"The Bar" Playa Structure Building Discussion

Mozy bonz · Post by **Mozy bonz** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 10:48 am

You gonna park the truck out in long term parking

yes that sound great...

edit to get rid of the bold type

CLARKcon · Post by **CLARKcon** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 12:30 pm

(Just smiling, thinking about all the goodness of the proposed Bar Camp) Damn...if we're not just going to be the freshest, kindest, funniest, and best looking crew out there, then I don't know who else would be!

Seriousily, we are going to have to do an 8 hour shift night watch to keep the energy vampires away from trying to suck on all our magical and energetic sweetness...but then again, I think all of us combined have enough to go around! As far as building ideas, let's just let it do what it does. It will be great.
GO TEAM BAR CAMP!!!

Rockdad · Post by **Rockdad** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 12:36 pm

Yep I am excited too! Feel like I am pushing for numbers too hard though!
Patience Bob it will come together stop working it... gonna be the best funniest camp on the Playa! I can really feel some positive energy!

CLARKcon · Post by **CLARKcon** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 12:49 pm

As far as numbers go, Rockdad, I'd use the rule of thumb:
"It's better to have (fill in blank) and not need it, then to need (fill in the blank) and not have it."
In this case, our fill in the blank is "space". With Mozy's shade, some cars, etc., I'd do a reasonable shoot-over estimation for what we'll need. Also, this allows for more ideas in the coming months that require small/moderate amounts of space. If it comes up that there is say a 20 x 30 ft. patch that we didn't use/fill up, we can:
1).Give the patch to a nice, newcoming camp who shows up later in the week, or
2). Set up a motherf-ing "Crocodile Mile" (oh yeah, we all know the one...20 feet of slippery green plastic and a big inflatable Croc Head Pool at the end...except the pool will be filled with Jello-Vodka shots. Snap.

thisisthatwhichis · Post by **thisisthatwhichis** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:06 pm

yea, we better have that extra 20-30 ft.

Nice call Cc!

Lassen Forge · Post by **Lassen Forge** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 2:30 pm

Speaking from experience...

Last year we had moe space than we asked for, and it was kind of sparse, because we had not expected or designed for all the room we lucked out on.

Knowing what we know now, we have 2 contingency scenarios - a "smaller" space contingency, and a "larger" space contingency. Nice thing is, tho, we have a way to either expand or contract which will benefit the customers (those who drift into our venus flytrap, so to speak) either way, and utilize all the space in which we are granted.

I thinik - and this is just my own thoughts - you (OK, we) need to figure out how *small* a space we need for the bar, and then if we get more, how can it be best utilized... and for what purpose.

Remember, too... altho a lot of people (apparently) will be camping in the bar's vicinity, not all those who will participate in it... and if the allotted space is smaller than, say, outward expectations, we may need to limit how many people can camp there. After all - if we have a group of, say, 30 tents and vehicles to set up for it, and only space for 15 (conceivable) we need to figure out who can camp there, and who can attach themselves to other camps to free up space for those who (like robbi) will be essentially calling it their home base.

Also, don't forget the cleaning and evaporation pond. Even a minor installation like the bar will have water to evap off. And that's square footage that has to be taken into account.

Hugs, y'all...
bb

Rockdad · Post by **Rockdad** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 2:42 pm

Very good points Sue I had just sent the Mayor a email prior to seeing your post to see if we can get 50' frontage which would allow for the Mozy tent and Robbi's driveway.
I have also asked him if we need to set a max number of people and what the cutoff date would be from the AEZ point of view.
As to how deep I am counting on his expertise since he has been doing this a long time.
After reading your post I wish I had asked for more because I really asked for the minimum we need 43' bar plus 7' driveway..

Lassen Forge · Post by **Lassen Forge** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 2:54 pm

Will they let Robbi park in the AEZ? Better double check on that specifically...

bb

Rockdad · Post by **Rockdad** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 3:43 pm

Well I mentioned it to the Mayor...What ya think they would not like it? people idle car and trucks all the time for short periods to keep batteries fresh especially towards the end of the week..little frowns from the purist I suppose myself I have a solar battery charger.
Hope your not right! besides She would be just parking and leaving not like she is gonna leave it running there...

Lassen Forge · Post by **Lassen Forge** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 3:50 pm

Rockdad wrote:Well I mentioned it to the Mayor...What ya think they would not like it? ...

Naw... just making sure all the bases are covered. If they're OK with her coming and going...

Then again, I'm kinda the same way.

Just want to be upfront with them so they know what we have planned. I don't forecast a problem (well, my magic 8 ball doesn't, anyway) but I'd ather be safe than sorry...

bb

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 3:51 pm

If AEZ wants to get poofy about the potty goddess, they can take over her job.

We're damned honored to have her and AEZ should come by twice during the week to thank her.

Profusely.

Rockdad · Post by **Rockdad** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 6:35 pm

Good News we have the frontage...But the Mayor has some questions that he would appreciate answered I am going to post his reply over inthe backroom, Sue hit one of the questions on the head! But it all seems like resonable questions and concerns.
With a reminder that the AEZ is next to Hushville so we may have problems with generating to much noise especially at night...
I am still very positive about this but everyone needs to read the letter and discuss this either here or there...
I would also appreciate help from someone(glancing over at Sue) to help me compose a response to the Mayor..

Bar Camp 2006!

OregonRed · Post by **OregonRed** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 6:38 pm

Shit! Wrong thread. I really should read more closely.

Rockdad · Post by **Rockdad** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 6:40 pm

Red! how you doing ..You realize your not in the bar?

Lassen Forge · Post by **Lassen Forge** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 6:59 pm

Fishy - You totally ROCK!!! No wonder we all love you!
(and... I'm just sorry I was such a poofie headed bimbo back before, and hope you can forgive me someday... I was, and still feel like, a total shit. I'm hugely sorry... )

Rockdad - PM me about this. We can work up something...

And yeah, Red... Jeez... (Must've missed something)

bb

Lassen Forge · Post by **Lassen Forge** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 7:02 pm

Rockdad...

the backroom is closed to me.

bb

Desert Duck · Post by **Desert Duck** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 7:17 pm

Me, too. Who do I have to get drunk to get in the backroom of the bar? I got beers to drop off, and ice.

Rockdad · Post by **Rockdad** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 7:20 pm

Anyone wanting in send me a PM with email addy

CLARKcon · Post by **CLARKcon** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 1:03 pm

Rockdad, I was just over at Bar Camp Tribe...you posed some good questions, questions we all need to address in order to make the camp work...(thinking)...I'm still playing with some thoughts before I post...

Rockdad · Post by **Rockdad** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 1:15 pm

Bar Camp Back room link dragging link along with me..
Yep we need some input over there! If anyone needs in PM with email addy myself or anyone else that is already in...Back to my remodel project at home but I will check PM's on and off all day..

Bob

CLARKcon · Post by **CLARKcon** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 1:22 pm

Other PM'able people:

CLARKcon
sputnik
tisha2
Desert Duck
BB Sue
TITWI
LeChatNoir

Rockdad · Post by **Rockdad** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 3:45 pm

Tacking note on Bulletin board "check Mayor thread in Backroom" wandering back out... Sue wake up... Sue?

Lassen Forge · Post by **Lassen Forge** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 9:37 pm

>AHEM!!<

Sorry... was busy with other Kampstuff!!

>giggles<

bb

Rockdad · Post by **Rockdad** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 9:51 pm

Oh goody she is alive! want to get back to Mayor see note in back room I will be around off and on tonight...

thisisthatwhichis · Post by **thisisthatwhichis** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 10:04 pm

Hey Rock, left a note in the back room. It's what I am coming with. Keep me posted on how the space is.........

Lassen Forge · Post by **Lassen Forge** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 12:21 pm

Left a note and new subject in the storeroom, er, barback, er, back room.... (Whatever it is, it's there).

Alsoooooo... should think about nominations for Mayor for this year...

I have one certain fish in mind, tho I don't know if she'd want it or if she's going to BRC this year... but her bowl is always at the ePlaya bar... >grins<

OK, should move stuff like this back into the office, er, back room...

(Someone get the card table out...)

bb

CLARKcon · Post by **CLARKcon** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 12:38 pm

BB Sue, I second that notion...

Lassen Forge · Post by **Lassen Forge** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 1:28 pm

Maybe somebody ought to warn her what we're concocting... >giggles<

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 3:23 pm

Well, I have no leadership skills. That makes me perfect, huh?

sputnik · Post by **sputnik** » Tue Apr 04, 2006 8:40 am

A first draft of a camp map is up at http://ucomm.wayne.edu/~dan/BarCamp.htm

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