The Bar 2014 Edition

[Joeln]

OMG Lucky - some people have the coolest jobs!
Hi VC, ASD, and other regular crowd types.
Coffee is starting to kick in...

[Aurelia]

Hi Joeln,
I gave up coffee..one of my ways of proving personal strength every now and then
today however I shall do it all

Poll opens at 7
have to go.

xoA.

[sadie]

Good Morning Bar.
I voted on my way in this morning.
Rain rain rain in Abilene today....the city was not designed to handle a lot, so streets are already flooding.

all around.

I am looking forward to having 2 out of 3 siblings in town this week end. The 24fps Short Film Fest starts Friday - should be fun.

[ygmir]

*wanders in, makes tea*
wow Lucky, are you taking on a new career? Morris Boss?
Hi ASD!
Hi Sadie! yeah rain.......well, we got a little, but the storm door seems to have closed again, dang.

*heads for IBBOD*

[lucky420]

Noooooo being the Morris boss would be way to much work and I tend to the funner side of things

Just going so i can help relieve the hard workers when needed.

[Elliot]

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*a fearful rattle & ruckus is heard out front of the Bar -- of a bicycle being parked in abandoned hurry, and rapid footfalls approaching the Bar door. skipping footfalls -- dancing footfalls -- accompanied by humming, banging and singing

*the door flies open and in barges a man waving two sheets of paper with the word Ticketmaster at the top, and the date November 24 further down

*he keeps singing, loosely to the melody... very loosely... to the melody of "Don't Stop Thinking About Tomorrow" ...*



Aiii (bap) Ammm (bap) Going To See ... Fleetwood Maaa-ac!



*and the man disappears out a different door, still banging and bellowing*
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.............................Yesterday's Gone, Yesterday's Gone! La-la-la... Don't You Look Back!... Don't You Look Back!...

[Savannah]

Awesome, Elliot!

Good Afternoon, all . . . may your feet stay dry.

[FIGJAM]

My Sherpa arrived!!!!!!!!!

[LeChatNoir]

(From the rafters)

Very cool, Elliot. I only wish I could go too!


Howdy, Bar! Hope you're all doing well. I was enjoying ygmir's project in the Works in Progress 2015 thread.

(Sets out a bottle of Zacapa rum and several glasses)

[unjonharley]

Hey Black Cat.. Russ-t and I wave a dew claw..

[ygmir]

wanders in*
Hey, LCN!! how's things?
Thought of you today, I had to build up steel to make a new end on a tire machine part, sort of remembering, something from a forging lesson at some time: as I added layers, I hit them a lot with a hammer, to shape, and "vibrate" the steel........I seem to remember from somewhere the vibration as the metal cools make is tough or hard?
I added layer up on later to get the shape, hammered, so hardly had to grind at all.........
Thoughts?

Hi UJH!!
gettin some rain up there?

*sets out single malt*

[tatonka]

hammering it will compress it and make it harder , heating it back up makes it soft again ( with a slow cool )

[lucky420]

Morning bar!

for alllllllllllllllllll

[Elliot]

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*runs thru the Bar again, singing, in his night shirt*

...DUM-DUM-DUM-DUM... GO YOUR OWN WAAAAAYYYYY!... DUM-DEE-DUM-DUM-DUM... YOU CAN CALL IT ANOTHER LONELY DAY... OR YOU CAN GO YOUR OWN WAAAYYY!... DUM-DEE-DUM-DEE-DUM...

and so on and so forth

[lucky420]

Elliot is positively giddy this morning.

It's a good look

[ygmir]

*strolls in, makes tea*
yay Elliot! that does sound fun! Are they playing up there at Clearlake?

Hi Lucky!!

Tatonka: I'm not sure I agree with "compressing" when hammering the steel. My thinking is it's more about the vibration and crystal alignment. I hesitate to research it, hoping LCN chimes in.

[Elliot]

Yeah, they are playing my barn, with Lady Christine using my $40.- piano.

Sacramento, at The-Venue-Formerly-Known-As-Arco-Arena -- now Sleep Train station.

[Joeln]

Ygmir, it's the deformation of the steel that hardens it; bending twisting, hammering, anything that changes its dimensions.
Tatonka is correct about annealing.
What happens on deformation is that the large crystals break into progressively smaller ones. As the crystal structure gets smaller, the metal becomes harder & more brittle.
Annealing causes the small crystals to grow back together & form new big ones, then the metal becomes less brittle & easier to bend.

I'd love to see a pic of your work.

-Joel

[Tin Halo]

Soooo.... if I weld something up, then plunge it into cold water...I am ___________?

[Elorrum]

Alright Elliot. LIVE MUSIC IS BETTER. Bumper stickers should be issued.

Morning bar friends! Thanks for the coffee. I found a three year old sealed can of "chock full o'nuts" ground coffee in the garage. Keep? Emergency supplies? Any opinions?

[Simon of the Playa]

Alright Elliot. LIVE MUSIC IS BETTER. Bumper stickers should be issued.

I found a three year old sealed can of "chock full o'nugs" ground cough-y in the garage. Keep? Emergency supplies? Any opinions?

roll it up and smoke it.

[Joeln]

Soooo.... if I weld something up, then plunge it into cold water...I am ___________?

Typically a quench hardens the steel. When annealing with the intent of softening the steel, a slow cooldown is preferred, sometimes even a gentle ramp down in an oven.
This varies greatly with different types of steels and when working with other metals even more.

[ygmir]

Ygmir, it's the deformation of the steel that hardens it; bending twisting, hammering, anything that changes its dimensions.
Tatonka is correct about annealing.
What happens on deformation is that the large crystals break into progressively smaller ones. As the crystal structure gets smaller, the metal becomes harder & more brittle.
Annealing causes the small crystals to grow back together & form new big ones, then the metal becomes less brittle & easier to bend.

I'd love to see a pic of your work.

-Joel

I was not arguing the annealing, I was arguing about "compressing" the steel. I know what you mean about deforming and such, but still feel somewhere I read the vibrating of cooling steel has an effect.

[ygmir]

when creating chisels and such on my forge for stone work, I quench in used motor oil, in degrees watching the color of the steel as it cools and quenching at certain color/temp points.

[Joeln]

Learn something new every day.
The search terms "vibration quenching steel" produce gobs of technical papers.
A quick scan suggests they are trying to control rate and uniformity of liquid quenching, but I didn't really zoom in.
Drop forging was always supposed to be one of the quality way to make stuff, maybe the vibration from hammering changes the microstructure in useful ways.

I've been interested in forging since seeing the youtube videos of the guy making viking sword replicas - cool stuff. google "serpent in the sword"

[ygmir]

yeah, I wish I had more time for "forging" and such. I really feel I can "talk" to the metal and get it to do what I want, but, it takes a lot of time and experience, so, just bits and pieces for me.
I sort of extrapolated/made up a plate shrinking technique when building the HOfstove™, to keep the 3/8" plate cooking surface plate flat under heat and cool cycles. I love that sort of stuff.

[robbidobbs]

Good morning! Don't mean to interrupt.
I'm happy(er).
heating pad installed on bed, check.
Clear xmoose lights installed over bed, check.
Had fun dream last night due to happy sleeping place, check.
Made a pan of corn bread, w butter and rhubarb jam. Yay.
Pot of fresh ground hazelnut roast coffee (you can chuck the chock full o' nuts swill IMO)
Day off, no plans.
Enjoy!
Do continue guys.

[Lonesomebri]

Getting ready to head over to Oakland and the Uptown Nightclub to see Dick Dale, KING of the Surf Guitar. Just wanted to check in and show I ain't some one note johnny. Tomorrow I head up north for another playdate for my foster dog Teddy. The hippie chick who plans to adopt has already picked out a new non-slave name, Dedgi. She wants to adopt on Nev 22, the new moon. This weekend go see Jeff Bridges and the Abiders play here in SF. On the woman front, the struggle continues. Shower, shave and over the bridge to the show. Night, good folks of eplaya.

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[Elliot]

*Elliot slinks into Bar, looks carefully around, then removes Zorro-type mask and black cotton gloves*

Hsssshhhhhhh folks. Be wevvy wevvy quiet. I think there is a thief in here.




5 HP, 220 V, 60 gallons, runs quietly and pumps up to 120 PSI. Bought it just a mile or so from my house...

...for $140.-.


*slinks out, grinning*

[robbidobbs]

IM gonna hide in here after drunk posting while armed w bullhorn.
I have issues, but minding somebody else's business isn't one of them.
I will surely get flogged though. I hope I enjoy it.
I only have an inch of wine left and I dare not mix w beer.
<she plops down on the dusty couch, looking dejected>
I know I pissed in somebody's cornflakes.