My question remains. Does the LLC listen to the participants' opinions on how Burning Man is run, what gets funded, etc, or do you have to be a part of the LLC for your opinion to be heard?KellY wrote:For Chrissakes you idiots, has ONE of you gone and actually looked at the 2004 Afterburn report? I mean, I didn't even bother looking 'cause it's obvious MP was just trying to stir up shit, but after people started acting as if there was a grain of truth to this ridiculous story I did look and guess what? Nada. Zip. No contributions to any political party whatsoever.
Duh!
Larry Harvey Contributed To GW Bush 2004 Election?
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Dude, the part about aliens is total bullshit. Back in '89 (when I was in the Marines) Secretary of Defense Dickhead "Darth" Cheney cancelled several military programs and used the funds to build a secret train to haul MX missiles around in the desert. You can even look it up.dragonfly Jafe wrote:LH (and friends) donated to the re-election fund so that they could use the secret DOD tunnel system and base that runs under the Playa (the one that used to hold the aliens before everyone got wise to them).
(ps- that's also why there is no digging allowed anymore...)
There were no aliens. Or, if there were, the trains ran them all over.
As to digging: a veteran of many burns told me that the reason we don't dig in the playa is because of the water table. Something like 6 feet down would spring the water table and the entire playa would flood before BRC could be abandoned. (I'm serious...he told me this.) And since a veteran Burner told me, it must be true!
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No no no, when you start a rumor that is a complete fabriction it has to ring of truth, even when there is none. Everybody knows that Larry Harvey eats naked babies, not sushi.theCryptofishist wrote:REally really really when I suggested spreading wild rumors I had envisioned decadent carribean vacations including eating fresh sushi off nakked babes by the accounting staff.
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BINGO!!!KellY wrote:For Chrissakes you idiots, has ONE of you gone and actually looked at the 2004 Afterburn report? I mean, I didn't even bother looking 'cause it's obvious MP was just trying to stir up shit, but after people started acting as if there was a grain of truth to this ridiculous story I did look and guess what? Nada. Zip. No contributions to any political party whatsoever.blyslv wrote:Regardless of the party, I'm distressed that the ORG has enough money to donate to campaigns at all. If they are generating so much surplus with our ticket money, it is clear that they don't need mine. It also makes me a lot less willing to buy a more expensive ticket, knowing that the surplus will go into political advocacy.
For some reason I thought my ticket money paid only for portapotties, BLM permits ect ect. Now that I see some of it is going to non-essential events, I think I just became a lot less willing to be part of BM anymore. It's becoming too much like the real world.
Duh!
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Now let's get to the bottom of the secret warehouse where danger ranger has a half acre sandbox filled with playa dust changed monthy rumor.
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"The powerful are exploiting people, art and ideas, and this leads to us plebes debating how to best ration ice.
Man, no wonder they always win....." Lonesomebri
"The powerful are exploiting people, art and ideas, and this leads to us plebes debating how to best ration ice.
Man, no wonder they always win....." Lonesomebri
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theCryptofishist wrote:Now let's get to the bottom of the secret warehouse where danger ranger has a half acre sandbox filled with playa dust changed monthy rumor.
Wow!!! Danger Ranger must really have to go sometimes! 2 square feet changed daily is enough for my cat...
The truth is that Danger Ranger is COLLECTING the Playa dust from all of the cars that leave BRC (carefully vaccuming it up from the road side and rest stops outside BRC after first determining which is native dust and which is foreign dust), then STORING it at his ranch until he can RETURN it the following year. Even if you consider the tires alone on cars, something like 30 cubic feet each year is LOST forever! (where are you BRR?). And one shudders to consider the epic volumes that are no doubt removed silently wrapped up in tarps and carpets (that is why these should always be burned on-site, to return the precious Playa) The fact that such a selfless crusade is occuring without it's due accolades is the REAL CRIME.
If you want to make Danger Ranger's job easier, put lawn & leaf bags around your car tires before entering BRC (use the contractor's type, they usually will last more than one season at BM). To really make an impact, wrap your entire vehicle in plastic before you arrive.
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But that doesn't take into account all the playa dust which is on your *body* when you leave, thence to be washed off and lost forever... Not to mention the "black boogers" tha accumulate in the nose, the BLM phlem you cough up, etc...
So add to that, don't just wrap your whole car, but your whole body, in plastic before you get there.
BBS
So add to that, don't just wrap your whole car, but your whole body, in plastic before you get there.
BBS
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Somewhere in the deep recesses of the internet, someone is dreaming of pliya serpents created from all that excess dust and how he could practice those Dukes of Hazzard style jumps off them with a Dodge Neon...since the new Chargers don't have enough power to launch with. Go Mopar!
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I completely agree.MoisturePup wrote:As am I Crypto.theCryptofishist wrote:Please don't drag me into this. I was being silly.
But you know what's not silly? The over $18,000 that the BMorg and staff gave to the GW Bush reelection campaign. It was shocking, it was wrong, and it's our money that financed that contribution.
I'm just as disturbed about these reports that Danger Ranger is collecting playa dust. What could he possibly be doing? Is it sinister?
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Maybe hes' going to set up a simultanious event that will only be open to burning elites and their paid minions. Or maybe he's gonna use it to desicate teh corpses of event foes who cross him too many times. (WSPR watch out!)MoisturePup wrote:I completely agree.MoisturePup wrote:As am I Crypto.theCryptofishist wrote:Please don't drag me into this. I was being silly.
But you know what's not silly? The over $18,000 that the BMorg and staff gave to the GW Bush reelection campaign. It was shocking, it was wrong, and it's our money that financed that contribution.
I'm just as disturbed about these reports that Danger Ranger is collecting playa dust. What could he possibly be doing? Is it sinister?
But I believe he's using it in a darwinian golf cart breeding project--trying to come up with a one that will stand up to the playa.
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"The powerful are exploiting people, art and ideas, and this leads to us plebes debating how to best ration ice.
Man, no wonder they always win....." Lonesomebri
"The powerful are exploiting people, art and ideas, and this leads to us plebes debating how to best ration ice.
Man, no wonder they always win....." Lonesomebri
Damn you Moisturepup.
It's a lie.
And here I was hoping that Air Force One would be flying over the playa, dispensing plastic turkey to all
With god as my witness, I thought plastic turkeys could....what? What do you mean I'm going on too much? The joke's stale? Which part?
Don't look at me like that.
If you're going to critique, them critique, don't glare at me when I ask what's wrong.
What? What do you mean everyone's looking at...oh
Thank you and we now return you to your regularly scheduled e-playa, already in progress.....
It's a lie.
And here I was hoping that Air Force One would be flying over the playa, dispensing plastic turkey to all
With god as my witness, I thought plastic turkeys could....what? What do you mean I'm going on too much? The joke's stale? Which part?
Don't look at me like that.
If you're going to critique, them critique, don't glare at me when I ask what's wrong.
What? What do you mean everyone's looking at...oh
Thank you and we now return you to your regularly scheduled e-playa, already in progress.....
"Life is like a box of razor blades. Sharp, shiny, and good for removing unwanted body hair"
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Oh come on, everyone knows that those plastic turkeys smoothly glide down the air currents. It's a combination of that orange juicer shape and the hot air in the middle that let's them come down easy.
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"The powerful are exploiting people, art and ideas, and this leads to us plebes debating how to best ration ice.
Man, no wonder they always win....." Lonesomebri
"The powerful are exploiting people, art and ideas, and this leads to us plebes debating how to best ration ice.
Man, no wonder they always win....." Lonesomebri
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Re: Larry Harvey Contributed To GW Bush 2004 Election?
FOR THE RECORD THIS IS A JOKE.MoisturePup wrote:I saw in the Burning Man financials that the BMorg LLC directly gave the cap of $2000 to the George W. Bush 2004 re-election campaign. In addition there was another $16,000 given to W by 8 of the board members, each giving a cap of $2000 each.
I think most burners would find this patently offensive. Is this where all that extra money is going?
(I had to post that since people on Tribe have started to refer to this thread as though it were not a joke.)
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Even if it was totally true what business is it of ours anyway? I'm a Democrat and I've donated to Republicans....I consider it an effective way to get my voice heard or to support an individual who bucks the party and puts local issues ahead of party ones. (It's also a shrewd business move in certain circles). I don't see what all the fuss is about either way.
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MoisturePup, you make me wish I had a space station so I could take you up to it and throw you in an air lock and eject you into space.MoisturePup wrote:BINGO!!!KellY wrote:For Chrissakes you idiots, has ONE of you gone and actually looked at the 2004 Afterburn report? I mean, I didn't even bother looking 'cause it's obvious MP was just trying to stir up shit, but after people started acting as if there was a grain of truth to this ridiculous story I did look and guess what? Nada. Zip. No contributions to any political party whatsoever.blyslv wrote:Regardless of the party, I'm distressed that the ORG has enough money to donate to campaigns at all. If they are generating so much surplus with our ticket money, it is clear that they don't need mine. It also makes me a lot less willing to buy a more expensive ticket, knowing that the surplus will go into political advocacy.
For some reason I thought my ticket money paid only for portapotties, BLM permits ect ect. Now that I see some of it is going to non-essential events, I think I just became a lot less willing to be part of BM anymore. It's becoming too much like the real world.
Duh!
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On occassion it's fun to remind people that just because somebody lists a source doesn't mean that source actually supports what they were saying. It is up to the reader to check before the believe it. That said...MrMullen wrote:
MoisturePup, you make me wish I had a space station so I could take you up to it and throw you in an air lock and eject you into space.
I read that Larry Harvey sold Burning Man to Pepsi last week and that the temple will be replaced with a new center stage for Britney Spears to make a video at the event this year, there will be a giant Pepsi billobard behind the stage. http://burningman.tribe.net/thread/9e72 ... c4b3f5fd6c
Then take an aspirin.HughMungus wrote:I'm just tired of hearing that "they" know what they're doing. Are we they or are just them they or are we AND them they which would actually make them us? My head hurts now.Badger wrote:It depends bro.Are we, the participants, supposed to participate in how Burning Man, the LLC, operates or are we not?
How fucking far down the rabbit hole do you wanna go????
Nothing ever seems what it seems like.....
Who are "we"? All participants on ePlaya, everybody who's ever been to BRC, what? How do you confirm claims of membership? Do we follow the one participant-one vote system, try to assign weights based on how many times one has attended, or do we just listen most closely to whoever is screaming the most loudly?
"Member of the Burning Man LLC" is a well-defined concept. "Burner" really isn't. A vaguely defined polling of a vaguely defined electorate doesn't sound like a recipe for good management to me.