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Post by DVD Burner » Thu Feb 01, 2007 10:24 pm

spectabillis wrote:lets try and bring this back into a case study thing then.


sure, i can understand what you are saying. the problem is when those mistakes are repeated. for some people it doesnt change where its proven time and again.


just my point exactly.

it is why I bring up the point in soooo many different ways time and time again.


do you get my point yet?

I've posted solutions to many problems and present how the problems can arise in soooo many ways.

what do I have to do in so many ways for me to make
my point once.......or even less than twice?

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Post by DVD Burner » Thu Feb 01, 2007 10:26 pm

spectabillis wrote: only drawback is if its a group of people who are more concerned about the revenge factor than they are in any tangible issue. besides myself, i can list a dozen people off the top of my head who would have loved to enact revenge against emily, technopatra, actiongrl.

but if people want to do it for me....
i'm not one of them.

ask Techno.

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Post by DVD Burner » Thu Feb 01, 2007 10:29 pm

There is just too many of these for me to answer.

this is not efficient.


this is my point.



this is my point,

Lets just concentrate on the fact of the matter.

Eplaya needs some fixin.

who is up for it?


Serious technical fixin.

This chasin the bot aint workin.

dont focus on me, just fix the bot. Dont bandaid it.

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Post by spectabillis » Fri Feb 02, 2007 12:00 pm

DVD Burner wrote:I always follow the rules. Best as i can anyways.
no, you dont. but if you think its going to be debated with you again, and again... its not.

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Post by DVD Burner » Fri Feb 02, 2007 12:01 pm

spectabillis wrote:
DVD Burner wrote:I always follow the rules. Best as i can anyways.
no, you dont. but if you think its going to be debated with you again, and again... its not.
Thanks.

That saves both our time.

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Post by SED » Fri Feb 02, 2007 1:21 pm

spectabillis wrote:
DVD Burner wrote:I always follow the rules. Best as i can anyways.
no, you dont. but if you think its going to be debated with you again, and again... its not.

See, there ya go Spec. You can't just ignore the Vile One. You have to be snotty. That's why you're a case study in lousy moderating. What makes you think you're so superior?
It ain't the hanging, it's the drop.

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Post by Archantael » Fri Feb 02, 2007 3:42 pm

Once guilty, forever guilty, with no shot of redemption whatsoever. It's the same mindset I've been fighting for years on here. DVD at one time had his issues...but if you look at what he's posted for the past year....he does not deserve the attitude being displayed.

I can't help but think it's total bullshit, and I don't care if anyone has issues with that or not. He's got the skills needed, he's offered to volunteer, and it's only through closed minded stupidity, personal cliquishness, and a flat out stubborness to change that is a core reason why this board has taken the express train straight to hell.

I'm wondering if all the animosity being directed against DVD is really being orchestrated by certain 3Playans...after all SB seems to hang out there more than he does here...even when he was an active moderator. IMHO now he was never fair and impartial from the get-go but people gave him the benefit of the doubt. That was a big fucking mistake.

In any event while the bickering continues the board continues to suffer, the sense of community that BM tries to foster in it's 10 principles is nothing more than a line of verbal bullshit when applied to the board, and with posts like the one above showing that no reconciliation will ever be possible, nothing's going to change. So it comes down to letting the inmates run the asylum, the Russian spammers control the board, and the rest who actually cared are forced to wonder what could have been. And it's all a damn shame. A real shame.

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Post by spectabillis » Fri Feb 02, 2007 4:11 pm

first, its been shown continually for over a year now that people cant keep the personal stuff out of it. thats not conjecture, go ahead and read over the past discussions in policy and other feedback areas. this happened despite pointing it out many times. but that repetition is normal when people have personal grudges to push and the most recent example is here - sed still trying to make an issue of moderation when i'm obviously not a moderator.

second, there still has not been an answer to the problem of second chances vs. multiple ones. dvd was given more than one, several in fact, and yet the same thing happened each time. you cant reasonably expect people to keep sticking it out when that happens.

third, its not a one person or multiple person agenda. no one, and i mean not-a-single-person wants to work with him and those problems were a big part of why this board is in its present state because people walked rather than have to deal with them. it seems being a volunteer instead of a paid employee limits the ammount of passion and dedication many people have. from first hand knowledge i can tell you i used to put up with a lot of shit and was told by most others they would never do that.

so i dont think you cant have someone with serious interpersonal issues on board like that here, no one wants to work with him and i have been told this explicitly. i went to bat for dvd a few times only to have him go off in his usual psychotic way, after that i had my credibility blown and many people didnt trust my judgement anymore over it. at this point he really needs to step up to personal responsibility and change his ways before someone new is going to take him seriously.

and good luck on whoever that is, not my decision. you can take it up with the powers that be, again, but i am sure you understand just where thats going to get you. you are honestly not going to find anyone as accomodating as i was over it.

so can you please put it aside now? this issue has been around for two years and i dont see it changing even if you choose someone else to wrongly target for blame.

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Post by DVD Burner » Fri Feb 02, 2007 4:19 pm

:roll:

Excuses.

Maybe the truth is, things cant get done because certain indivisuals dont know how to do it.

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Post by spectabillis » Fri Feb 02, 2007 4:41 pm

and thanks for once again proving my points.

good thing its not my problem anymore, and good thing this is the last time i ever comment on it.

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Post by DVD Burner » Fri Feb 02, 2007 5:50 pm

Thank the lucy stars! :?

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Post by Archantael » Fri Feb 02, 2007 5:53 pm

I've got more dead horses to whip elsewhere and other battles to fight so I'm going to call it a day on this one.

Getting back on topic I just got a PM spam from someone named Emile_Jensen....it has a link to a questionable website. Did anyone else get a PM from her?

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