BM Assailant now in Custody.

Flackmaster · Post by **Flackmaster** » Tue Feb 01, 2005 2:11 pm

As of this morning the perp is in custody in Seattle. He can make bail and appear at the hearing in Lovelock Nev. on his own or be extradited.

Not really sure how I feel about it right now....stunned?....There is no particular joy or feeling of revenge, just some relief I guess. It has been a long nearly five month grind to make this happen which just meant I had to think about it every day.

I went back and forth a lot on how to handle this and I guess I wanted to send the message that 1) BM is not perfect and we don't need to be to survive 2) BM is not a place where you can do anything you want without fear of consequences

There's not much I can get back other than some money and will lean towards restitution over retribution at this point.

Not quite closure but much much closer.

Thanks for all your help, thoughts, notes etc.

Hope to see you all this year! Stop by Media Mecca and I'll show ya my scar and give you some free coffee!

Flackmaster <sigh> D

if anybody needs a recap...

http://www.hjnews.townnews.com/articles ... tory05.txt

www.blindtoaster.com/LeftElbow.htm

Badger · Post by **Badger** » Tue Feb 01, 2005 7:14 pm

There's not much I can get back other than some money and will lean towards restitution over retribution at this point.

A start.

Perhaps following through with what you feel needs to happen will end up resonating in a positive way. Maybe for the both of you. What the perp did was wrong. You can bring judgement against his actions and still remain detached for judging him.

Accountability is a dman good thing in my book.

Rob the Wop · Post by **Rob the Wop** » Tue Feb 01, 2005 7:34 pm

Quick $.02.

Before you assume jail time would be detrimental, think on this. Me and my friend Rich were best of friends from about 16 to about 23. Inseperable.

We did a lot of illegal type of things toghether. I got busted, my parents didn't put up a fight (refused to, in fact), and I went to jail at age 17 for 4 1/2 months. Rich got busted, his mother paid for the best legal counsel around, and got him off. On several occasions. Rich went on to have 4 DUIs and never spent a day in jail.

I spent 14 years taking the hard road, work during the day and community college at night. I also spent 6 years as a Navy SeaBee (reserve) out of a sense of owing something to society. I managed to squeek out a BS supplimented by an eletronic vocational degree. I had no desire to spend my life with my old schoolmates, in and out of jail for life. I knew jail was not for me.

Rich decided to leave high school without a diploma. He made OK money in sales, or whatever he happened to be doing. He could sell refridgerators to eskimos and he was a talented musician. Well, he recently filed for social security benefits based upon his Turet's syndrome (a mild case that never interupted his work or music). When he was denied, his mother spent tons of money on lawyers. It was overturned, and Rich got his benefits.

The result? I work in a Forbes top ten company. I do pretty good for myself, enjoy my work,I have enough toys to make me happy for years, and I will retire very nicely. Rich is living in HUD (low income) housing, doesn't work anymore, is an alcoholic, and spends his time alternately bitching about how life treated him unfairly or how much the government owes him in life.

Sometimes people just need a 'spanking'. Words can only do so much.

bullD · Post by **bullD** » Tue Feb 01, 2005 9:07 pm

Rob the Wop wrote:Quick $.02.
Sometimes people just need a 'spanking'. Words can only do so much.

that was the best sermon I have read in quite some time. So true. amen, brothers and sisters. and thank you rob.

bullD · Post by **bullD** » Tue Feb 01, 2005 9:09 pm

ohhh, and flackmaster, good on ya!

Rian Jackson · Post by **Rian Jackson** » Wed Feb 02, 2005 8:06 am

bullD wrote:
Rob the Wop wrote:Quick $.02.
Sometimes people just need a 'spanking'. Words can only do so much.
that was the best sermon I have read in quite some time. So true. amen, brothers and sisters. and thank you rob.

[musing]Rob as a priest, Rob as a priest. [/musing]

RUN FOR THE HILLS!

Rob the Wop · Post by **Rob the Wop** » Wed Feb 02, 2005 8:20 am

Rian Jackson wrote:
bullD wrote:
Rob the Wop wrote:Quick $.02.
Sometimes people just need a 'spanking'. Words can only do so much.
that was the best sermon I have read in quite some time. So true. amen, brothers and sisters. and thank you rob.
[musing]Rob as a priest, Rob as a priest. [/musing]

RUN FOR THE HILLS!

Why? Do you have anything to confess my daughter?

Make it juicy. There's a reason you can't see me in the other booth. I'M NAKED!

Rian Jackson · Post by **Rian Jackson** » Wed Feb 02, 2005 8:24 am

I confess that I'm going to steal your bean bag couch.

Um, say, wanna help me remove a wall to put it in the apartment?

Rob the Wop · Post by **Rob the Wop** » Wed Feb 02, 2005 8:28 am

Rian Jackson wrote:I confess that I'm going to steal your bean bag couch.

Um, say, wanna help me remove a wall to put it in the apartment?

Why do I get a mental image of you pressed against your car's front windshield, with nothing but black vinyl surrounding you? Kind of a reverse airbag?

"Must...shift...gears...crap...now...must...hit...blinkers..."

Rian Jackson · Post by **Rian Jackson** » Wed Feb 02, 2005 8:35 am

You should see me transporting 10' lengths of thick PVC in my little honda.

bullD · Post by **bullD** » Wed Feb 02, 2005 8:52 pm

Rian Jackson wrote:You should see me transporting 10' lengths of thick PVC in my little honda.

ohh the visuals. 10' lengths in a car that is how long?

anybody down for some auto jousting?

Rian Jackson · Post by **Rian Jackson** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 8:00 am

bullD wrote:
Rian Jackson wrote:You should see me transporting 10' lengths of thick PVC in my little honda.
ohh the visuals. 10' lengths in a car that is how long?

anybody down for some auto jousting?

Shorter. My methodology is as follows:

Wedge the PVC lengths diagonally from the from corners of the car back and up. They should pass out the rear side windows and fit between the front seats and the door. Attempt to fasten a seatbelt - I've learned that strapping them in with you is the better way to go - and get on out of town. It's pretty hard to get back in the car yourself, so it takes some monkeying. And you don't want to drive too fast because they catch a lot of wind.

It adds a lot to the height of the vehicle, but it's FAR better than laying them diagonally across the car both ways, because that adds a lot of width to the vehicle. My method, awkward as it is, adds none.

Oh, and bullD - envision an 87 civic. That should help your mental image.

Isotopia · Post by **Isotopia** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 8:54 am

This has gone WAY off-topic.

bullD · Post by **bullD** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 12:55 pm

Rian Jackson wrote:
bullD wrote:
Rian Jackson wrote:You should see me transporting 10' lengths of thick PVC in my little honda.
ohh the visuals. 10' lengths in a car that is how long?

anybody down for some auto jousting?
Shorter. My methodology is as follows:

Wedge the PVC lengths diagonally from the from corners of the car back and up. They should pass out the rear side windows and fit between the front seats and the door. Attempt to fasten a seatbelt - I've learned that strapping them in with you is the better way to go - and get on out of town. It's pretty hard to get back in the car yourself, so it takes some monkeying. And you don't want to drive too fast because they catch a lot of wind.

It adds a lot to the height of the vehicle, but it's FAR better than laying them diagonally across the car both ways, because that adds a lot of width to the vehicle. My method, awkward as it is, adds none.

Oh, and bullD - envision an 87 civic. That should help your mental image.

he he he, wings. Nice work.

What is the PVC for?

Sandwichman · Post by **Sandwichman** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 1:03 pm

bullD wrote:What is the PVC for?

For beating thread jackers.

In case the tone is tough to distinguish this is meant to be humorous and also a nod to the fact that this is going way off topic.

Rian Jackson · Post by **Rian Jackson** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 1:06 pm

Originally to build a shade structure. I never used it though, have quickly learned that what i got wasn't the best material to build what I needed.

I have no problem with the flights of fancy this particular thread has taken; I see no reason why Isotopia should state the obvious (really, the best work I've ever seen her do) nor why Sammich should be moaning about it. Besides, it would be dead otherwise.

Sandwichman · Post by **Sandwichman** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 1:10 pm

Rian Jackson wrote:
nor why Sammich should be moaning about it. Besides, it would be dead otherwise.

Because I am a bastard. Now go save your too trance husband from using anymore smileys.That was not all serious and I am just adding to the apparent thread jack at hand

Rian Jackson · Post by **Rian Jackson** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 1:13 pm

Sandwichman wrote:
Rian Jackson wrote:
nor why Sammich should be moaning about it. Besides, it would be dead otherwise.
Because I am a bastard. Now go save your too trance husband from using anymore smileys.That was not all serious and I am just adding to the apparent thread jack at hand

i take no responsibility for that trancer. can't do anything about him. sorry, babe. you're on your own.

bullD · Post by **bullD** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 1:19 pm

there is something so wrong with using the words "husband" and "trancer" in the same breath. But hey, this is a flight of fancy.

Sandwichman · Post by **Sandwichman** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 1:23 pm

Rian Jackson wrote:
Sandwichman wrote:
Rian Jackson wrote:
nor why Sammich should be moaning about it. Besides, it would be dead otherwise.
Because I am a bastard. Now go save your too trance husband from using anymore smileys.That was not all serious and I am just adding to the apparent thread jack at hand
i take no responsibility for that trancer. can't do anything about him. sorry, babe. you're on your own.

In that case we should embrace his state of trance and buy him a case of glowsticks and gross of vapo-rub.
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Rian Jackson · Post by **Rian Jackson** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 1:23 pm

bullD wrote:there is something so wrong with using the words "husband" and "trancer" in the same breath. But hey, this is a flight of fancy.

well, i'm about four inches from kicking some trancer ass. besides, the marriage wore off. and he's not usually trance. <blanch>

bullD · Post by **bullD** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 1:31 pm

Rian Jackson wrote:
bullD wrote:there is something so wrong with using the words "husband" and "trancer" in the same breath. But hey, this is a flight of fancy.

well, i'm about four inches from kicking some trancer ass. besides, the marriage wore off. and he's not usually trance. <blanch>

in true American fashion, "until death do us, eh hem, I mean until I am sick of your trancer ass."

Rian Jackson · Post by **Rian Jackson** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 1:42 pm

bullD wrote:
Rian Jackson wrote:
bullD wrote:there is something so wrong with using the words "husband" and "trancer" in the same breath. But hey, this is a flight of fancy.

well, i'm about four inches from kicking some trancer ass. besides, the marriage wore off. and he's not usually trance. <blanch>
in true American fashion, "until death do us, eh hem, I mean until I am sick of your trancer ass."

nah, it just expired. it was never made legal. ' twasn't meant to be.

you think i'd be running off and getting married??? *shudder*

bullD · Post by **bullD** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 1:52 pm

Rian Jackson wrote:
bullD wrote:
Rian Jackson wrote:
well, i'm about four inches from kicking some trancer ass. besides, the marriage wore off. and he's not usually trance. <blanch>
in true American fashion, "until death do us, eh hem, I mean until I am sick of your trancer ass."
nah, it just expired. it was never made legal. ' twasn't meant to be.

you think i'd be running off and getting married??? *shudder*

well, it would seem to conflict with your surliness. Yours truly almost made that, eh hem, mistake. Fortunately I smarted up and started asking the hard questions. Surprised the shit out of me, she was honest when I asked, have to give her credit for that, at least. Hmmmm, expiration dates, that's a good idea.

Rian Jackson · Post by **Rian Jackson** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 1:56 pm

if you never have the legal papers signed, there tends to be an expiration. really, it's more of a time limit in which it must be made legal; otherwise it becomes void.

which tough questions, if i can ask?

bullD · Post by **bullD** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 2:10 pm

yeah, no worries. But, I think all you need to know is that she is from France, a very talented actress, and had much to gain by making it legal. Her honesty was not cut-n-dry, I had to make inferences, and when one nails it, there are no stories or continued lies to to dig out of the proverbial hole.

bullD · Post by **bullD** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 2:12 pm

bullD wrote:yeah, no worries. But, I think all you need to know is that she is from France, a very talented actress, and had much to gain by making it legal. Her honesty was not cut-n-dry, I had to make inferences, and when one nails it, there are no stories or continued lies to to dig out of the proverbial hole.

oops,,,no stories or continued lies to to dig oneself out of the proverbial hole

diem · Post by **diem** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 2:12 pm

Rian Jackson wrote:
bullD wrote:there is something so wrong with using the words "husband" and "trancer" in the same breath. But hey, this is a flight of fancy.

well, i'm about four inches from kicking some trancer ass. besides, the marriage wore off. and he's not usually trance. <blanch>

I love that...."wore offf". Kinda like when youu get injured as a kid and your dad says "shake it off".

Rian Jackson · Post by **Rian Jackson** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 2:13 pm

I think we all have to decide, at some point, whether to marry (if we are to marry) for love or politics.

I have a growing number of friends and acquaintances from privileged backgrounds who plan to marry to get someone else a visa.

Rob the Wop · Post by **Rob the Wop** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 2:25 pm

And there is the #1 WRONG reason to get married (this coming from the knowledge of my Catholic upbringing).

because...I...need...to...get...laid!!!

The worst reason ever. Get a fucking hooker for fuck's sake. And ALWAYS 'sample the goods' before you make a lifetime commitment. Sexual compatibility is not always a learned trait.

For those that care, yes I know I'm going to hell. Best place for me really, life wasn't teaching me anything.