The Bar

Box Burner · Post by **Box Burner** » Sun May 21, 2006 12:56 pm

I worked in nuke plants for about 8 years. So it was interesting to see the videos if that tower coming down. Thanks.

Box Burner · Post by **Box Burner** » Sun May 21, 2006 1:15 pm

EspressoDude wrote:
Box Burner wrote:Hey ESD did you go to see it?
No..like I said, I was turning on my espresso machine......

Actually "they" closed all roads and river traffic for 5 miles......probably not for safety, but to avoid a "spectacle of massive proportions" like tra-fuck jams.

2 years to build,, 8 seconds to destroy

And even more stupid, in 5 - 10 years we are going to have to build more nuke plants..........

Have you seen movie"China Syndrome"? The control room is a replica of the one @Trojan........but then, so is the one on "The Simpsons"..I guess if Homer Simpson ran it, it is no wonder it neeeded to come down..

Homer Simpson is quite popular with Radition Health Physics techs and Reactor Operators.

There is a better way than building more power plants though. Both Nuclear and fossil fuel plants. For about the price of a new car a house can be fitted with windmils and solar cells/batteries. This would eliminat the need for centralized power plants. Of course big money and big govenment (who are always in bed together) will never let that happen.

(steps down off of soapbox)

Rabbi Dali Rick · Post by **Rabbi Dali Rick** » Sun May 21, 2006 1:17 pm

Hi all, just now checking in going back and see what I missed since Fri...

Broadcasting live from Red Rock City, sucking down a somewhat cold Sam Adams Boston Lager. who's here? Who's pouring Who's buying?

I'm at page 1898 of the thread....

the rebbi

EspressoDude · Post by **EspressoDude** » Sun May 21, 2006 1:55 pm

solar is good.......butt, big butt....when we need the energy, it is overcast, so low output. Also take a HUGE amount of energy to grow the crystals for the panels, plus the nasty nasty chemicals.......AND then there is the battery banks, lead, acid, or other horrible shit..

ok....enuff negative, now positive...we have solar at EspressoCamp for day fans, and night blacklight in our dome.

and if an inverter...AC/DC...?

joel the ornery · Post by **joel the ornery** » Sun May 21, 2006 2:12 pm

helitack wrote:Rediscovering Hemingway these days:

“If people bring so much courage to this world the world has to kill them to break them, so of course it kills them. The world breaks every one and afterward many are strong at the broken places. But those that will not break it kills. It kills the very good, and the very gentle, and the very brave impartially. If you are none of these you can be sure it will kill you too, but there will be no special hurry.”

“I know the night is not the same as the day: that all things are different, that the things of the night cannot be explained in the day, because they do not then exist, and the night can be a dreadful time for lonely people once their loneliness has started.”

Every man's life ends the same way. It is only the details of how he lived and how he died that distinguish one man from another.”

Fucking Wow

I'll have a whiskey

whiskey? sounds like a plan.
can i borrow that book when you are finished?

Box Burner · Post by **Box Burner** » Sun May 21, 2006 2:17 pm

You are right. I do not know enough about solar cell technology to know how viable it is. But if the cells, once made, can be used forever, allowing for normal maintenance, wouldn't that be a good thing?. Windmills seem simple enough and really anyone cold make one.

stargeezer · Post by **stargeezer** » Sun May 21, 2006 2:40 pm

With the solar and wind it is a great idea, but as stated above, lots of issues. My home is partially solar powered, I collect heat and store it in water, but in my environment, going totally off grid is very difficult unless you consider a personal generator off grid. In my opinion, personal generators still use fossil fuels and the exhaust is worse than a normal power plant, os I do not consider that a viable option.

I believe wave generation should be the source of our power development. With all the power in the ocean, use waves to generate electricty for housing, and also to break the hydrogen and oxygen apart for hydrogen powered vehicles. It would be a much cleaner place to live, but the oil companies won't let it happen until that last well runs dry.

Box Burner · Post by **Box Burner** » Sun May 21, 2006 2:57 pm

Well, I agree and wave generation is a good idea. But on a large scale you run into big money. You are just changing one master for another. The idea is to be self sufficient. Then you will not be under the thumb of big money. The U.S. was stongest when it was a nation of individuals taking care of their own needs.

stargeezer · Post by **stargeezer** » Sun May 21, 2006 3:42 pm

Oh boy, this is my kind of discussion!! I am having much fun during the drywall breaks!!

Points well taken, but I will trade a non-polluting master for a polluting master any day.

FYI, if you are thinking about solar electric or wind generation, do not ignore the grid. Most states now have co-generation laws in place so small users can put power back on the grid and run their meter backwards. If you provide more power than you use, you actually are required to get paid for it. Other than protecting against total power failures, this is a great option as you use the grid for your batteries, and eliminate that storage maintenance problem in addition to not having to deal with the toxic crap.

thisisthatwhichis · Post by **thisisthatwhichis** » Sun May 21, 2006 5:56 pm

What a great fucking weekend!.......

How do we go from Hemmingway to Particle Physics?

It's the Bar, i guess.... had to double check though....

I'm up for a couple o shots.... Any takers?

stargeezer · Post by **stargeezer** » Sun May 21, 2006 6:09 pm

What is the matter, you don't like a brief technical discussion?

thisisthatwhichis · Post by **thisisthatwhichis** » Sun May 21, 2006 6:17 pm

I'm thinkin, now we can have a technical dicsussion......

stargeezer · Post by **stargeezer** » Sun May 21, 2006 6:18 pm

I certainly do appreciate those solar collectors.

EspressoDude · Post by **EspressoDude** » Sun May 21, 2006 6:19 pm

How about some ultra-high-test Nuclear Grade Espresso?

keep you energized for hours and glowing into the night

That certainly is HI-TECH TITwi

EspressoDude · Post by **EspressoDude** » Sun May 21, 2006 6:21 pm

complete parabolic e-lips-oid shaped magnetic energizer units.

sun look like about 2.638 hours from sunset by the angle of the shadow

stargeezer · Post by **stargeezer** » Sun May 21, 2006 6:22 pm

Forget about glowing in the dark, that looks like high enough octane to get you to the moon and back.

EspressoDude · Post by **EspressoDude** » Sun May 21, 2006 6:24 pm

as long as it is the moon that goes with those solar collectors

stargeezer · Post by **stargeezer** » Sun May 21, 2006 6:25 pm

I hope it does not send you circling around Uranus.

EspressoDude · Post by **EspressoDude** » Sun May 21, 2006 6:26 pm

like this one

stargeezer · Post by **stargeezer** » Sun May 21, 2006 6:27 pm

I like the motorcycle, but I really like the rider.

stargeezer · Post by **stargeezer** » Sun May 21, 2006 6:31 pm

Since the technical discussion did not go over too well, and since this appears to be a pretty open-minded forum, I will try a little technical humor.

Three engineers were sitting at the bar having drinks and discussing some pretty technical projects. The bar was very quiet and the bartender could not help but overhear this boring conversation. They ordered another round and when the bartender delivered them he decided to have some fun.

Bartender: Say guys, I was wondering if you could answer a question for me, if God were an engineer, just what kind of engineer would he be?

First eng: He would have to be an electrical engineer. Just look at the brain, such a massive computer that controls all the bodily functions 24/7.

Second eng: No, he would have to be a mechanical engineer. Just look at the hand, all those moving parts working smoothly together, handling both heavy and delicate tasks.

Third eng: You are both wrong, he would have to be a civil engineer. Who else would put a toxic waste dump right in the middle of a play area.

thisisthatwhichis · Post by **thisisthatwhichis** » Sun May 21, 2006 6:37 pm

Yea, ESD, that looks like it'll pass.... Technically speaking of course

Rockdad · Post by **Rockdad** » Sun May 21, 2006 7:10 pm

Where is everyone? leaps over Bar in single bound and pours pint of Ale

EspressoDude · Post by **EspressoDude** » Sun May 21, 2006 7:18 pm

Hi RockDad,...oops RockGRANDAD.....
been putzing around doin odds and ends...

got some of that imperial stout Ale that I picked up yesterday in the fridge...

pour u one ?

Rockdad · Post by **Rockdad** » Sun May 21, 2006 7:21 pm

Hey ED sure sounds good!

EspressoDude · Post by **EspressoDude** » Sun May 21, 2006 7:25 pm

haven't sampled the stout yet, but the "danger ale" is real good.

lets pop the caps on a few..as long as Jewel***hasn't shaken them!!!!!
gotta see if they are good enough to bring to BM for drinking..

Zulegoona · Post by **Zulegoona** » Sun May 21, 2006 7:27 pm

Hey RockGrandDad, guys, I’ll take an Ale, a Ginger Ale,...

EspressoDude · Post by **EspressoDude** » Sun May 21, 2006 7:29 pm

hello Z,...Ginger and spice and everything nice.....what girls are made of...

There might be some around lurking..

Rockdad · Post by **Rockdad** » Sun May 21, 2006 7:30 pm

Zulegoona wrote:Hey RockGrandDad, guys, I’ll take an Ale, a Ginger Ale,...

Damn still getting used to that!

Zulegoona · Post by **Zulegoona** » Sun May 21, 2006 7:31 pm

So does this RockBabyBoy have a name?

The Bar

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