Is Eplaya just an insiders club for 5 people?

KellY · Post by **KellY** » Thu Feb 12, 2004 6:14 pm

Um, maybe the same people who think computerized voting with no paper trail is a good idea...?

DE FACTO · Post by **DE FACTO** » Thu Feb 12, 2004 6:26 pm

Patience wrote:Oh please, no ridiculous ratings system. That's just what we need, more bullshit that obscures the real issues people could be discussing. Every time some asshole is on the DF (dumb fuck) side of an argument they can create 20 sock puppets to boost their "popularity" and then point to that as some sort of demented "proof" that their position is justified.

Now, who would advocate the implementation of a mod that seems practically designed to manipulate and deceive others like this?

looks around

That's not the way the mods work.

just my point. how can anyone make any statement about any of the mods without checking them out first.

Got pot?

Damn my mistake. posted under the wrong sock.

ruined my count.

bummer

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Fri Feb 13, 2004 3:56 pm

Welcome to the modern day Star Chamber: Guilty until proven innocent is the rule with this crowd which means any mod that might help the eplaya will be shot down before it even has a chance. Thankfully the ETF has cooler heads and active participants that will not let a few loud mouths ruin the day and force their agendas onto the rest of us.

III · Post by **III** » Fri Feb 13, 2004 4:01 pm

>>any mod that might help the eplaya

you've yet to make a convincing argument for how it might help the eplaya. i'm not even sure which issue it's supposed to address, much less how it's supposed to improve that issue.

KellY · Post by **KellY** » Fri Feb 13, 2004 4:02 pm

So says the great Sock Puppeteer...

(edit) Damn, my post was supposed to appear after al's - Trey and I posted at the same time.

Lydia Love · Post by **Lydia Love** » Fri Feb 13, 2004 4:16 pm

I think there are laws of stupidity much like there are laws of science. Drop a rock, it falls. Drop a rock in water it creates ripples. Create a mod that can be abused in that fashion and it will be abused.

I don't think a mod has to be "tried out' to see where it's shortcomings are.

Last Real Burner · Post by **Last Real Burner** » Fri Feb 13, 2004 9:09 pm

Seems we agree, mr nipples....

anonymously,
mr smith

Bob · Post by **Bob** » Fri Feb 13, 2004 11:01 pm

As with anything, I wouldn't reject a rating system out of hand. But I'd look first at the logic of it, esp. in relation to the rest of Burning Man.

Ratings imply worth, or worthiness, and some sort of measures of arriving at it.

Worth is without doubt applied in judging art proposals, both from organizers of stand-alone installations, as well as the Man and the cruft underneath it. AFAIK this often involves vetting concepts iteratively, via a combination of face-to-face conversation, cornering the right people at parties, telephone tag, hard-copy text & renderings, email, web-based descriptions, videos, etc., with responses and in-house discussion as appropriate by the art dept. to flesh out the details and the feng shui of the whole thing wrt to the art/playa-space, theme-worthiness, etc. In the end, art-as-such happens, in a specific area of the event space.

Worth is doubtless applied in judging the acceptability and placement of theme camps, based on their proposals via the online registration form and the reputation of the camp and one or more of its organizers. In the end, theme camp happen, also in a specific area of the event space.

Worth, sans any reasonable doubt, is applied in approving and sustaining all the various Burning Man departments, wrt composition and function, both year-round and during the event, as well as all the various services supported by the LLC. I leave the details to the reader, but suffice it to say there's a lot of what you'd call "politics" in arriving at "worth".

Bottom line -- the eplaya doesn't have any specific function or mission, in relation to Burning Man or anything else, other than those invested by its frequenters. I'd argue that even the topic organization is designed in response to the patterns of past users, but the areas of heaviest use are the ones that are the most general. So, I see no logical way of arriving at worth or worthiness, much less a fair one. Given that it's essentially the online version of general-admission or walk-in camping, I see no great need to fuck with it too much, beyond the basic expectations of comportment to which we are accustomed at the event.

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Fri Feb 13, 2004 11:11 pm

Hmmmm,

sounds to me like some people are more worried about finding out they are not as popular as they thought than just kicking back and having a good time.

It's pretty sad really.

I bet If the mods were installed, the most popular just may turn out to be a plant.

You know something.....I guess that would be pretty ego shatering.

Badger · Post by **Badger** » Sat Feb 14, 2004 4:49 am

Go take your meds.

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Sat Feb 14, 2004 8:18 am

Badger wrote:Go take your meds.

This comming from someone that uses this

and this

as avatars.

you are starting to sound like you may be a little jealous about something or other. hummmm?

Remember anamosity gets you nowhere.

Tancorix · Post by **Tancorix** » Sat Feb 14, 2004 4:29 pm

That was the best laugh I've had in a long, long time!!!!

depros · Post by **depros** » Thu Feb 26, 2004 8:32 pm

bob's last post rating: 4.9 stars out of 5.

a hello to all e-playans! i don't think i have posted since a few days before the last burn. i quit my job before i went out to the desert and now have a job where i actually do work all day and do not have the time to sit and post on here all day. it was nice to meet the e-playans out on the playa!
so tell me, have i missed anything?

if anyone is interested, i have a bunch of "BRC" stickers courtesy of my camp, The Philadelphia Experiment. they are the white oval kind with BRC in the middle to put on your car. shoot me an email if you are interested.

PantzookaHQ · Post by **PantzookaHQ** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 2:32 pm

We want Lydia's pant!

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Thu May 27, 2004 10:03 am

Is Eplaya just an insiders club for 5 people?

Not any more. (not that it was anyway to begin with.)

cowboyangel · Post by **cowboyangel** » Thu May 27, 2004 4:34 pm

the eplaya belongs to anyone who'll use it. I'm positive John Ashcroft is using it. Anything with "Bush's" name mentioned so many times has be visited by Ashcroft's borgs. If you're listening John, how about one of your weird christian songs?
I'll pay money for Lydia's pants

5 people?

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Thu May 27, 2004 4:53 pm

cowboyangel wrote:Anything with "Bush's" name mentioned so many times has be visited by Ashcroft's borgs. If you're listening John, how about one of your weird christian songs?

And John answered: La LA LA LA LA

madmatt · Post by **madmatt** » Thu May 27, 2004 6:39 pm

Wow, I thought this thread died years ago.

So I guess I know the answer now.

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Thu May 27, 2004 6:50 pm

madmatt wrote:Wow, I thought this thread died years ago.

So I guess I know the answer now.

R U kidding.

this is a madmatt thread. weather you're on this board or the L.A. board it's the madmatt thread that makes the diffrence.

madmatt · Post by **madmatt** » Fri May 28, 2004 5:19 pm

Teehee...thanks. <insert blushing emoticom here>

depros · Post by **depros** » Fri May 28, 2004 11:53 pm

I believe that all the supposed e-playans are actually just one person posting under different usernames. This could mean two things; either I am the only other e-playan or you are.

Captain Goddammit · Post by **Captain Goddammit** » Sat May 29, 2004 8:25 am

Or it's ALL you and you're more disturbed than you thought.

cowboyangel · Post by **cowboyangel** » Sat May 29, 2004 10:49 am

yer right depro.....we're all one anyway ( emerson oversoul)

madmatt · Post by **madmatt** » Sat May 29, 2004 11:53 am

cowboyangel wrote:yer right depro.....we're all one anyway ( emerson oversoul)

Ooooh, intriguing. So we're all the same person and don't even know it? But what does it mean that we've disovered that? Will all the alternate personalities die off and leave the real one behind? Which one will it be?

cowboyangel · Post by **cowboyangel** » Sat May 29, 2004 1:03 pm

Larry

Zulegoona · Post by **Zulegoona** » Sat May 29, 2004 3:07 pm

That's right we are all Larry, more precisely aspects of Larry revealed in a dream he's having. Pretty soon now we will all merge back into his subconscious, and he will wake up and load the first burning man into the back of a truck and take it to the beach.

BAS · Post by **BAS** » Sat May 29, 2004 7:03 pm

You know, I always kind of suspected that I was just an aspect of someone else. (Although I thought I probably someone's hallucination more than an aspect revealed in a dream.)

Hmm. If I am an aspect of Larry, I think he probably needs to get therapy!

Captain Goddammit · Post by **Captain Goddammit** » Sat May 29, 2004 7:35 pm

You ARE the little voice in his head, saying....

rubyredalys · Post by **rubyredalys** » Sat May 29, 2004 7:48 pm

okay, so this post has gone on and on. but i post. so add +1.

and i didn't know ashcroft could carry a tune, i'm not sure which is scarier...he can sing or that he wrote that song.

-a

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Sat May 29, 2004 7:54 pm

madmatt wrote:Ok, is it just me, or does it seem like there's only like 5 people posting like 95% of the stuff on this board (not that there's anything wrong with it).

"...(not that there's anything wrong with it)...."

If there wasn't anything wrong why would bother posting this!

And... some people have a life. I don't!

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