age question

nispe · Post by **nispe** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 7:00 pm

Some friends and I (5-6 total) are planning on attending Burning Man for our first time, next year.
We will all be 18-19 years of age eccept one. She will be 17.

Will this be an issue?

If so, what can we do to have her attend with us?

Firmwood · Post by **Firmwood** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 7:01 pm

Shoes with big heels.

whyrd · Post by **whyrd** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 7:46 pm

Shouldn't be much of an issue, but a playa name of Jailbait is perfectly appropriate. 8)

falk · Post by **falk** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 7:50 pm

IIRC, the under-18 ones will need to be with a parent or guardian.

EB · Post by EB » Mon Aug 18, 2008 8:03 pm

nispe wrote:Some friends and I (5-6 total) are planning on attending Burning Man for our first time, next year.
We will all be 18-19 years of age eccept one. She will be 17.

Will this be an issue?

If so, what can we do to have her attend with us?

If she's under 18, she has to be with an adult/guardian. Maybe they won't check, maybe they will. You'll be rolling the dice.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 8:17 pm

And the guardian needs to be over 21, so none of you will qualify.

Post by **mdmf007** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 8:37 pm

god, cant this question be added to the FAQ, oh wait - its already there.

I will be playside in 96 hours. Woot

nispe · Post by **nispe** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 10:15 pm

[quote]And the guardian needs to be over 21, so none of you will qualify.[/quote]

yeah thats our problem. i mean shes an important part of our "social group" if you will, and it would be a shame for us to drive for 2 days and have issues at the entrance. =(

also another question i have is how does one gain entry. is it like border patrol type security? or do you just drive up and park or what?

tl:dr how does the greeting process work?

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 10:31 pm

drive in backwards, wave and say goodbye, the guards will think your leaving..........

EB · Post by EB » Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:10 pm

Post by **AntiM** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 6:51 am

There is one road in, the rest of the area is fenced and yes, they watch for people driving across to avoid the Gate. Yes, they have night vision goggles. At the gate they take your tickets, check ID if you all look underage, and search the vehicle for contraband like guns and unregistered mutant vehicles and stowaways. Then you proceed through the greeters station and forward to find a camping spot.

This information is in the survival and first timers guides. The documents are there for a reason.

Dr. Pyro · Post by **Dr. Pyro** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:10 am

My advice, and please take this in the spirit in which it is intended (that is to say, the legal spirit) is to leave her at home.

Fire_Moose · Post by **Fire_Moose** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:36 am

I'll be her guardian.

wedeliver · Post by **wedeliver** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:00 am

Last year my son who was 20 brought his girlfriend who was 16. She brought a note from her mother. He is here, still sleeping, I will ask him when he wakes up what happened at the gate last year. More to come.

nispe · Post by **nispe** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:13 am

[quote="wedeliver"] Last year my son who was 20 brought his girlfriend who was 16. She brought a note from her mother. He is here, still sleeping, I will ask him when he wakes up what happened at the gate last year. More to come. [/quote]

great thanks.

shes a burner at heart. weve gone to mini burns and other local BM inspired parties, clubs, etc together most with the 18+ tag, i ask about this one just beause its more that a 30 min drive back to the apartment if she cant get in. =P

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:22 am

Fire_Moose wrote:I'll be her guardian.

Yes, you can protect her from strangers.

Dr. Pyro · Post by **Dr. Pyro** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:26 am

And they don't get much stranger than us.

ZaphodBurner · Post by **ZaphodBurner** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 3:37 pm

Tell her to wear a fake mustache. That'll make her look older.

Or, hook up with some pervert Burner who will sneak her in as his daughter or smuggle her through in his kick drum...

.... ....OMFG It's Chris Hansen! PRANK CALL! PRANK CALL!!! I THOUGHT SHE WAS 21......

(jesus. was that over the line? )

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 3:52 pm

She should bring a note from her mom:
To whom it may consern:
Doris is so 18 years old.
So there.
Singed,
My Mom.

All in fun.

wedeliver · Post by **wedeliver** » Wed Aug 20, 2008 4:02 pm

Ugly Dougly wrote:She should bring a note from her mom:
To whom it may consern:
Doris is so 18 years old.
So there.
Singed,
My Mom.

All in fun.

So her name is Doris!!

a little burn on the mind maybe..

or did she burn her mom?

singe:
Verb
[singeing, singed]
to burn slightly without setting alight; scorch: it singed his sheepskin
Noun
a slight burn [Old English sengan]

uncle sticky · Post by **uncle sticky** » Wed Aug 20, 2008 5:36 pm

Most likely, she won't get in. If all ya'll are around 18, you'll all get carded. If she can't prove that she's 18, she won't be allowed in, and neither will your vehicle. You can't just dump her at the gate, as you seem to know.

You'd need a letter, probably notarized, attesting to the fact that her parent has given guardianship to someone else in the group, someone over 21.

I don't think it'll work unless you have a cool aunt or older sibling who will take on all of that legal responsibility.

ilmarinen · Post by **ilmarinen** » Wed Aug 20, 2008 6:24 pm

I know nothing about any of these per se, but that doesn't usually stop folks from talking....

Really, how hard is it going to be to find a vehicle of respectable-looking (is there such a thing in a burner?)-clear-of-age friendly burners in the queue-up at gate (I've an impression there is a big queue?) and get them to let her ride in with them? Seems likely she'd make it through that way.

Or, find some other burners local to you (I presume there is some sorta local community wherever you are at? Sorta late to be getting started, but...) to caravan down with and look responsible for a teenager.

I am hoping you really are all close-knit group of "good kids" who will be looking out for each other, are responsible, and aren't gonna let bad things happen to yourselves or each-other. There are good reasons for the age restrictions. Current science has pretty good evidence that full maturity of decision-making, etc., doesn't occur until into the 20s. But I do think teenagers can be self-reliant, just think it takes more conscious efforts on their parts.

-B

uncle sticky wrote:Most likely, she won't get in. If all ya'll are around 18, you'll all get carded. If she can't prove that she's 18, she won't be allowed in, and neither will your vehicle. You can't just dump her at the gate, as you seem to know.

You'd need a letter, probably notarized, attesting to the fact that her parent has given guardianship to someone else in the group, someone over 21.

I don't think it'll work unless you have a cool aunt or older sibling who will take on all of that legal responsibility.

Fire_Moose · Post by **Fire_Moose** » Thu Aug 21, 2008 9:07 am

I thought all teenagers were drunken dope addicts who are glue sniffers...

ilmarinen · Post by **ilmarinen** » Thu Aug 21, 2008 10:32 am

Yes, but are they responsible drunken dope addict glue sniffers?

-B.

Fire_Moose wrote:I thought all teenagers were drunken dope addicts who are glue sniffers...

ilmarinen · Post by **ilmarinen** » Thu Aug 21, 2008 10:43 am

Doh, missed that you said "next year", by which you mean 2009. Should totally be enough time to befriend some local burners, convince them you are responsible (if you are) and get them to "smuggle" her in for ya. (Might be best if someone actually *did* sign temporary/limited guardianship over to one of them formally...and you then camped with them, just to make it all on the up-and-up.)

-B.

ilmarinen wrote: . . .

Or, find some other burners local to you (I presume there is some sorta local community wherever you are at? Sorta late to be getting started, but...) to caravan down with and look responsible for a teenager.

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Fri Aug 22, 2008 1:59 pm

She will be left behind for the guards to amuse themselves with.

aclockworkapple · Post by **aclockworkapple** » Fri Aug 22, 2008 2:08 pm

I'm sure the piece of paper that came with my ticket said that all persons must be 18 years of age or have a parent/guardian OF THAT AGE.

I don't think they're worried about 16-year-olds bringing their kids in.

wedeliver · Post by **wedeliver** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 7:25 am

nispe wrote:Some friends and I (5-6 total) are planning on attending Burning Man for our first time, next year.
We will all be 18-19 years of age eccept one. She will be 17.

Will this be an issue?

If so, what can we do to have her attend with us?

I wonder how it all worked out??

bonzaikitty · Post by **bonzaikitty** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 3:25 pm

I bought my ticket on my own before my eighteenth birthday, and got into BRC just fine. I look about 16, but nobody questioned my age. She should be fine, as long as you all play it cool. But to be safe, have a 21-or-older guardian with you.

Sidenote: The playa is a very harsh environment, and while I understand where the people who advise minors not to go at all are coming from... I think it is a load of bullshit. Regardless of the attendees age, the important factor is whether or not they, personally, have the maturity to take care of themselves-- Whether they are fourteen, or thirty-five.

Post by **AntiM** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:10 pm

wedeliver wrote:
nispe wrote:Some friends and I (5-6 total) are planning on attending Burning Man for our first time, next year.
We will all be 18-19 years of age eccept one. She will be 17.

Will this be an issue?

If so, what can we do to have her attend with us?
I wonder how it all worked out??

I guess we'll find out next year when they go.

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