Motorcycling to BM

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Re: Motorcycling to BM

Post by tatonka » Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:53 am

Patsh wrote:The trailer is so nice, Tatonka!!
Ride safe, and let us know if there's anything else you'll need...
Delle & Kenny and I usually are over-prepared.

We'll have wonderful shade, too!

See you SOON!
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Re: Motorcycling to BM

Post by Captain Goddammit » Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:01 am

That is such cool stuff! Can't wait to check it out. Especially the hitch.
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Re: Motorcycling to BM

Post by tatonka » Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:48 am

hope it holds the bolt holding the swivel part is 3/8 dia . and the bolt holding the up and down action is .500 dia. The 3/8 has alot of twist on it when its on its kickstand , but going down the road the trailer rides straight. The pin will have a pulling on it while going down the road but that should hold. Crosses fingers :) Only going to go 5o - 55 so should get there .
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Re: Motorcycling to BM

Post by FIGJAM » Sun Aug 16, 2015 11:12 am

I would suggest grade 8 bolts.
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Re: Motorcycling to BM

Post by tatonka » Sun Aug 16, 2015 11:40 am

The hwd store has galvanized and stainless and regular with a zinc plate. I will have to ask where number 8's are.

The larger .500 bolt is 10" all the others only went to 6" , if I cant find the #8 for the 3/8 ths bolt I will change to stainless steel .
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Re: Motorcycling to BM

Post by MikeGyver » Sun Aug 16, 2015 1:29 pm

Would a piece of cable holding it be a good idea? Or would the sudden shift of weight when the cable catches the trailer cause more of an issue than the trailer coming off?
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Re: Motorcycling to BM

Post by Popeye » Sun Aug 16, 2015 2:19 pm

Most hardware stainless bolts are little better than grade 2 carbon steel in strength but more corrosion resistant and stainless will gall and bend easily. Grade 5 (3 lines) are stronger. If you can find 18-8 stainless, not usually in hardware stores, they will have a tensile strength in the 65,000-100,000 range and a yield of about 65,000 psi. Grade 8 carbon has a minimum tensile strength of 150,000 psi and a yield of 130,000 psi. These are pretty critical, suggest you buy grade 8 and put an extra in your pocket. Grade 8 will have 6 lines on the bolt head.
It is the carbon in steel that lets it become hard. Stainless is low carbon steel.
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Re: Motorcycling to BM

Post by Canoe » Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:49 pm

tatonka wrote:Got the trailer done , it was to springy so I added a top strap ( so its like a complete frame now ) ...
Love it!
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Costs more, but if Gerlach is selling potable water again, makes your drive easier/safer?
And you can put them wherever for the slow speed haul from Gerlach to BRC?
Ulisse wrote:Most hardware stainless bolts are little better than grade 2 carbon steel in strength, ... stainless will gall and bend easily, Grade 5 (3 lines on head) are stronger,....18-8 stainless ... 65,000-100,000 range and a yield of about 65,000 psi. Grade 8 carbon has a minimum tensile strength of 150,000 psi and a yield of 130,000 psi. These are pretty critical, suggest you buy grade 8 and put an extra in your pocket. ...
Grade is usually number of lines plus two. Some strong grades use ISO markings: 8.8 for 120,000 psi tensile, 10.9 for 150,000. Most grade 8 I get are six lines with a triangle.

Grade 8 bolts have grade 8 nuts & washers too!
Warning they keep giving me: using a lube on the bolt reduces tensile strength. No idea why.
So don't store your spares in a condom?

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Have spares.
If not grade 8, stop along the way and check if you can buy them.

Whatever you use, stop frequently to check this bolt for wear, bending and cracks.
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Re: Motorcycling to BM

Post by Canoe » Mon Aug 17, 2015 6:39 am

tatonka wrote:... was think about taking this shrink wrap we have for packing at work , and bring a small roll to wrap my bike up in it . But then when I take it off I will have a ball of crap to deal with . So I bagged that but will wrap it in a tarp ...
I forgot.
One of the stories from early on, is how a bike wrapped in a tarp/cover on the playa can get seriously scratched by the cover in a heavy wind. I don't know how true that is, but I've heard the same for cars, etc..
(Speculating) while you'd have to pack it in something like a stuff sack when you take it off, shrink/roll-wrap may be the safe way to go?
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Re: Motorcycling to BM

Post by Patsh » Mon Aug 17, 2015 7:01 am

Canoe wrote:
tatonka wrote:... was think about taking this shrink wrap we have for packing at work , and bring a small roll to wrap my bike up in it . But then when I take it off I will have a ball of crap to deal with . So I bagged that but will wrap it in a tarp ...
I forgot.
One of the stories from early on, is how a bike wrapped in a tarp/cover on the playa can get seriously scratched by the cover in a heavy wind. I don't know how true that is, but I've heard the same for cars, etc..
(Speculating) while you'd have to pack it in something like a stuff sack when you take it off, shrink/roll-wrap may be the safe way to go?

Plus, the wrap would be so much smaller and lighter than a tarp... Just give it to me before you leave, and I'll dispose of it when I get back to AZ.
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Re: Motorcycling to BM

Post by tatonka » Mon Aug 17, 2015 4:34 pm

got the number 8 bolt :) thks , also will bring the shrink wrap thks Patsh ")
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Re: Motorcycling to BM

Post by Captain Goddammit » Mon Aug 17, 2015 7:06 pm

Tatonka bring your ball of shrink wrap over before you go, I'm pretty max on weight but I have space. It weighs nothing.

Oh oops now I see Patsh just said that
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Re: Motorcycling to BM

Post by tatonka » Mon Aug 17, 2015 7:36 pm

Captain Goddammit wrote:Tatonka bring your ball of shrink wrap over before you go, I'm pretty max on weight but I have space. It weighs nothing.

Oh oops now I see Patsh just said that

thks anyway Cpt :)
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Re: Motorcycling to BM

Post by Canoe » Mon Aug 17, 2015 9:15 pm

tatonka wrote:got the number 8 bolt :) thks ...
Do stop and check frequently.
And not just the bolt - any steel it goes through.

I've had both Grade 8 bolt wear-failures and had Grade 8 bolts chew their way through softer steel, and in towing applications.
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Re: Motorcycling to BM

Post by tatonka » Mon Aug 17, 2015 9:21 pm

will do , will stop 2x to eat , and gas up every 140 miles or so , and stop for smoke breaks :) will check all stops :)
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Re: Motorcycling to BM

Post by tatonka » Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:17 am

did a test load today , dam I will look like beverly hillbillys pulling in :)
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Re: Motorcycling to BM

Post by Canoe » Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:35 am

haha

Make sure someone gets a photo!
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Re: Motorcycling to BM

Post by ygmir » Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:45 am

tatonka wrote:did a test load today , dam I will look like beverly hillbillys pulling in :)
that's ok by me:
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Re: Motorcycling to BM

Post by tatonka » Wed Aug 19, 2015 2:47 pm

I had a crush on her and Barbra Eden also :D
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Re: Motorcycling to BM

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Get in line.
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Re: Motorcycling to BM

Post by tatonka » Tue Sep 08, 2015 3:41 pm

made it back , :) trailer didnt :( neck streached to far and was dragging all the time . About 55 miles north of the playa , had to abandon it :( Was a good trip none the less , kick stand spring fell off in Lakeview , lost a gas tank mt bolt ( it held on ) .
On the way to BM I crossed the pass in freezing rain , my glasses froze up , and I got mild burn in my thumbs. Which took three days to thaw out.
during the rain the cooler on the trailer filled with water and increased the weight of trailer and started the neck tweeking . igloo cooler didnt seal well :(
tent was full of dust ( miss my camper ) all food was dusty . For some reason every beer I drank would make me sleepy , so I ended up giving most of it away.

Now the good , it was awesome . I made lots of swag and passed them out to people and got lots of good responses :) Went walking around alot on Sat. and got lots of good comments on my fitness as a skinny old man :) Hanged with Patsh and Delle and Ken and had a great time . Ken charmed all the ladys in . :)

Seen RV's leaving on thur, fri , Sat. couldnt believe it , they had a great place to stay , but still gave it up :/
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Re: Motorcycling to BM

Post by Patsh » Wed Sep 09, 2015 10:13 am

Glad to know you made it home safely, Tatonka!
After you left, I found a nut on the ground where your tent had been... maybe the one you'd lost.

It was great camping with you! Thanks from all of us! :D
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Re: Motorcycling to BM

Post by tatonka » Fri Sep 11, 2015 5:45 pm

Was a great time :) but now I have some kinda illness. More than likley from the chills I got riding the bike in the cold :(

Cant eat much , want to lay in bed all day . Body ached real bad , was eating two special cookies at night and felt good. last night had to take a couple advil , hate taken those on a empty stomach tho .
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Re: Motorcycling to BM

Post by Patsh » Fri Sep 11, 2015 7:19 pm

I hope you feel better SOON!

Did you ever get the feeling back in all your fingers and thumbs after freezing them?
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Re: Motorcycling to BM

Post by tatonka » Fri Sep 11, 2015 7:28 pm

all fingers are good , lower back not so good now and fever, tried to sweat it out today. Feeling a little stronger :)
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Re: Motorcycling to BM

Post by Admiral Fukkit » Fri Sep 11, 2015 7:34 pm

You didn't let Doc Pyro pour you any drinks did you?

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Re: Motorcycling to BM

Post by tatonka » Fri Sep 11, 2015 7:37 pm

nope I stayed sober preety much the whole week :( Was not sleeping well and every beer would make me tired :(
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