Sexual Violence

Blenderhead · Post by **Blenderhead** » Tue Oct 07, 2003 3:32 pm

Bluebirdpoof wrote:
(besides, I have this lovely vision of this guy being followed by successions of pairs of the biggest, scariest rangers educating him in the error of his ways for the rest of the event. . .)

With bullhorns. Don't forget the bullhorns.

III · Post by **III** » Tue Oct 07, 2003 4:26 pm

> maybe a ranger can give us better idea

ooh ooh, me!

yer right on in that. after you're done dealing with the creep, wander over to ranger hq, and let them know:

(a) a description of the guy (physical attributes are worth more than outfit), and how he was behaving, and
(b) your name and how they can get a hold of you if they need more information.

there is a log book that incidents liike this are entered into (though sometimes sporadically, and back when i did that stuff it seemed to be kind of a black hole) so that after a couple of occurances they've got enough information (and contacts) to do something about it.

Flux · Post by **Flux** » Tue Oct 07, 2003 4:41 pm

III wrote:a description of the guy (physical attributes are worth more than outfit)

To get even more specific, some kinds of descriptions are better than others. For example:

Five-ten, shoulder-length brown hair, metal-frame glasses, blue eyes, earring in left ear

is useful. However, even more useful might be something like this:

Hunched over to about four-six, brown hair crudely hacked off to an inch in length, broken glasses held together by duct tape, two black eyes, and a gash in the left earlobe.

Can you see the subtle yet important distinction here?

Lydia Love · Post by **Lydia Love** » Tue Oct 07, 2003 4:45 pm

Flux wrote:
III wrote:a description of the guy (physical attributes are worth more than outfit)
To get even more specific, some kinds of descriptions are better than others. For example:

Five-ten, shoulder-length brown hair, metal-frame glasses, blue eyes, earring in left ear
is useful. However, even more useful might be something like this:

Hunched over to about four-six, brown hair crudely hacked off to an inch in length, broken glasses held together by duct tape, two black eyes, and a gash in the left earlobe.
Can you see the subtle yet important distinction here?

Oooh ooh! - don't forget "appears to be in considerable testicular pain". I'm sure that would help the rangers too!

angelface · Post by **angelface** » Tue Oct 07, 2003 5:23 pm

digital camera... pictures you can look at right away. No need to remember a description, and if the guy knew he had been photographed, he might be less likely to mess with people.

shitmouse · Post by **shitmouse** » Thu Oct 09, 2003 1:09 pm

thanks for the chimes. next time, and i hope there isn't one, i/we will be better prepared for this type of stuff. --(you know when something happens and you kinda lock-up and not think right on the pin, i think that's what happened. -- occupying this slug while the girl made her distance.)

we were so disposed of interacting with this super creep, that we didn't connect with making the right follow up. this year would have been different as we camped with a ranger and a fire member.
-b

BlueBirdPoof · Post by **BlueBirdPoof** » Thu Oct 09, 2003 2:50 pm

shitmouse wrote:thanks for the chimes. next time, and i hope there isn't one, i/we will be better prepared for this type of stuff. --(you know when something happens and you kinda lock-up and not think right on the pin, i think that's what happened. -- occupying this slug while the girl made her distance.)

we were so disposed of interacting with this super creep, that we didn't connect with making the right follow up. this year would have been different as we camped with a ranger and a fire member.
-b

After all you did prevent a vile crime. The only reason I might have done any better is because I'm with an Emergency Services/X-Ranger guy.

And the discussion has been good as a dry-run, think-things-through exercise for me in case I run into something sometime.

gabegirl · Post by **gabegirl** » Thu Oct 09, 2003 8:40 pm

Shitmouse wrote:
we were so disposed of interacting with this super creep, that we didn't connect with making the right follow up. this year would have been different as we camped with a ranger and a fire member.
-b

hindsight is always 20/20, right.. It's definitely hard to think straight about what to do when you witness some of this stuff.. you're just concentrating on stopping what's happening. You supported that girl and helped her get away safely, and let him know what he was doing wasn't okay, which was way more than anyone else did. Its really kind of strange how many people will notice something amiss and still not do anything. I remember seeing a 14 yr old girl being dragged, kicking and screaming, off the sidewalk in Montreal once. these two guys were trying to stuff her into a van. Her little street punk friends were trying to hold on to her, but these two guys were stronger. So my (female) friend and I jumped in, each of us got minorly roughed up, but the freaky thing is that this happened on a busy street with lots of big strong men, and none of them helped us out. Well one big guy was calling 911 on his cell, but the only people who jumped into the fray were myself, my friend, this 60 yr old lady who was yelling at the attacker, and this young skinny dude [u]on rollerblades[/u]. It was fucked. [/i]

shitmouse · Post by **shitmouse** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 3:33 pm

gabegirl,
be careful when intereacting with people in these kinds of interaction being a female. -(i don't mean this in a sexist way at all).

8 years ago my wife was involved in a violent attack and recieved a head injury that changed both of our lives. she came out of the bar we were at to put a coat away in the car.

upon her getting to the car, sue see's a guy ripping the car off, so she steps in and confronts him. he throws her to the ground, sue gets back up and confronts him again! --- he throws her to the ground again, only this time cracking the base of her skull in the back.

from that day forward, my wife had to exit her graduating year at the university of denver, and start years of intense therapy. she even had to work with a strategist to show her how to go to king soopers to get food shooping done without getting scrambled in the light and noise there that would make her fall down and convulse.

it's a tough line when to act on something, and best done with a partner. you did as i did to step in and confront the problems, and your a saint for doing so. just please be carefull when dealing with certain situations.
it's been a long 8 years and in the end, she could have been shot and killed.

hugs,-b

A new species of frog. · Post by **A new species of frog.** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 4:31 pm

The women in and near our camp had a nice time. Sorry to hear about all this.

PetsUntilEaten · Post by **PetsUntilEaten** » Sat Oct 11, 2003 1:08 am

Plutonium_shshsh wrote:The women in and near our camp had a nice time. . . . If you've fallen, perhaps the place you stood was slippery. . . . Stay on solid ground to avoid unwanted spills

just in case i'm taking this the wrong way - what exactly does this mean?

Rob the Wop · Post by **Rob the Wop** » Sat Oct 11, 2003 11:03 am

Plutonium_shshsh wrote:and learn to trust honest men. This has been happending for perhaps millions of years. Sad but true.

Dunno. I take this as be a sucker and implicitly trust everyone. Seems to me Mr.shshsh is a) a guy who b) never had a friend or sister raped. Not sure what magic detector he has that tells you who is honest. And for some mistaken reason, he believes rape hasn't been happening for millions of years. And here I thought it was more prevelant the farther back in history you go. My bad.

<i>Try to cut down on smoking patchouli, will ya?</i>

alice · Post by **alice** » Sat Oct 11, 2003 12:51 pm

"to trust is good; not to is better".

III · Post by **III** » Sat Oct 11, 2003 1:34 pm

so, to completely switch tracks on this thread, am i the only one here who likes my sex a little violent? cause that's what i thinnk about every time i see this thread title.

Lydia Love · Post by **Lydia Love** » Sat Oct 11, 2003 2:13 pm

am i the only one here who likes my sex a little violent?

No.

alice · Post by **alice** » Sat Oct 11, 2003 2:50 pm

violent sex is awesome!

jinx_sf_burner · Post by **jinx_sf_burner** » Sat Oct 11, 2003 3:11 pm

alice wrote:violent sex is awesome!

If I may amend... violent consensual sex can be awesome, if both parties are aware of the limits and boundries of the other person.... otherwise its just violence.

DE FACTO · Post by **DE FACTO** » Sat Oct 11, 2003 3:19 pm

jinx_sf_burner wrote:
alice wrote:violent sex is awesome!
If I may amend... violent consensual sex can be awesome, if both parties are aware of the limits and boundries of the other person.... otherwise its just violence.

with a blindfold is even better...well on me that is.

Don Muerto · Post by **Don Muerto** » Sat Oct 11, 2003 3:54 pm

jinx_sf_burner wrote:If I may amend... violent consensual sex can be awesome, if both parties are aware of the limits and boundries of the other person.... otherwise its just violence.

If its non-consensual then it's not sex.

alice · Post by **alice** » Sat Oct 11, 2003 3:57 pm

Don Muerto wrote:
jinx_sf_burner wrote:If I may amend... violent consensual sex can be awesome, if both parties are aware of the limits and boundries of the other person.... otherwise its just violence.
If its non-consensual then it's not sex.

dude, i love you!

Badger · Post by **Badger** » Sat Oct 11, 2003 7:48 pm

If I may amend... violent consensual sex can be awesome, if both parties are aware of the limits and boundries of the other person....

Remember, you should always have a 'safe' word or phrase-just in case things start getting out of control.

CAUTION: Mine's no longer "More, you limp-wristed pansy-ass twit!"

Lydia Love · Post by **Lydia Love** » Sat Oct 11, 2003 7:51 pm

Mine is "Jar Jar Binks".

Kills the mood THAT fast.

DE FACTO · Post by **DE FACTO** » Sat Oct 11, 2003 7:54 pm

Lydia Love wrote:Mine is "Jar Jar Binks".

Kills the mood THAT fast.

REALY then here.....

Badger · Post by **Badger** » Sat Oct 11, 2003 7:54 pm

Kills the mood THAT fast.

As I imagine "Gary Coleman" might.

DE FACTO · Post by **DE FACTO** » Sat Oct 11, 2003 7:57 pm

did'nt mean to be such a mood killer

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sat Oct 11, 2003 8:26 pm

III wrote:so, to completely switch tracks on this thread, am i the only one here who likes my sex a little violent? cause that's what i thinnk about every time i see this thread title.

Then you might want to start a new thread, as one who'd been a victim of sexual violence might be re-traumatized by the idea.

Tiahaar · Post by **Tiahaar** » Sat Oct 11, 2003 8:34 pm

Hey all you Jar Jar friends and family (actually I did kind of like him to a point) you've GOT to check out this link!!! I collect Tarzan and Jar Jar figures and found this on a recent search:

http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news0899/toy.html

(then there's the scandal about the wacking Tarzan figure...but that's another story)

DE FACTO · Post by **DE FACTO** » Sat Oct 11, 2003 8:41 pm

Tiahaar wrote: http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news0899/toy.html

touche

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sat Oct 11, 2003 8:49 pm

From the link posted above...

" saw her boy sucking on the sex tongue"

that is the best link ever.

Tiahaar · Post by **Tiahaar** » Sat Oct 11, 2003 8:51 pm

OHMYOHMYOHMY, what have I done...I do not need a reputation as an eplaya sex slut...but revisiting the above mentioned church site I went poking around...and either it is the most amazing spoof site I've ever stumbled across or Iowa should be VERY AFRAID!!! Either way I am going to split a gut laughing...this is really too much

http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news1100 ... ation.html

Sexual Violence

Re: fucking weirdos......

You did just fine

actually...

speaking of Jar Jar...

Re: speaking of Jar Jar...

God told me to hate you

they can't be serious