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Post by Rob the Wop » Thu Nov 18, 2004 6:02 pm

stuart wrote:
absinthe
I can get you absinthe on the playa for, well, free
One of the gift bottles I spoke of earlier just might be green too.
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Post by tonytohono » Thu Nov 18, 2004 6:04 pm

Sensei wrote:
tonytohono wrote:... I think we should still keep our own camp's identity. Even if it is next door to, or even a part of, another village. What are the thoughts on this people?
If you're going to lose your 'identity', I can't think of a finer group than Wheeee!ville to lose it to... Seriously, this makes a ton of sense to Sensei.
But I am not going to lose my personality... if it looks like it's going that route, I'm gonna hit the road. It's just not worth going to BRC to be a part of, what amounts to a city within a city.

I'll pull something else together that is more intimate. I would like to keep this relatively intimate myself, say less than 40 or 50 of us, hopefully of which we can have an idea as to who at least 50% of who is whom. I mean, how are we going to get 150 people plus our people on this totem pole. LOL! The totem on my arm is 12" long and there is nowhere near 190 characters on it. Hehe.

Anyway, I'm just making my opinion known. I'd like to give it a chance before we throw down with the first corporate offer that comes along.

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Post by sparkletarte » Thu Nov 18, 2004 6:05 pm

Well I was going to bring it, you know, to the bar, as part of my contribution. But if you want to get some free stuff to bring to the bar then go for it. I'm in. Although I'm leary of the homemade stuff, if that's what it is, because wormwood is a pretty strong herb.

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Post by gigglesnort » Thu Nov 18, 2004 6:07 pm

samtzu wrote:
gigglesnort wrote:
samtzu wrote:Avatars It would be nice to have an avatar board, too.... with your name and one, or more, of your avatars posted above it. It would be a nice decoration.
So, an idea I had for an art project was to make an avatar totem pole, with Tisha on top, of course, and little ole me way down on the bottom.....I'd need input with the rest of hte pecking order, though. (or do you think this would be too incendiary? :evil: )
That's it!!
That is absolutely perfect, Giggle! Let us all know what you need to do that and we can all contribute!

... well, except for body parts.... Woodrow is staying right where he is, thank you....
Golly! You liked my idea! Yay!

(perhaps Wilson would prefer a separate sock totem pole? My socks demand recognition)

Otherwise, I am clueless. So, any ideas, I s'pose, pecking order lists (public or private), what have you....

I'm really only an imaginary artist, btw, so dont' expect anything except some jolly rotten garbage out of me.

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Post by gigglesnort » Thu Nov 18, 2004 6:09 pm

theCryptofishist wrote:I got it: Groupies!!!!

A gaggle of airheads in short skirts (where are you Rob the Wop?) carrying pompoms and randomly attaching themselves to persons or departments or camps or art cars or dust devils and declaring them the next big thing. With much giggling.

Ooooh! giggling! Count me in.

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Post by gigglesnort » Thu Nov 18, 2004 6:11 pm

theCryptofishist wrote:
samtzu wrote:
theCryptofishist wrote:I got it: Groupies!!!!

A gaggle of airheads in short skirts (where are you Rob the Wop?) carrying pompoms and randomly attaching themselves to persons or departments or camps or art cars or dust devils and declaring them the next big thing. With much giggling.
That's a toughie... maybe later in the week when the yahoos start showing up... we should be able to cull a few out of that herd
I don't know sam. That's an awful abstract concept to explain to them.

BTW--I gotta go, can you keep an eye on the bar for a while? If any deliveries come just sign " Tony Blair" and the English pay for them.
Wait, I jumped the gun, didn't read down far enough, didn't include enough quotes:

YAHOOs and giggling, count me in!

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Post by gigglesnort » Thu Nov 18, 2004 6:14 pm

samtzu wrote:
regynalonglank wrote:i am actually a choreographer, and have experience working with large groups of non dancers. i would be happy to make you a camp dance, and teach it to whoever wants to learn!
That makes two choreographers that I know of... yeeeeowwie!! We're cookin' now!!!
Hey, I was on the drill team in high school, have my poms and uniforms (and still fit em, too :wink: )!

Teach me! Teach me!

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Post by gigglesnort » Thu Nov 18, 2004 6:21 pm

Zulegoona wrote:More stuff to consider;
E-playa being a part of and provided by the official Burning Man organization site an argument could be made for working in concert with the org. possibly in relation or proximity of the information center installation in center camp.

E-playa camp could also be a perfect place to base newbie indoctrination activities from. I can't remember who was spearheading that stuff or know if they would be interested but we're brainstorming here.

One of the positives things about trying to fit into that niche would be the possibility of being on the power grid. Potentially some funding to offset some of the expense. As a center point for the newbie indoctrination effort a close proximity to information where people can sign up to volunteer would be good. Last I heard they were only thinking about one or two special events of gathering newbies so it wouldn't necessarily take over the camp.

Another idea I had was "get a clue, give a clue" maybe a big MIXING bowl type of thing, with paper for veterans (jolly and disgruntled alike) to write their infinite wisdom upon to toss in the bowl; the poor clueless newbies can come and fish for their daily, hourly, minutely dose of much-needed direction....fortune cookie style, if you will......[/list]

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Post by samtzu » Thu Nov 18, 2004 6:25 pm

Giggle wrote
Another idea I had was "get a clue, give a clue" maybe a big MIXING bowl type of thing, with paper for veterans (jolly and disgruntled alike) to write their infinite wisdom upon to toss in the bowl; the poor clueless newbies can come and fish for their daily, hourly, minutely dose of much-needed direction....fortune cookie style, if you will......[/list]
Fuck!! That cracks me up!!! That's a great idea!! Work on it, Giggles, Darlin'... that will work perfectly for the bar...

And if you find any of my clues, let me know... I've been missing most of them lately... .
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Post by tisha2 » Thu Nov 18, 2004 7:08 pm

handful of thoughtsd to put on the table...

i *love* the bowl-o-clues idea!!! of course we can expect it to include a few faux clues intended to mislead the occaisonal poor, unsuspecting newbie..

i am uncomfortable with the idea of 'pecking order' incorporated into the totem pole. jus sayin'

i think i prefer the idea of building this thing up on our own...though i can't justify not throwing in with an existing eplaya camp... dunno. need to sit on that one a while. part of the whole community bm thing is about exploring one's own personality within a whole...

*tosses thoughts onto table like marbles.... a few spill off...*

oops - i'll get that...

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Post by gigglesnort » Thu Nov 18, 2004 7:12 pm

tisha2 wrote:i am uncomfortable with the idea of 'pecking order' incorporated into the totem pole. jus sayin'
Okay, so...... how else? O ~ a "circular" totem pole, maybe.....?

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Post by Rob the Wop » Thu Nov 18, 2004 7:15 pm

sparkletarte wrote:Well I was going to bring it, you know, to the bar, as part of my contribution. But if you want to get some free stuff to bring to the bar then go for it. I'm in. Although I'm leary of the homemade stuff, if that's what it is, because wormwood is a pretty strong herb.
Assuming for the moment that someone were to *gasp* use a still to properly make it, as long as this person used a 'true' recipe (like the 1855 Dick's Absynthe translated from a physician's desk reference), used the proper mash components (grapes or grain), double distilled it making sure to remove the slightly toxic 'head' and 'tail'- it would be safer than drinking commercial liquor (which generally contain the fusal 'oils' contained in the tail). The alpha-thujone content in the above 'Swiss' formula (the recipie is from the French, but the style is considered 'Swiss' from wormwood count) couldn't hurt you. If you drank enough, the alcohol would knock you out long before anything dangerous could happen (approx 180 proof).

Not that anything like that would appear at the Eplaya camp or anything.
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Post by tonytohono » Thu Nov 18, 2004 9:17 pm

tisha2 wrote:handful of thoughtsd to put on the table...

i am uncomfortable with the idea of 'pecking order' incorporated into the totem pole. jus sayin'
How about a totem lintel instead of a pole? =) Then all of you could be top row. I'm going to be thrown on my knees before it anyway, kissing some chicks feet so I don't need to actually be on it myself...
tisha2 wrote: i think i prefer the idea of building this thing up on our own...though i can't justify not throwing in with an existing eplaya camp... dunno. need to sit on that one a while. part of the whole community bm thing is about exploring one's own personality within a whole...
I think we are going to ride this one out and see how it plays out [thank you samtzu, your advice may save my ass many times over the coming months], but I think it would possibly be interesting to try it on our own. There is going to be a lot of intense sources of energy going on... I mean throw all of that into another lake of fire and it might get to be too much. We want this thing to be the ultimate in comfort... at least I do.

There are some great suggestions a couple of pages back we should keep in mind also...

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Post by tisha2 » Fri Nov 19, 2004 1:06 am

no, no...vertical totem sounds fine...jus sayin' that the assigning of pecking order seems weird - unless someone wants to volunteer to be on top...???

and, techno - why hast thou not dropped marbles on the table, eh?
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Post by DVD Burner » Fri Nov 19, 2004 1:45 am

Didi'nt read what was posted recent. Just posting now......what music will be there?

I can supply.....well Stuart can I'm sure also but we gotta have a system there.

I like Tool and perfect circle....twist....NIN.....with a twist of PC.


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Post by tonytohono » Fri Nov 19, 2004 7:31 am

tisha2 wrote:no, no...vertical totem sounds fine...jus sayin' that the assigning of pecking order seems weird - unless someone wants to volunteer to be on top...???

and, techno - why hast thou not dropped marbles on the table, eh?
How about this... the first person to show up can go on top... or if that ruffles any feathers, you guys can alternate who is on top. Or if someone is real creative they can make some kind of a mechanical totem where it automatically alternates. (lol)

Personally, it's moot in my opinion, although the totem is a great idea, I don't care where I am on it.

Like anything else, as long as I get some, I'm going to be happy.

We're in the brainstorming stage DVD, all ideas are welcome.

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Post by samtzu » Fri Nov 19, 2004 7:48 am

Tony wrote
Personally, it's moot in my opinion, although the totem is a great idea, I don't care where I am on it.
I wanna' be on the ass!!!
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Post by tonytohono » Fri Nov 19, 2004 7:51 am

samtzu wrote:Tony wrote
Personally, it's moot in my opinion, although the totem is a great idea, I don't care where I am on it.
I wanna' be on the ass!!!
!!! Like I was saying... !!!
tonytohono wrote: Like anything else, as long as I get some, I'm going to be happy.

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Post by Simply Joel » Fri Nov 19, 2004 8:01 am

tonytohono wrote:
tisha2 wrote:no, no...vertical totem sounds fine...jus sayin' that the assigning of pecking order seems weird - unless someone wants to volunteer to be on top...???

and, techno - why hast thou not dropped marbles on the table, eh?
How about this... the first person to show up can go on top... or if that ruffles any feathers, you guys can alternate who is on top. Or if someone is real creative they can make some kind of a mechanical totem where it automatically alternates. (lol)

Personally, it's moot in my opinion, although the totem is a great idea, I don't care where I am on it.

Like anything else, as long as I get some, I'm going to be happy.

We're in the brainstorming stage DVD, all ideas are welcome.
may i suggest something like 5 gallon plastic buckets for the totem pole, then you know they are all uniform and can be made separately before the event, and yet they will fit together because of their standard size.

or something of wood that is also standard size/dimensions.

just a thought. standardization can reduce costs.
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Post by GuinivereElise » Fri Nov 19, 2004 9:35 am

Simply Joel wrote:
tonytohono wrote:
tisha2 wrote:no, no...vertical totem sounds fine...jus sayin' that the assigning of pecking order seems weird - unless someone wants to volunteer to be on top...???

and, techno - why hast thou not dropped marbles on the table, eh?
How about this... the first person to show up can go on top... or if that ruffles any feathers, you guys can alternate who is on top. Or if someone is real creative they can make some kind of a mechanical totem where it automatically alternates. (lol)

Personally, it's moot in my opinion, although the totem is a great idea, I don't care where I am on it.

Like anything else, as long as I get some, I'm going to be happy.

We're in the brainstorming stage DVD, all ideas are welcome.
may i suggest something like 5 gallon plastic buckets for the totem pole, then you know they are all uniform and can be made separately before the event, and yet they will fit together because of their standard size.

or something of wood that is also standard size/dimensions.

just a thought. standardization can reduce costs.
The 5 gallon bucket idea would also help to conserve space; they can be nested together for the trip down, and then built into a totem end-to-end... make sense??


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Post by Rian Jackson » Fri Nov 19, 2004 9:54 am

tisha2 wrote: impromtu fixits
I could have sworn tisha2 wrote: impromtu fits
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Post by Rob the Wop » Fri Nov 19, 2004 10:18 am

GuinivereElise wrote:
Simply Joel wrote:
tonytohono wrote: How about this... the first person to show up can go on top... or if that ruffles any feathers, you guys can alternate who is on top. Or if someone is real creative they can make some kind of a mechanical totem where it automatically alternates. (lol)

Personally, it's moot in my opinion, although the totem is a great idea, I don't care where I am on it.

Like anything else, as long as I get some, I'm going to be happy.

We're in the brainstorming stage DVD, all ideas are welcome.
may i suggest something like 5 gallon plastic buckets for the totem pole, then you know they are all uniform and can be made separately before the event, and yet they will fit together because of their standard size.

or something of wood that is also standard size/dimensions.

just a thought. standardization can reduce costs.
The 5 gallon bucket idea would also help to conserve space; they can be nested together for the trip down, and then built into a totem end-to-end... make sense??


my $.02
Idea. You place a couple of poles upright with a crossbar between them. Drill small holes in the bottom of the buckets that a rope can barely fit through. Measure off the rope so that you can tie knots in it so that the buckets are evenly spaced. Tie one end to the cross bar and one end stake into the ground. This way the totem poles are as long as the crossbar height, are firmly anchored and cannot fall over, and they make cool noises when the wind hits them.
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Post by gigglesnort » Fri Nov 19, 2004 10:20 am

tonytohono wrote:
tisha2 wrote:no, no...vertical totem sounds fine...jus sayin' that the assigning of pecking order seems weird - unless someone wants to volunteer to be on top...???

and, techno - why hast thou not dropped marbles on the table, eh?
How about this... the first person to show up can go on top... or if that ruffles any feathers, you guys can alternate who is on top. Or if someone is real creative they can make some kind of a mechanical totem where it automatically alternates. (lol)

Personally, it's moot in my opinion, although the totem is a great idea, I don't care where I am on it.

Like anything else, as long as I get some, I'm going to be happy.

We're in the brainstorming stage DVD, all ideas are welcome.


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Post by stuart » Fri Nov 19, 2004 11:12 am

pecking order lists
I love the totem pole, hate the pecking order. Do it randomly or don't do it.


I also hate angry straight white boy music. Do you understand me?
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Post by gigglesnort » Fri Nov 19, 2004 11:15 am

stuart wrote:
pecking order lists
I love the totem pole, hate the pecking order. Do it randomly or don't do it.


I also hate angry straight white boy music. Do you understand me?
check on the pecking order list, I'm getting hte picture, thanks all for clueing me in.

[clueless] not so clear about the angry straight white boy music, except that I'm not really a fan of that either? [um, was that meant for me?]

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Post by stuart » Fri Nov 19, 2004 11:26 am

not for you dear
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Post by GuinivereElise » Fri Nov 19, 2004 11:26 am

stuart wrote:
I love the totem pole, hate the pecking order. Do it randomly or don't do it.
I second.

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Post by DVD Burner » Fri Nov 19, 2004 11:31 am

tonytohono wrote:
We're in the brainstorming stage DVD, all ideas are welcome.
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Post by sparkletarte » Fri Nov 19, 2004 11:35 am

I this may be low down on the pecking order (surely I'm not, and yet I third on the tossing of it), however:

Earlier I was wondering...
Speaking of tickets, does anyone have advice for getting them? I remember hearing people saying the cheapest ones sell out within hours. I'll be ordering on-line, or I could do it by phone if that's a better way.
Anyone?

(If I can't have control over buying a house, at least I can think I have control over buying tickets...I really just need something to control at this point.)

And Rob, you sound like you know what you are talking about with the green, so I'll go with your recs.

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