Anarchists versus Green

ecosutra · Post by **ecosutra** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 3:48 pm

Ok, I just got back to burningman. I have big concerns if I am to ever attend again.

1- Burningman event planners need to invest in a solar thermal hydrogen generator and then everyone can plug into the grid.

2- BM has officially gotten to big- I can barley breath the air form all the art cars. There is no reason each art car should be a hybrid with a trailer or something. Unless your a bus.

3- I did not appreciate the disgruntelness of the Art/ independent/ anarachists who have no concern about getting green. I think the ego and arrogance from all the DJ club camps was disgusting. The arena has changed and become a poser fest of pretentious loosers who have no clue whats coming. The tipping point of unsustainable greed were the freak club scum.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:46 pm

I could argue with you on so many levels. But enjoy your vacation to harvest green coffee in costa rica next labor day.

Isotopia · Post by **Isotopia** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:26 pm

[quote]
1- Burningman event planners need to invest in a solar thermal hydrogen generator and then everyone can plug into the grid.

2- BM has officially gotten to big- I can barley breath the air form all the art cars. There is no reason each art car should be a hybrid with a trailer or something. Unless your a bus.

3- I did not appreciate the disgruntelness of the Art/ independent/ anarachists who have no concern about getting green. I think the ego and arrogance from all the DJ club camps was disgusting. The arena has changed and become a poser fest of pretentious loosers who have no clue whats coming. The tipping point of unsustainable greed were the freak club scum.[/quote]

Unless you volunteer you're in no position to make fucking demands - hippie.

Glad I could help.

diane o'thirst · Post by **diane o'thirst** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:55 pm

Let me get this right...

Art cars are formed out of air? Wow. Guess art car makers have been having us all on when they say they spent [x] amount of dollars on them.

Barley breath? You been hitting the beer again?

And where exactly is "big?" Or did you mean they're bigging? How does one big?

What's an anarachist? Someone who follows a spider?

(Sorry, couldn't resist taking a swipe at this guy's spelling skills...maybe we can have an event where we read wildly misspelled posts in the grand tradition of The Eye of Argon...)

dj_john69 · Post by **dj_john69** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:12 pm

ecosutra wrote:Ok, I just got back to burningman. I have big concerns if I am to ever attend again.

1- Burningman event planners need to invest in a solar thermal hydrogen generator and then everyone can plug into the grid.

2- BM has officially gotten to big- I can barley breath the air form all the art cars. There is no reason each art car should be a hybrid with a trailer or something. Unless your a bus.

3- I did not appreciate the disgruntelness of the Art/ independent/ anarachists who have no concern about getting green. I think the ego and arrogance from all the DJ club camps was disgusting. The arena has changed and become a poser fest of pretentious loosers who have no clue whats coming. The tipping point of unsustainable greed were the freak club scum.

Okay, so dont fucking go in 2008. Seems simple enough.

Teo del Fuego · Post by **Teo del Fuego** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:18 pm

We interrupted this program for the following announcement...

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Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:54 pm

Plasma fusion is the energy solution of the future.

And will always be.

Badger · Post by **Badger** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:52 pm

Plasma fusion is the energy solution of the future.

And will always be.

You make a declarative statement about a potential energy source that doesn't quite exist.

I'm curious. How can it always be when it almost isn't?

BAS · Post by **BAS** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:45 pm

Miniature, man-made black hole power generators are the energy solution of the future! Or, at least are until we can figure out how to tap the energy of parallel universes!

B.

Post by **AntiM** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:47 pm

Naw, ZPM modules. Any Gatie knows that.

BAS · Post by **BAS** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:50 pm

Well, in theory the cat-buttered bread perpetual motion device would deliver an unlimited energy supply. Of course, in reality, the cat always somehow manages to lick the butter off of the bread, and any restraint capable of preventing the feline consumption of the butter results in a net power loss. Therefore, I shouldn't even bring it up....

B.

Badger · Post by **Badger** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:06 pm

Of course, in reality, the cat always somehow manages to lick the butter off of the bread,

But, but how can the cat lick the butter off the bread when we all know that the butter always lands floor side down when dropped off the kitchen counter.

Post by **AntiM** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:21 pm

Sub-linoleum cats?

playasnake · Post by **playasnake** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:26 pm

Badger wrote:
Plasma fusion is the energy solution of the future.

And will always be.
You make a declarative statement about a potential energy source that doesn't quite exist.

I'm curious. How can it always be when it almost isn't?

i believe the point is that plasma fusion will always be touted as the next great thing, yet will never be attained.

kind of like a green burningman.

space monk · Post by **space monk** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:40 pm

i'm a green anarchist. if there aren't BIG CHANGES in 08, and i mean from the burners themselves, Gaia has special plans for those who forgot to become 'Green'.....

diane o'thirst · Post by **diane o'thirst** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:49 pm

Badger wrote:I'm curious. How can it always be when it almost isn't?

Think I got the joke...

"will always be", as in, will never be now.

BAS · Post by **BAS** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 9:05 pm

Badger wrote:
Of course, in reality, the cat always somehow manages to lick the butter off of the bread,
But, but how can the cat lick the butter off the bread when we all know that the butter always lands floor side down when dropped off the kitchen counter.

Well, that is half the point of the hypothetical generator. The other half is the cat, which always lands on its feet. The buttered bread is strapped, butter side up, to the cat's back. The cat/buttered bread combo is then dropped. Since neither side can land (since that would leave the other side up, which is impossible) the cat/bread combo will spin in place for all eternity. The difficulty that cats are extremely dexterous and view butter as a treat; therefore, will lick the butter off the bread, allowing the cat to land on its feet. As stated, there have been proposed mechanisms to prevent the cat from eating the butter, but they all make the mechanism energy inefficient. Thus the cat/buttered bread engine remains purely hypothetical.

B.

diane o'thirst · Post by **diane o'thirst** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 9:13 pm

At least until the straps, via centrifugal force, cut through the bread, at which time the bread will fly off, and the cat will land on its feet.

Lappet-lappet-lappet-lappety...

BAS · Post by **BAS** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 9:23 pm

True. I don't know as anyone has actually got a cat to hold still long enough to have the bread strapped to it in the first place, to be honest!

B.

Badger · Post by **Badger** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 9:35 pm

Well, that is half the point of the hypothetical generator. The other half is the cat,

Dude, I smell Nobel.

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 10:03 am

Badger wrote:I'm curious.

It is okay to be confused.

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 10:09 am

Meanwhile, here's something that works.

BAS · Post by **BAS** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 11:06 am

Ugly Dougly wrote:Meanwhile, here's something that works.

That'll never fit on the roof of my Saturn Wagon...!

B.

playasnake · Post by **playasnake** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 5:53 pm

Ugly Dougly wrote:Meanwhile, here's something that works.

even in 70 mph winds?

Plastic G'zus · Post by **Plastic G'zus** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:27 am

Sure, it's a great way to cook hot dogs, but what about pancakes?

barnz · Post by **barnz** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:45 am

BAS wrote:True. I don't know as anyone has actually got a cat to hold still long enough to have the bread strapped to it in the first place, to be honest!

B.

BAS · Post by **BAS** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 7:47 am

barnz wrote:
BAS wrote:True. I don't know as anyone has actually got a cat to hold still long enough to have the bread strapped to it in the first place, to be honest!

B.

Well, sure, if you get the cat drunk in the first place! But that just ruins the engine, since a drunk cat isn't coordinated enough to land on its feet in the first place! Sheesh! I thought that this went without saying! (I can't quite read the bottle, but I hope it was a good brand of beer, not just some cheap stuff from the neighborhood convenience store.)

B.

BTW, I like the expression on the cat's face.

barnz · Post by **barnz** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 10:41 am

BAS wrote:(I can't quite read the bottle, but I hope it was a good brand of beer, not just some cheap stuff from the neighborhood convenience store.)

BEER?!?

It's Single-malt Scotch!

BAS · Post by **BAS** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 6:19 pm

barnz wrote:
BAS wrote:(I can't quite read the bottle, but I hope it was a good brand of beer, not just some cheap stuff from the neighborhood convenience store.)
BEER?!?
It's Single-malt Scotch!

Oh, well that's okay, then. Nothing but the best for Bast! (er, I mean, CATS!)

B.

barnz · Post by **barnz** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 9:32 am

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