Why are you an atheist?
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'hell' can be interpreted as:Bay Bridge Sue wrote:Wait... something is ... hellishly... convoluted here!
How do you know there *is* a hell?
And wouldn't saying you feel there's an entity known as Hell make you a theist, as only a the would make such an entity?
A state of separation from God; exclusion from God's presence.
The abode of the dead, identified with the Hebrew Sheol and the Greek Hades; the underworld.
A situation or place of evil, misery, discord, or destruction: “War is hell”
Torment; anguish: went through hell on the job.
The powers of darkness and evil.
One that causes trouble, agony, or annoyance: The boss is hell when a job is poorly done.
A sharp scolding: gave the student hell for cheating.
Excitement, mischievousness, or high spirits: We did it for the sheer hell of it.
i opine that all the fundamental aspects of human existance are expressed through a myriad of embodiments...
question becomes: who's who?
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i'll personally vouch for the existence of threethe fire elf wrote:A situation or place of evil, misery, discord, or destruction: “War is hell”
The powers of darkness and evil.
Excitement, mischievousness, or high spirits: We did it for the sheer hell of it.]
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That is an incorrect question.HughMungus wrote: how can you justify a view of the omniverse based on believing that something does not exist?
There isn`t an omniverse, and you can`t prove there is .
I dare you to prove it.
You can`t even prove that you exist.
Go ahead. Give it a shot.
....And that $5 in your pocket will be rendered completely worthless if you remain a faithless fomenter of fo-lie a deux.
I didn`t just say that.
I wrote it.
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Nor can I disprove any of it.EvilDustBooger wrote:That is an incorrect question.HughMungus wrote: how can you justify a view of the omniverse based on believing that something does not exist?
There isn`t an omniverse, and you can`t prove there is .
I dare you to prove it.
You can`t even prove that you exist.
Go ahead. Give it a shot.
....And that $5 in your pocket will be rendered completely worthless if you remain a faithless fomenter of fo-lie a deux.
I didn`t just say that.
I wrote it.
So back on topic. If you can't disprove the existence of god, how can you have a belief system that includes that belief.
It's what you make it.
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One of the things that zealots do is to attempt to make you feel bad if you don't worship their god. The more liberal zealots attempt to make you feel bad if you don't worship a god that bears a passing resemblence to their god.
This attitude assumes that god wants to be worshipped. Why should an omnipotent and omniscient being desire worship? Fuck if I know, maybe it's just supposed to be good for us.
What is less often considered, however, is the possibility that god does NOT want to be worshipped, and finds it annoying as all hell. Maybe a god that truly wants us to be independent thinkers might be disappointed that we are not doing so.
So now imagine a punitive god that wants us to be independent. The worshippers get punished (possibly for all eternity) and the free thinkers get rewarded (no I don't want a virgin, I'll take that happy slut over there, thank you).
I refuse to believe in a large universe and a small god.
This attitude assumes that god wants to be worshipped. Why should an omnipotent and omniscient being desire worship? Fuck if I know, maybe it's just supposed to be good for us.
What is less often considered, however, is the possibility that god does NOT want to be worshipped, and finds it annoying as all hell. Maybe a god that truly wants us to be independent thinkers might be disappointed that we are not doing so.
So now imagine a punitive god that wants us to be independent. The worshippers get punished (possibly for all eternity) and the free thinkers get rewarded (no I don't want a virgin, I'll take that happy slut over there, thank you).
I refuse to believe in a large universe and a small god.
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Sorry but anytime I see, hear or read an opening line like that I usually - usually - associate it with someone ready to to fire up the inevitable Argument Machine(TM) in which no quarter is granted and all beliefs are defended.Any atheists out there want to offer a logical explanation?
Usually - usually - it results in the word 'nazi' ultimately being tossed out there into the electronic ether towards anyone who doesn't believe. I think I'll pass on that marlin hook of a question.
For the record I'll state that I don't believe because it relieves me of the feeling that someone else is in the dimly lit room is watching me with invisible glowing eyes while scratching notes in the 'bad' column of his little Naughty or Nice notepad while I jerk off.
Hope that answers your question.
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You have a very dim view of God (no pun intended, but I'll take that one). :DIsotopia wrote:Sorry but anytime I see, hear or read an opening line like that I usually - usually - associate it with someone ready to to fire up the inevitable Argument Machine(TM) in which no quarter is granted and all beliefs are defended.Any atheists out there want to offer a logical explanation?
Usually - usually - it results in the word 'nazi' ultimately being tossed out there into the electronic ether towards anyone who doesn't believe. I think I'll pass on that marlin hook of a question.
For the record I'll state that I don't believe because it relieves me of the feeling that someone else is in the dimly lit room is watching me with invisible glowing eyes while scratching notes in the 'bad' column of his little Naughty or Nice notepad while I jerk off.
Hope that answers your question.
It's what you make it.
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Why am I an athiest, you ask?
I no longer want to celebrate a so-called holiday where we put upon a pedestal a loving woman (although, MAYBE she may have been and I so honor that) BUT how many virgins do YOU fucking know that are able to give birth to such a super human person that he is ABOVE all of us all??? How may VIRGINS can fuck and bring forward a child that is a "Better Than Burnier Thou" APOSTLE????????? Maybe he DID have a good message, but no one wants to be put upon a cross as such a sacrificial lamb,.....it's all bullshit.... a fabrication of a fairy story tale.....
DO NOT EVEN GET ME STARTED.....
Virgins DO NOT give birth to "righteous above us all" beings.
I am sooooooooooooooooooo (maybe) going to hell for this, but WHATEVER!! I know where *I'm* going.....WHATEVER.....
(I'm radically self-expressing....cuz I can)
The bible is a product of what MAN (YES ------ MAN!!!!! Whatever!!!!!) in all his superstitions has brought to us. Through religious zealeats (sp??) who wanted to conform us into what THEY wanted us to be, and to what THEY want us to believe in....
I wish I could believe like the so-called faithful, but I cannot.
I will not believe in what BOOKS tell me to believe in.
Or what this government asks to tells me to believe in.
And BOTH are just as CORRUPT.
They are ALL a bunch of FRAUDS.
**I am soooooooooooooo going to hell, BUT GUESS WHAT, PEOPLE!!!!!
THERE IS NO HELL ---- THERE IS NO FUCKING HELL*******
The hell is what YOU make of THIS world....and the lessons you learn in THIS lifetime..... The aEarth is a school.... Get used to it..
Oh yeah...
Nighty night....
Peace & love...
XOXOXOXOX
I no longer want to celebrate a so-called holiday where we put upon a pedestal a loving woman (although, MAYBE she may have been and I so honor that) BUT how many virgins do YOU fucking know that are able to give birth to such a super human person that he is ABOVE all of us all??? How may VIRGINS can fuck and bring forward a child that is a "Better Than Burnier Thou" APOSTLE????????? Maybe he DID have a good message, but no one wants to be put upon a cross as such a sacrificial lamb,.....it's all bullshit.... a fabrication of a fairy story tale.....
DO NOT EVEN GET ME STARTED.....
Virgins DO NOT give birth to "righteous above us all" beings.
I am sooooooooooooooooooo (maybe) going to hell for this, but WHATEVER!! I know where *I'm* going.....WHATEVER.....
(I'm radically self-expressing....cuz I can)
The bible is a product of what MAN (YES ------ MAN!!!!! Whatever!!!!!) in all his superstitions has brought to us. Through religious zealeats (sp??) who wanted to conform us into what THEY wanted us to be, and to what THEY want us to believe in....
I wish I could believe like the so-called faithful, but I cannot.
I will not believe in what BOOKS tell me to believe in.
Or what this government asks to tells me to believe in.
And BOTH are just as CORRUPT.
They are ALL a bunch of FRAUDS.
**I am soooooooooooooo going to hell, BUT GUESS WHAT, PEOPLE!!!!!
THERE IS NO HELL ---- THERE IS NO FUCKING HELL*******
The hell is what YOU make of THIS world....and the lessons you learn in THIS lifetime..... The aEarth is a school.... Get used to it..
Oh yeah...
Nighty night....
Peace & love...
XOXOXOXOX
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I went to hell once...it sucked...really fucked up.
Apparently there are several different ways to get there.
This thread contains a portal, I believe.
For those interested in visiting hell while in Europe...
...here are a few popular British entrances to hell...
http://www.entrances2hell.co.uk/
Apparently there are several different ways to get there.
This thread contains a portal, I believe.
For those interested in visiting hell while in Europe...
...here are a few popular British entrances to hell...
http://www.entrances2hell.co.uk/
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