Top 10 leftist liberal excuses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That suggests a Luddite's understanding of how science works.The science is not there, there is zero evidence that stem cells can help with spinal cord injury, alzhiemer's or anything for that matter.
There was also a time in a small laboratory when LASER was just a novel form of light. No use. In fact it was so novel that the originator never bothered to file a patent until years later.
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Nobody is saying that there WONT be someday something to do with stem cells, but Alzheimer's is a growth of a protien plaque on brain tissue. If you grow more brain tissue (which is what stem cells would do if you can coax them into it) the new tissue would just get covered with the plaque too.
It is akin to saying that these chinese checkers on my desk are a potential cure for Alzheimers. Sure ... anything is POSSIBLE but not likely.
As for paralysis, I have read papers from several doctors that say that it isn't even on the RADAR as a possible treatment. Anyone claiming that stem cell research is a potential cure is about as correct as someone saying that we should be doing research for human suspended animation for trips to Pluto. And if you pull the plug on suspeneded animation research you might prevent them from finding a cause for Alzheimers.
Stem cell research is probably going to show its benefit in growing bone marrow, blood, bone, and skin tissue in the next few decades.
I will bet you that stem cell research never factors in any way with Alzheimers or Mad Cow.
It is akin to saying that these chinese checkers on my desk are a potential cure for Alzheimers. Sure ... anything is POSSIBLE but not likely.
As for paralysis, I have read papers from several doctors that say that it isn't even on the RADAR as a possible treatment. Anyone claiming that stem cell research is a potential cure is about as correct as someone saying that we should be doing research for human suspended animation for trips to Pluto. And if you pull the plug on suspeneded animation research you might prevent them from finding a cause for Alzheimers.
Stem cell research is probably going to show its benefit in growing bone marrow, blood, bone, and skin tissue in the next few decades.
I will bet you that stem cell research never factors in any way with Alzheimers or Mad Cow.
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Okay, I have done a little more reading on the subject and this is what I have learned:
1. There is CONSIDERABLE confusion on the part of people writing articles on the subject. So far I have only found TWO that seem to correctly state what is really going on. Many are way off base and think there is some kind of ban on research. There isn't. There is a FUNDING LIMIT of $25 Million/year for research in the existing 60 lines of human ES cell lines. There is a ban on FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FUNDING of harvesting of additional ES cell lines but state/local/private funding of such research is allowed. There is no ban on research in any way.
2. Some think the non-existant "ban" applies to AS as well as ES stem cells. This is not true. No funding limitations were place on adult stem cell research. Things such as implanting pancreatic stem cells for possible treatment for diabetes and bonen marrow stem cells for possible treatment of leukemia are allowed to continue unabated.
So we have a problem where people are protesting problems that don't exist or are pushing for immediate application of tools that don't exist.
Here is one good article:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/ar ... 4Jun9.html
1. There is CONSIDERABLE confusion on the part of people writing articles on the subject. So far I have only found TWO that seem to correctly state what is really going on. Many are way off base and think there is some kind of ban on research. There isn't. There is a FUNDING LIMIT of $25 Million/year for research in the existing 60 lines of human ES cell lines. There is a ban on FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FUNDING of harvesting of additional ES cell lines but state/local/private funding of such research is allowed. There is no ban on research in any way.
2. Some think the non-existant "ban" applies to AS as well as ES stem cells. This is not true. No funding limitations were place on adult stem cell research. Things such as implanting pancreatic stem cells for possible treatment for diabetes and bonen marrow stem cells for possible treatment of leukemia are allowed to continue unabated.
So we have a problem where people are protesting problems that don't exist or are pushing for immediate application of tools that don't exist.
Here is one good article:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/ar ... 4Jun9.html
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Sorry, i could have had 10 easy, just look at all the arm flapping, I hate Bush- Micheal Moore rejects and their own excuses....I was having too much fun thinking of the GOP agenda, the Senate and House seats won and the next few Supreme Court justices that will be in place, thoughts of Tom Daschle packing his shit up in his office, the backwoods drawl from Edwards in the concession speech and of course Skerry's own pathetic attempt at softening the blow the entire Democratic Party was handed........ PRICELESS!!!!!!!!!!!
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Cali, do you have any social skills whatsoever?
I mean, it's nice to see somebody happy, but you haven't attempted any kind of actual CONVERSATION with anyone since god-only-knows-when.
gloating, as fun as it is for you, doesn't cut it.
hell, if you want to, go ahead. but your behaviour is certainly making you plummet in my esteem. i'd wager i'm not alone.
can i suggest taking some cues from Geekster? we disagree, but he brings a lot to REAL conversations, from which i, like so many others, am learning....
I mean, it's nice to see somebody happy, but you haven't attempted any kind of actual CONVERSATION with anyone since god-only-knows-when.
gloating, as fun as it is for you, doesn't cut it.
hell, if you want to, go ahead. but your behaviour is certainly making you plummet in my esteem. i'd wager i'm not alone.
can i suggest taking some cues from Geekster? we disagree, but he brings a lot to REAL conversations, from which i, like so many others, am learning....
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I got this in the mail today and thought that it said what a lot of us are thinking.
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Comedian Adam Felber ran (barely) a fake campaign for president.
Attached is his concession speech.
[Former candidate Felber, flanked by his family and supporters, steps up to the podium in the bright autumn sunlight. Cheers and applause are heard.]
My fellow Americans, the people of this nation have spoken, and spoken with a clear voice. So I am here to offer my concession. [Boos, groans, rending of garments]
I concede that I overestimated the intelligence of the American people. Though the people disagree with the President on almost every issue, you saw fit to vote for him. I never saw that coming. That's really special. And I mean "special" in the sense that we use it to describe those kids who ride the short school bus and find ways to injure themselves while eating pudding with rubber spoons. That kind of special.
I concede that I misjudged the power of hate. That's pretty powerful stuff, and I didn't see it. So let me take a moment to congratulate the President's strategists:
Putting the gay marriage amendments on the ballot in various swing states like Ohio...
well, that was just genius. Genius. It got people, a certain kind of people, to the polls. The unprecedented number of folks who showed up and cited "moral values" as their biggest issue, those people changed history. The folks who consider same sex marriage a more important issue than war, or terrorism, or the economy... Who'd have thought the election would belong to them? Well, Karl Rove did. Gotta give it up to him for that. [Boos.] Now, now. Credit where it's due.
I concede that I put too much faith in America's youth. With 8 out of 10 of you opposing the President, with your friends and classmates dying daily in a war you disapprove of, with your future being mortgaged to pay for rich old peoples' tax breaks, you somehow managed to sit on your asses and watch the Cartoon Network while aging homophobic hillbillies carried the day. You voted with the exact same anemic percentage that you did in 2000. You suck. Seriously, y'do. [Cheers, applause] Thank you. Thank you very much.
There are some who would say that I sound bitter, that now is the time for healing, to bring the nation together. Let me tell you a little story. Last night, I watched the returns come in with some friends here in Los Angeles. As the night progressed,people began to talk half-seriously about secession, a red state / blue state split. The reasoning was this: We in blue states produce the vast majority of the wealth in this country and pay the most taxes, and you in the red states receive the majority of the money from those taxes while complaining about 'em. We in the blue states are the only ones who've been attacked by foreign terrorists, yet you in the red states are gung ho to fight a war in our name. We in the blue states produce the entertainment that you consume so greedily each day, while you in the red states show open disdain for us and our values. Blue state civilians are the actual victims and targets of the war on terror, while red state civilians are the ones standing behind us and yelling "Oh, yeah!? Bring it on!"
More than 40% of you Bush voters still believe that Saddam Hussein had something to do with 9/11. I'm impressed by that, truly I am. Your sons and daughters who might die in this war know it's not true, the people in the urban centers where al Qaeda wants to attack know it's not true, but those of you who are at practically no risk believe this easy lie because you can. As part of my concession speech, let me say that I really envy that luxury. I concede that.
Healing? We, the people at risk from terrorists, the people who subsidize you, the people who speak in glowing and respectful terms about the heartland of America while that heartland insults and excoriates us... we wanted some healing. We spoke loud and clear. And you refused to give it to us, largely because of your high moral values. You knew better: America doesn't need its allies, doesn't need to share the burden, doesn't need to unite the world, doesn't need to provide for its future. Hell no. Not when it's got a human shield of pointy-headed, atheistic, unconfrontational breadwinners who are willing to pay the bills and play nice in the vain hope of winning a vote that we can never have. Because we're "morally inferior," I suppose, we are supposed to respect your values while you insult ours. And the big joke here is that for 20 years, we've done just that.
It's not a "ha-ha" funny joke, I realize, but it's a joke all the same.
Being an independent candidate gives me one luxury - as well as conceding the election today, I am also announcing my candidacy for President in 2008. [Wild applause, screams, chants of "Fel-ber! Fel-ber!] Thank you.
And I make this pledge to you today: THIS time, next time, there will be no pandering. This time I will run with all the open and joking contempt for my opponents that our President demonstrated towards the cradle of liberty, the Ivy League intellectuals, the "media elite," and the "white-wine sippers." This time I will not pretend that the simple folk of America know just as much as the people who devote their lives to serving and studying the nation and the world. They don't.
So that's why I'm asking for your vote in 2008, America. I'm talking to you, you ignorant, slack-jawed yokels, you bible-thumping, inbred drones, you redneck, racist, chest-thumping, perennially duped grade-school grads. Vote for me, because I know better, and I truly believe that I can help your smug, sorry asses. Vote Felber in '08! Thank you, and may God, if he does in fact exist, bless each and every one of you.
[Tumultuous cheers, applause, and foot-stomping. PULL BACK to reveal the rest of the stage, the row of cameras, hundreds of unoccupied chairs, and the empty field beyond.]
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Comedian Adam Felber ran (barely) a fake campaign for president.
Attached is his concession speech.
[Former candidate Felber, flanked by his family and supporters, steps up to the podium in the bright autumn sunlight. Cheers and applause are heard.]
My fellow Americans, the people of this nation have spoken, and spoken with a clear voice. So I am here to offer my concession. [Boos, groans, rending of garments]
I concede that I overestimated the intelligence of the American people. Though the people disagree with the President on almost every issue, you saw fit to vote for him. I never saw that coming. That's really special. And I mean "special" in the sense that we use it to describe those kids who ride the short school bus and find ways to injure themselves while eating pudding with rubber spoons. That kind of special.
I concede that I misjudged the power of hate. That's pretty powerful stuff, and I didn't see it. So let me take a moment to congratulate the President's strategists:
Putting the gay marriage amendments on the ballot in various swing states like Ohio...
well, that was just genius. Genius. It got people, a certain kind of people, to the polls. The unprecedented number of folks who showed up and cited "moral values" as their biggest issue, those people changed history. The folks who consider same sex marriage a more important issue than war, or terrorism, or the economy... Who'd have thought the election would belong to them? Well, Karl Rove did. Gotta give it up to him for that. [Boos.] Now, now. Credit where it's due.
I concede that I put too much faith in America's youth. With 8 out of 10 of you opposing the President, with your friends and classmates dying daily in a war you disapprove of, with your future being mortgaged to pay for rich old peoples' tax breaks, you somehow managed to sit on your asses and watch the Cartoon Network while aging homophobic hillbillies carried the day. You voted with the exact same anemic percentage that you did in 2000. You suck. Seriously, y'do. [Cheers, applause] Thank you. Thank you very much.
There are some who would say that I sound bitter, that now is the time for healing, to bring the nation together. Let me tell you a little story. Last night, I watched the returns come in with some friends here in Los Angeles. As the night progressed,people began to talk half-seriously about secession, a red state / blue state split. The reasoning was this: We in blue states produce the vast majority of the wealth in this country and pay the most taxes, and you in the red states receive the majority of the money from those taxes while complaining about 'em. We in the blue states are the only ones who've been attacked by foreign terrorists, yet you in the red states are gung ho to fight a war in our name. We in the blue states produce the entertainment that you consume so greedily each day, while you in the red states show open disdain for us and our values. Blue state civilians are the actual victims and targets of the war on terror, while red state civilians are the ones standing behind us and yelling "Oh, yeah!? Bring it on!"
More than 40% of you Bush voters still believe that Saddam Hussein had something to do with 9/11. I'm impressed by that, truly I am. Your sons and daughters who might die in this war know it's not true, the people in the urban centers where al Qaeda wants to attack know it's not true, but those of you who are at practically no risk believe this easy lie because you can. As part of my concession speech, let me say that I really envy that luxury. I concede that.
Healing? We, the people at risk from terrorists, the people who subsidize you, the people who speak in glowing and respectful terms about the heartland of America while that heartland insults and excoriates us... we wanted some healing. We spoke loud and clear. And you refused to give it to us, largely because of your high moral values. You knew better: America doesn't need its allies, doesn't need to share the burden, doesn't need to unite the world, doesn't need to provide for its future. Hell no. Not when it's got a human shield of pointy-headed, atheistic, unconfrontational breadwinners who are willing to pay the bills and play nice in the vain hope of winning a vote that we can never have. Because we're "morally inferior," I suppose, we are supposed to respect your values while you insult ours. And the big joke here is that for 20 years, we've done just that.
It's not a "ha-ha" funny joke, I realize, but it's a joke all the same.
Being an independent candidate gives me one luxury - as well as conceding the election today, I am also announcing my candidacy for President in 2008. [Wild applause, screams, chants of "Fel-ber! Fel-ber!] Thank you.
And I make this pledge to you today: THIS time, next time, there will be no pandering. This time I will run with all the open and joking contempt for my opponents that our President demonstrated towards the cradle of liberty, the Ivy League intellectuals, the "media elite," and the "white-wine sippers." This time I will not pretend that the simple folk of America know just as much as the people who devote their lives to serving and studying the nation and the world. They don't.
So that's why I'm asking for your vote in 2008, America. I'm talking to you, you ignorant, slack-jawed yokels, you bible-thumping, inbred drones, you redneck, racist, chest-thumping, perennially duped grade-school grads. Vote for me, because I know better, and I truly believe that I can help your smug, sorry asses. Vote Felber in '08! Thank you, and may God, if he does in fact exist, bless each and every one of you.
[Tumultuous cheers, applause, and foot-stomping. PULL BACK to reveal the rest of the stage, the row of cameras, hundreds of unoccupied chairs, and the empty field beyond.]
I like playing with fire.
MY TOP 10
1. We were stoned and forgot to vote
2. The system's fucked so we figure why bother
3. The system's rigged to work for the rich and powerful so why bother?
4. There's more of them than there are of us (assuming the system is representative at all)
5. There IS a god and the evangelicals ARE doing just what he wants, so He rewarded his constituency by giving them Bush as president for (gulp!) nearly a decade.
7. We're very 'nice' and 'rational' and 'fair' and 'tolerant' (ie, bunch of spineless wimps!), so we don't play dirty as good as the conservatives
8. We were stoned and forgot to vote
9. We live in San Francisco and New York and Los Angeles, so why vote? Nothing will change in our little slices of liberal heaven anyway.
10. We were stoned and forgot to vote
2. The system's fucked so we figure why bother
3. The system's rigged to work for the rich and powerful so why bother?
4. There's more of them than there are of us (assuming the system is representative at all)
5. There IS a god and the evangelicals ARE doing just what he wants, so He rewarded his constituency by giving them Bush as president for (gulp!) nearly a decade.
7. We're very 'nice' and 'rational' and 'fair' and 'tolerant' (ie, bunch of spineless wimps!), so we don't play dirty as good as the conservatives
8. We were stoned and forgot to vote
9. We live in San Francisco and New York and Los Angeles, so why vote? Nothing will change in our little slices of liberal heaven anyway.
10. We were stoned and forgot to vote
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What? Check the red and blue states again...9. We live in San Francisco and New York and Los Angeles, so why vote? Nothing will change in our little slices of liberal heaven anyway.
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Um...the topic was "Top 10 leftist liberal excuses." I took that to mean, top 10 dumbass excuses that liberals (which I'm) give for losing the election and sending us all down to hell in a handbasket by losing.samtzu wrote:What? Check the red and blue states again...9. We live in San Francisco and New York and Los Angeles, so why vote? Nothing will change in our little slices of liberal heaven anyway.
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What's to elaborate? In fact I'm afraid to say anything for [i]ones failure to read or read correctly and getting accused of threatening ones virtual body or something[/i].
Is it safe to say that I was being factious in the previous post:
Maybe you need to be very specific from now on.
In the meantime I keep my distance.
Thanks.
Is it safe to say that I was being factious in the previous post:
anymore required thinking that need be done from there.......sorry but I will not help. I've done enough thinking in making this post safe enough for me to get around your question.DVD Burner wrote:So....Um,
what ever did happen to this calicowboy sock anyway?
Looks like good 'ol George and his followers is looking great these days huh?
Oh,
and did anyone go to that Israeli bombed bus protest in Berkley Sunday?
Maybe you need to be very specific from now on.
In the meantime I keep my distance.
Thanks.
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Thanks Joel for pointing out the facetious error.
Damn spell checker.
And Rian I really don’t think there is much I can say to you without you believing what you want to believe I say or mean when I write something. You read or not read too much into it.
That is why I keep my distance. Too much trouble. I like to avoid it.
anyhoo, I was speaking of the Israeli bus that was bombed that the Israeli’s are parading around the world. It arrived in Berkley on Sunday and was in San Francisco Monday.
Damn spell checker.
And Rian I really don’t think there is much I can say to you without you believing what you want to believe I say or mean when I write something. You read or not read too much into it.
That is why I keep my distance. Too much trouble. I like to avoid it.
anyhoo, I was speaking of the Israeli bus that was bombed that the Israeli’s are parading around the world. It arrived in Berkley on Sunday and was in San Francisco Monday.
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