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Bin Noddin · Post by **Bin Noddin** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 10:46 am

All fuckin' day long:
http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic. ... 734#299734
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Toolmaker · Post by **Toolmaker** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 7:20 am

commerce links in post

http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic.php?t=16766

Toolmaker · Post by **Toolmaker** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 2:31 pm

http://eplaya.burningman.org/profile.ph ... le&u=23385

commerce link at bottom of first post trying to sell diamond rings.. possibly in signature line of profile.

Archantael · Post by **Archantael** » Sun Feb 25, 2007 8:25 am

Dating service & drugs:
http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic.php?t=16775

Edit:
Electronics and X-Boxes
http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic. ... 105#300105

Toolmaker · Post by **Toolmaker** » Sun Feb 25, 2007 11:32 am

Archantael wrote:Dating service & drugs:
http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic.php?t=16775

Edit:
Electronics and X-Boxes
http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic. ... 105#300105

DAMMIT I missed the dating service, its already been nuked!

Post by **AntiM** » Sun Feb 25, 2007 12:13 pm

Buwahaha, I conspire to make lonely tool.

Bin Noddin · Post by **Bin Noddin** » Sun Feb 25, 2007 10:39 pm

The pharmacy is open:
http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic. ... 181#300181

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Toolmaker · Post by **Toolmaker** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 9:20 am

chris5 is back selling engagement rings..

http://eplaya.burningman.org/posting.ph ... e&p=299879

We need to upgrade AntiMs powers and the ORG should also gift her and larrys tickets this year for all the work done on eplaya.

Lassen Forge · Post by **Lassen Forge** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 9:46 am

Note to toolmaker -

Don't post as a quote as it's extra layers to distill it back to its original post. Then it can (and shall) be dealt with.

The Shadow...

Post by **AntiM** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 10:02 am

Toolmaker wrote:chris5 is back selling engagement rings..

http://eplaya.burningman.org/posting.ph ... e&p=299879

We need to upgrade AntiMs powers and the ORG should also gift her and larrys tickets this year for all the work done on eplaya.

Being dealt with. Really.

Toolmaker · Post by **Toolmaker** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 2:59 pm

AntiM wrote:
Toolmaker wrote:chris5 is back selling engagement rings..

http://eplaya.burningman.org/posting.ph ... e&p=299879

We need to upgrade AntiMs powers and the ORG should also gift her and larrys tickets this year for all the work done on eplaya.
Being dealt with. Really.

Which is, your well deserved free tickets, your upgrade, or the diamond ring seller?

Post by **AntiM** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 5:03 pm

That would be crushing the seller. My powers include Far Distance Sight into Showers, so beware. The free tickets are on the fridge, along with the $975 fireball.

Bin Noddin · Post by **Bin Noddin** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 7:58 pm

yawwwwn:
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Bin Noddin · Post by **Bin Noddin** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 8:27 pm

get rich QUICK-QUICK-QUICK:
http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic. ... 866#300866
and
http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic. ... 920#300920

Archantael · Post by **Archantael** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 8:50 pm

Well, how about that? At least the spammer posted a perfect example of why he should be deleted right in the case studies thread!

Blackbird · Post by **Blackbird** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 11:16 pm

Archantael wrote:Well, how about that? At least the spammer posted a perfect example of why he should be deleted right in the case studies thread!

Maybe he just saw all the links and got excited.

Bin Noddin · Post by **Bin Noddin** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 9:02 pm

smoke gets in your eyes"
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Bin Noddin · Post by **Bin Noddin** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 7:47 pm

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Bin Noddin · Post by **Bin Noddin** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 6:27 am

On line and spreading garbage right now:

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Bin Noddin · Post by **Bin Noddin** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 6:24 am

Yeah, sure . . .
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Lassen Forge · Post by **Lassen Forge** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:02 am

Just so you know... there's a spammer who has been doing variations of this name game. We are watching him and his ilk...

BTW - I killed the link - force of habit. But we have his "particulars" now on file anyway... Thanks!!!

bb
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Buerau of Bulletin Board Bastage Blasters.

Post by **AntiM** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:03 pm

Please note that I redirected seamountain here from Regionals and Events to discuss why a business may not be posted on eplaya. Yes, the terms of Service have been pointed out, but I told him (?) the community would be happy to discuss our no commerce rule.

And a note, we are in the process of creating and defining a sticky to provide clearer guidelines as to what may be posted in E&R.

Please discuss. And Play Nice, m'kay?

helitack · Post by **helitack** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:11 pm

Not to mention they discriminate...

Post by **AntiM** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:20 pm

That's exactly why there's been a number of us hashing out guidelines to be posted. I always went for a more relaxed board, but apparently we're to have none of that. Geez. I apologize for being too nice and too lax.

I told this person to come to case studies after I pulled the original posts from R&E, and they objected. And yeah, I'm handing it out to the community, and the other mods may well disagree with the way I did this. The post above may or may not last ...

I'm tired of explaining things. I was busy with real spam. No offense, seamountain, but yes, I would count your spa as advertising, but since you say you're a burner, I thought you could get some discourse going.

Nice timing too, if I were paranoid, I'd think this was a set-up.

helitack · Post by **helitack** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:25 pm

There are quite a few people that have commercial websites on their posts. RIght next to profile, pm then www. A bunch of them. That is commercial use of this board. Plus seamountain discriminates.

Post by **AntiM** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:33 pm

I see. Sorry, I'm tired and will continue this in the morning. feel free to pm me.

Toolmaker · Post by **Toolmaker** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 8:40 pm

As far as the spa goes it sounds like a gift to the community. I only see 2 problems.

1) No radical inclusion.. ie no single males allowed but single chicks are.. sounds like a swingers club and not a nudist resort. The gay couple inclusion does give the resort a brownie point though.

2) Things like this tend to have strings attached.. like the campground membership rackets.. "come for a free weekend" and listen to a commerce sales pitch 3 times a day about membership and while there you wind up spending cash for food, drink, etc.

I think I have heard of this place before and if memory serves it is indeed a swingers club thats members only and charges fees just to walk in the door. Maybe if they added a rave once a month and associated a themecamp with it can go back to R&E.

helitack · Post by **helitack** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 8:46 pm

nevermind, I'll just go to the secret hot spring.

Archantael · Post by **Archantael** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 9:02 pm

I see the spa stuff as commerce. And I think Anti M made the right call in pulling the post, no matter how vocal any whining might be about it.

If that post is allowed back up, then open a section up for all commerce. Of course that flies in the face of what the BM.org does with the actual event and I thought that the reason this board truly existed in the first place was to be a virtual extension of the playa...with all the socio-political rules transferring over.

Why should commerce in any form be allowed now? We've fought it tooth and nail for 6 years that I know of...so why introduce it now? I know people hate it when I bring up the board's past...but the precedent is commerce is not acceptable here. Can anyone other than the spa owner offer a compelling argument as to why so many years of precedent should be tossed?

/soapbox

Toolmaker · Post by **Toolmaker** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 9:32 pm

seamountain wrote:no such
thing if sea mountain offers a free anything there is no lecture and there is no rant or membership
we are trying to put a positive spin on all

Notice that there is no flexibility on the ban of single men LOL. I am not a single guy but I do believe in radical inclusion.. as much as that may hurt sometimes.

K4: I was under the distinct impression that commerce rules have changed to allow for raves and commerce links in profiles. I have seen everything among the www links in folks profiles.. photogs, rvcamps, nightclubs, pharmaceutical sales, auto parts, credit, bancruptcy, porn etc etc.. I figure we have no less than 2000 link farmers on hand with www links and all of em with ZERO posts on eplaya. We also have some regulars who I will not mention with commerce links in their profile (KARL BABA) oops I slipped that are permitted since it is loosely art related ie pictures taken of other people without their permission to sell commercially.

My personal opinion is that ALL commerce should be verboten. Even the raves that happen on a monthly basis, which happens 4 times at 4 different venues throughout the month in one city. (this is where more folks plonk me) I believe in the GIFT ECONOMY.. this means NO CHARGE! When I had made extra springs I didn't try to shill for shipping costs or material costs.. the thread said FREE and I meant it. Another good example is the wonderful burner that provides batteries FOR FREE. No mention of even trying to get some gas money for luggin the things home. I wish I recalled the name so I could give due credit to this wonderful example of a person that GIFTS. I think its burnerboy or something like that.

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