Burning Man Vs. ?

Chai Guy · Post by **Chai Guy** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 11:24 am

I've decided that each week I'll conduct a "tale of the tape" and put Burning Man up to another event for a comparison study. This week it's Burning Man Vs. Disney Land. feel free to comment, or add your own comparisons.

Cosworth Magellan · Post by **Cosworth Magellan** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 11:26 am

If I do a comparison of Larry Harvey and Hitler, do standard usenet rules apply, or are we allowed to continue arguing?

:)

Chai Guy · Post by **Chai Guy** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 11:28 am

I think that since you asked first, we will forgo the usual usenet protocol in this case.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:54 pm

How are you counting number of people killed?

And when's euroburningman going to open, dammit.

dragonfly Jafe · Post by **dragonfly Jafe** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:58 pm

When have you ever seen Hitler wearing a hat? When have you ever seen Larry not? Case closed...

Chai Guy · Post by **Chai Guy** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:59 pm

Euroburningman? Pssshhhaaaawwww!!! I'm waiting for BurningJapan!

ZaphodBurner · Post by **ZaphodBurner** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:59 pm

Disneyland is MUCH, MUUUUCH cooler because the bathrooms are cleaner, you can get your name stitched on a hat, and if you sneak around back and look carefully you can sometimes almost see Snow White's ankles when she's changing clothes in the dressing room.

...at this point I should probably note that I haven't been there since I was 11. Everything I learned about perving out on cartoon characters in aprons, I learned from Disney.

-c
(One of our campers did a few tours as a musician for Disney's cruise lines. Says it's a BLAST going into the crew lounge off-shift and seeing the single Snow Whites, Dwarves, Goofies and other characters drunk off their asses and calculating who they're gonna hook up with that night. I hear Cindarella gets around. Oh, and Minnie and Mickey actually got some too...)

Chai Guy · Post by **Chai Guy** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 1:05 pm

It really is a small world after all!

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 3:20 pm

dragonfly Jafe wrote:When have you ever seen Hitler wearing a hat? When have you ever seen Larry not? Case closed...

Oh I'm waiting for the minion concordance. Is marian goebells or goering? and who's himler?

MissNev · Post by **MissNev** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 4:00 pm

I believe there has been more than 1 death at BM. Seems to me there was one in 1995 or 1996? when a dumbass on a motorcycle ran into a tent and killed someone, and then again 2 years ago with the art car incidient.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 4:08 pm

Apparently the tent guy is still alive and attending the event in a wheelchair, but I do remember the press accounting him dead. In 03 there was a plane crash that resulted in two or three deaths--although in the hospital in Reno, and a highway death on the road home. (Although I can see illiminating that as it would be really hard to figure out that stat for dismalland.) And there was at least one death this year. Although he was apparently declared dead in Gerlach. I've long had a private quarrell with the llc for saying that "no one's died on playa during the event" (this was before the 2002 event) as it seemed really hair-splitting. I'm just wondering what crteria Chai uses.

Chai Guy · Post by **Chai Guy** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 4:29 pm

I'm using the same criteria as the event.

can't sit still · Post by **can't sit still** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 4:39 pm

When have you ever seen Hitler wearing a hat? Is marian goebells or goering? and who's himler?[/quote]

Here's a history lesson that makes it all very simple.

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If World War Two had been an online Real Ttime Strategy game, the chat room traffic would have gone something like this.

*Hitler[AoE] has joined the game.*
*Eisenhower has joined the game.*
*paTTon has joined the game.*
*Churchill has joined the game.*
*benny-tow has joined the game.*
*T0J0 has joined the game.*
*Roosevelt has joined the game.*
*Stalin has joined the game.*
*deGaulle has joined the game.*
Roosevelt: hey sup
T0J0: y0
Stalin: hi
Churchill: hi
Hitler[AoE]: cool, i start with panzer tanks!
paTTon: lol more like panzy tanks
T0JO: lol
Roosevelt: o this fockin sucks i got a depression!
benny-tow: haha america sux
Stalin: hey hitler you dont fight me i dont fight u, cool?
Hitler[AoE]; sure whatever
Stalin: cool
deGaulle: **** Hitler rushed, some1 help
Hitler[AoE]: lol byebye frenchy
Roosevelt: i dont got **** to help, sry
Churchill: wtf the luftwaffle is attacking me
Roosevelt: get antiair guns
Churchill: i cant afford them
benny-tow: u n00bs know what team talk is?
paTTon: stfu
Roosevelt: o yah hit the navajo button guys
deGaulle: eisenhower ur worthless come help me quick
Eisenhower: i cant do **** til rosevelt gives me an army
paTTon: yah hurry the fock up
Churchill: d00d im gettin pounded
deGaulle: this is fockin weak u guys suck
*deGaulle has left the game.*
Roosevelt: im gonna attack the axis k?
benny-tow: with what? ur wheelchair?
benny-tow: lol did u mess up ur legs AND ur head?
Hitler[AoE]: ROFLMAO
T0J0: lol o no america im comin 4 u
Roosevelt: wtf! thats bullsh1t u fags im gunna kick ur asses
T0JO: not without ur harbors u wont! lol
Roosevelt: u little biotch ill get u
Hitler[AoE]: wtf
Hitler[AoE]: america hax, u had depression and now u got a huge fockin army
Hitler[AoE]: thats bullsh1t u hacker
Churchill: lol no more france for u hitler
Hitler[AoE]: tojo help me!
T0J0: wtf u want me to do, im on the other side of the world retard
Hitler[AoE]: fine ill clear you a path
Stalin: WTF u arsshoel! WE HAD A FoCKIN TRUCE
Hitler[AoE]: i changed my mind lol
benny-tow: haha
benny-tow: hey ur losing ur guys in africa im gonna need help in italy soon sum1
T0J0: o **** i cant help u i got my hands full
Hitler[AoE]: im 2 busy 2 help
Roosevelt: yah thats right ***** im comin for ya
Stalin: church help me
Churchill: like u helped me before? sure ill just sit here
Stalin: dont be an arss
Churchill: dont be a commie. oops too late
Eisenhower: LOL
benny-tow: hahahh oh sh1t help
Hitler: o man ur focked
paTTon: oh what now biotch
Roosevelt: whos the cripple now lol
*benny-tow has been eliminated.*
benny-tow: lame
Roosevelt: gj patton
paTTon: thnx
Hitler[AoE]: WTF eisenhower hax hes killing all my sh1t
Hitler[AoE]: quit u hacker so u dont ruin my record
Eisenhower: Nuts!
benny~tow: wtf that mean?
Eisenhower: meant to say nutsack lol finger slipped
paTTon: coming to get u hitler u paper hanging hun cocksocker
Stalin: rofl
T0J0: HAHAHHAA
Hitler[AoE]: u guys are fockin happy
Hitler[AoE]: ur never getting in my city
*Hitler[AoE] has been eliminated.*
benny~tow: OMG u noob you killed yourself
Eisenhower: ROFLOLOLOL
Stalin: OMG LMAO!
Hitler[AoE]: WTF i didnt click there, omg this game blows
*Hitler[AoE] has left the game*
paTTon: hahahhah
T0J0: WTF my teammates are n00bs
benny~tow: shut up noob
Roosevelt: haha wut a moron
paTTon: wtf am i gunna do now?
Eisenhower: yah me too
T0J0: why dont u attack me o thats right u dont got no ships lololol
Eisenhower: fock u
paTTon: lemme go thru ur base commie
Stalin: go to hell lol
paTTon: fock this sh1t im goin afk
Eisenhower: yah this is happy
*Roosevelt has left the game.*
Hitler[AoE]: wtf?
Eisenhower: sh1t now we need some1 to join
*tru_m4n has joined the game.*
tru_m4n: hi all
T0J0: hey
Stalin: sup
Churchill: hi
tru_m4n: OMG OMG OMG i got all his stuff!
tru_m4n: NUKES! HOLY **** I GOT NUKES
Stalin: d00d gimmie some plz
tru_m4n: no way i only got like a couple
Stalin: omg dont be happy gimmie nuculer secrets
T0J0: wtf is nukes?
T0J0: holy ****holy****hoyl****!
*T0J0 has been eliminated.*
*The Allied team has won the game!*
Eisenhower: awesome!
Churchill: gg noobs no re
T0J0: thats bull**** u fockin suck
*T0J0 has left the game.*
*Eisenhower has left the game.*
Stalin: next game im not going to be on ur team, u guys didnt help me for ****
Churchill: wutever, we didnt need ur help neway dumbarss
tru_m4n: l8r all
benny~tow: bye
Churchill: l8r
Stalin: fock u all
tru_m4n: shut up commie lol
*tru_m4n has left the game.*
benny~tow: lololol u commie
Churchill: ROFL
Churchill: bye commie
*Churchill has left the game.*
*benny~tow has left the game.*
Stalin: i hate u all fags
*Stalin has left the game.*
paTTon: lol no1 is left
paTTon: weeeee i got a jeep
*paTTon has been eliminated.*
paTTon: o sh1t!
*paTTon has left the game.*

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Cosworth Magellan · Post by **Cosworth Magellan** » Fri Sep 30, 2005 4:01 am

And when's euroburningman going to open, dammit.

http://www.euroburners.org

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Fri Sep 30, 2005 8:25 am

Chai Guy wrote:I'm using the same criteria as the event.

Okay then, I'll stipulate that Disney is as weasely...

EvilDustBooger · Post by **EvilDustBooger** » Fri Sep 30, 2005 8:59 am

theCryptofishist wrote: And there was at least one death this year.

I heard someone died of a stroke or something a couple of days after
he was treated for a head wound he received on the playa.
Anyone else know about this?

geekster · Post by **geekster** » Fri Sep 30, 2005 9:02 am

A little. A fellow from Reno got into a domestic dispute and got wacked with a frying pan by his wife. Later he died of a heart attack. He apparently had quite advanced heart disease.

Chai Guy · Post by **Chai Guy** » Fri Sep 30, 2005 10:16 am

Here are some links and information to the fatalities that have been associated with the Burning Man:

1996
Wired magazine labels Burning Man "the new American holiday," drawing a record 8,000 people. Rave camps appear with all-night thumping techno. Burning Man suffers its first fatality when a motorcyclist collides with a truck. Money management problems send Burning Man into debt.

*note that Burning Man did not consider this a fatality "at the event' because it occured outside the gate

http://www.factoidlabs.com/portfolio/wr ... times.html
http://afterburn.burningman.com/01/rangers/safety.html
http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/West/08/31/b ... .death.ap/
http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/ ... 58818.html

And Disneyland:
http://www.simpletoremember.com/vitals/ ... eyland.htm
http://www.anomalies-unlimited.com/Disn ... eaths.html
http://www.donnunn.com/spiel/2003/09/di ... _roll.html

helitack · Post by **helitack** » Fri Sep 30, 2005 10:22 am

Burning Man vs World Wresling Federation

Magikal · Post by **Magikal** » Fri Sep 30, 2005 10:38 am

can't sit still wrote:If World War Two had been an online Real Ttime Strategy game

Hly s**t, LMFAO!!!!!!!!!

Chai Guy · Post by **Chai Guy** » Fri Sep 30, 2005 1:12 pm

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Fri Sep 30, 2005 1:59 pm

Chai, that is disturbing. Really, really disturbing.

If I don't get to sleep tonight, it's your fault.

ZaphodBurner · Post by **ZaphodBurner** » Fri Sep 30, 2005 2:12 pm

Holy keeriiist. I think we may, in fact, have just seen everything.

So how about:

Larry Harvey vs. Walt Disney

falk · Post by **falk** » Fri Sep 30, 2005 6:43 pm

theCryptofishist wrote:In 03 there was a plane crash that resulted in two or three deaths

One dead, three injured.

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20030905X01475

There have been other injuries in plane crashes as well.

can't sit still · Post by **can't sit still** » Sun Oct 02, 2005 12:46 pm

Chai Guy, how about BM vs Vegas

Vegas[Bugsy] started on Lake Michigan,,,moved to the desert

Vegas is all about lights

Vegas has art instalations

Vegas is radical inclusion; if you brought money,,,you're included

radical self-reliance,,,,bring lotsa money

Vegas has moop--littered with bus. cards from call girls

How about it Chai? fill in the blanks.
Dan

Chai Guy · Post by **Chai Guy** » Sun Oct 02, 2005 2:27 pm

I've already got next week's in the can and should post it tomorrow. I like the Vegas idea though. Thanks!

can't sit still · Post by **can't sit still** » Sun Oct 02, 2005 5:21 pm

"ZaphodBurner"

So how about:

Larry Harvey vs. Walt Disney

Walt's been toast for years[or a popsicle] He's getting kinda boring. How about
Larry Harvey vs. Hugh heffner
" vs. Hunter S. Thompson
" vs. Uday Hussein
" vs. Tommy Smothers
Can't forget Douglas Adams
I better stop if I hope to preserve any shred of credibility.

Chai, how long do you spend to prepare a good interesting post?
I need 2 hrs for a good one. I worked an hour on one this morn ,,,,and then my modem got pissed at my wood stove and zapped the draft.
Dan

Chai Guy · Post by **Chai Guy** » Sun Oct 02, 2005 5:37 pm

The good ones usually just flow and I don't spend any time with them at all. The Burning Man Vs. Disneyland I had mostly in my head, but I spent about an hour researching some stuff. The next one took a lot longer, and required more reading, but I think it's pretty good too.

Mister Jellyfish Mister · Post by **Mister Jellyfish Mister** » Sun Oct 02, 2005 5:59 pm

Sidebar: I'm taking the family to Disneyland next month. Previously, I've had a hard time giving myself over to the event because the attitude of the people there was so awful. This time, I'm really going to try to give myself over to the event Burning Man style. You know, actually try to believe in "magic" and fully interact.

Any other thoughts on taking the burn to Mickey withouth letting the commercialism or materialism turn you off?

can't sit still · Post by **can't sit still** » Sun Oct 02, 2005 6:33 pm

Maybe if you ignore the cash outFLOW and just concentrate on the creativity of the tech people, you can squint your eyes and believe it all. Here's some nostalgia to get you started. http://www.justdisney.com/Features/tickets.html
Dan

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