some dirty rotton way to put another Bush in there the next time around. Oh, unless they change the constitution, then we can look forward to Ahnold.

lol~! An actual son of the SS in our Whitehouse. Imagine the 'cartwheels in their caskets' our forefathers will be doing then.