Why do people walk straight thru camps?

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Post by glam_daddy » Mon Sep 15, 2003 3:17 pm

are you part of a theme camp?

did you mark bounderies? we mark our theme camp bounderies with a combination of parked cars and a string of banners. there is one way in and 1 way out. so cutting through is harder.

even so there were people who would walk right through. I never worried too much or spent much time bothering them. Sure i could stop and berate every one of them but why bother? For the most part they are simply trying to get somewhere.

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Post by PetsUntilEaten » Mon Sep 15, 2003 3:22 pm

just playing d.a. - devil's advocate:

glam - would you have worried more if you had theft from your tents & camp ground the way other fenced & bordered camps did?

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Post by OregonRed » Mon Sep 15, 2003 4:49 pm

glam_daddy wrote:are you part of a theme camp? "

Yes we are.

"did you mark bounderies? we mark our theme camp bounderies with a combination of parked cars and a string of banners. there is one way in and 1 way out. so cutting through is harder."

We did this...people cut through anyway.

"even so there were people who would walk right through. I never worried too much or spent much time bothering them. Sure i could stop and berate every one of them but why bother? For the most part they are simply trying to get somewhere."

I suppose that's one way to look at it, but after having two bicycles and a visitors camera stolen we stopped being so blase about the whole thing. It was a matter of security, and, as both DogBoy and myself have said, safety. Cutting thru many of the theme camps (ours included) can be extremely dangerous. Not to mention after the incidents of theft people who cut thru and did not say hello were regarded with some suspiscion.

More than anything it's just plain rude to walk through someones living space without saying hello.

"no biggie..
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Well it is to me.
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Maze camp

Post by nick » Tue Oct 21, 2003 11:07 pm

I agree that brc is not the default world, and I also agree that cutting through public areas is not a big deal -- but going into an area that is clearly closed is not only rude, it's dangerous. I had people walk ON TOP OF a pile of mylar for crying out loud!

I have a great solution: Maze camp -- a network of "short cuts," secret passages, and fake "closed areas" to beguile, bewilder and provide a quick route to the porta-potties.

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Post by III » Tue Oct 21, 2003 11:10 pm

>great solution

best idea ever: enchanted rebar forest.
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Post by JezebelinHell » Wed Oct 22, 2003 2:44 am

Or you could just dig a big hole, cover it with a blanket, and capture people walking through your theme camps. Bonus points if you can get a troll to guard it.
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Post by Alpha » Wed Oct 22, 2003 7:37 am

with rebar punji sticks at the bottom!

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Post by nick » Wed Oct 22, 2003 7:58 am

Another possiblity: Put up a solid wall of graffitied veneer with a tiny, poorly light entrance, like a Lower East Side bar in NYC -- and then have a contingent of junkies and homeless people meet any visitors... Real ones!

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Post by BlueBirdPoof » Wed Oct 22, 2003 8:04 am

I just keep thinking of a herd of those motion detector frogs, all croaking at once.

I think "roads" are a lot less natural than paths to us, and we switch to the unconcious default at BRC. Ever been to one of those cities or villages in Europe (or I suppose South America or Asia or Africa) or even New England where the original roads are former cowpaths?

Was it Eisenhower who when the President of a collage/university changed the paths over the quad to be where the students wore down the grass, rather than the sidewalks provided?

It wasn't until the city came down and I could see the distance that I realized that the advice I'd been giving all week on getting to the port'o'potties "Go one block up to Dogma and then one block in either direction to the half hour" was bad and should have been "Go one block over on Creed to the half hour and then one block out to Dogma." Amazing how the distance added up on only one block.

These planned communities never (facitious) work. Look at Brazilia. Who knows what Celebration will come to in a few years.

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Post by Zane5100 » Wed Oct 22, 2003 10:39 am

III wrote:>great solution

best idea ever: enchanted rebar forest.
Yup.

Best hippie trap I can think of.

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Wascally wavers

Post by DogBoy » Wed Oct 22, 2003 4:31 pm

I have talked for some years about making a raver trap- A big box with a stick holding it up (Elmer Fudd/Bugs Bunny style) with a sign pointing in saying "Free Glow Sticks!" Catch em, tag em, transport them to another part of the playa.

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Post by tzimisce1313 » Wed Oct 22, 2003 4:44 pm

III wrote:>great solution

best idea ever: enchanted rebar forest.
and this is why i believe that shoes are a good thing.

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Re: Wascally wavers

Post by BlueBirdPoof » Wed Oct 22, 2003 4:47 pm

DogBoy wrote: raver trap-....... Catch em, tag em, transport them to another part of the playa.
Why limit yourself to the playa? There must be plenty of enviroments that could swallow that invasive species. There's a ranch outside Crawford Texas where they might find some friends.

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Post by tzimisce1313 » Wed Oct 22, 2003 4:51 pm

raver trap...lol

man, i'm glad i can say that there will be no need fo that with me... nad if you try... i'm sure i could make it worth your while to keep me there :wink:

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Post by PJ » Wed Oct 22, 2003 5:31 pm

Why do people walk straight thru camps?
To get to the other side?

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Re: Wascally wavers

Post by Markov Chaney » Thu Oct 23, 2003 8:47 am

DogBoy wrote:..raver trap..
That is one of the funniest things I've heard on the eplaya. If you don't make one, I just might.

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Post by DogBoy » Thu Oct 23, 2003 1:39 pm

My favorite was still the year we went drift-netting for trippers. Take a 18' x 18' fish net & stick glow sticks in it. Put a person on each corner, & walk down the esplanade offer free glow sticks if you can grab them. Any fish foolish enough to try...

Weird thing was we came back with more glow sticks than we left camp with, & a cowboy hat to boot.

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Post by Ugly Dougly » Fri Oct 24, 2003 10:19 am

Where are your boundaries, now that the mad circus has passed?
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Post by Raheer » Sun Oct 26, 2003 5:18 am

I have a great idea; TRAFFIC HAZARD CAMP!!! No one will come running through your camp because noone but you will know the safe routes through it!

The entire camp is designed around 'men at work', and other road signs. Mostly prank signs. My favourite street sign is the one that reads: Orange Cones mean Men at Work. I'm going to change that one to read: Orange Cones mean Psycadelic Witches Embedded in Asphalt.

Any other ideas?

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Post by Last Real Burner » Thu Dec 04, 2003 8:17 pm

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha....

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signs

Post by Ms.Y.Depraved » Wed Dec 10, 2003 10:09 pm

In NM people put ufo's over the cattle in cattle crossing signs. You could make one with a ufo over a human crossing sign too.
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Post by Raheer » Thu Dec 11, 2003 4:59 am

Or I could just build an alien-crossing sign.

And a Slow Men at Work sign would be perfect. Just set up a pothole with a sign stating that it's due to be repaired on July 13, 7435. Talk about Slow Men!

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alien crossing

Post by Ms.Y.Depraved » Thu Dec 11, 2003 6:13 pm

Road Block signs,that's it! I just can't in good conscious go with more potholes at burning man. I'm a city girl so I go to get away don'tcha know from big city life here in lalaland.
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Post by precipitate » Thu Dec 11, 2003 11:42 pm

> Road Block signs,that's it!

Uh huh. I had two disassembled bicycles and a full roll of barbed wire, and
people still tried to go between my tent and the next one over.
You'd need full-time traffic patrol.

And I wouldn't mind the thru-traffic so much, it's the fucktards who decide
my front porch or my coolers are theirs for the taking that piss me off.

Oh, and the reason I had a full roll of barbed wire at my disposal was
because the Rangers decided it was a community hazard to have it
surrounding our camp.

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Post by Zane5100 » Fri Dec 12, 2003 8:14 am

precipitate wrote:Uh huh. I had two disassembled bicycles and a full roll of barbed wire, and people still tried to go between my tent and the next one over.
You'd need full-time traffic patrol.
I used a dolly and rebar for my hippie trap. It worked pretty well after the first night of "Ow, shit!" exclamations.
precipitate wrote:And I wouldn't mind the thru-traffic so much, it's the fucktards who decide my front porch or my coolers are theirs for the taking that piss me off.
Are you sure we can't shoot people for that? I think of it as B&E and burglary and treat the fuckwits appropriately.

That and I'm trying to come up with an excuse to get the new S&W .50 magnum...
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becaused they're blissed out on ...?????****

Post by Ms.Y.Depraved » Fri Dec 12, 2003 6:35 pm

the euphoria that is burning man. so don't fuck with the high man please. w/barbed wire??? You need to make things that show em the way with nice walls with pictures of kittens and ice cream pointing in the other direction away from your camp..
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Post by III » Fri Dec 12, 2003 8:01 pm

>don't fuck with the high man please

well, as long as the high man stays out of other peoples shit, there shouldn't be a problem...
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Post by Chai Guy » Fri Dec 12, 2003 8:10 pm

well, as long as the high man stays out of other peoples shit, there shouldn't be a problem...

Oh, yeah, this one is going to be a bumper sticker for 2004!

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to III

Post by Ms.Y.Depraved » Fri Dec 12, 2003 8:37 pm

go see
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then look at Nov 26 2003
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A-Maze-ing

Post by 68barracuda » Sat Dec 13, 2003 11:25 pm

How about putting up mazes of sail cloth so that when people try to pass thru your camp they get lost in all the dead ends and get so upset they follow their trail of bread crumbs back out of your maze vowing never to try passing thru your camp again. Then again you could have traps and paintball markers that blast the intruders with a full auto burst of some funky colored paint.

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