What's a Palin

littleflower · Post by **littleflower** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 6:55 pm

gyre wrote:You're so right.
An owner can't influence the coverage and editorial content of his employees because he isn't allowed to fire them and replace them with someone else.

Can't you figure out this anomaly about journalists?
It is precisely because they know what is going on, that they can't support republicans.

corporations like time/warner and GE are "owned" by thousands of people, not a few. and there are thousands of editors and journalists... the corporate heads couldn''t possibly fire them all. they are too busy running the business, and besides, who would write the news? you'd have trouble convincing me that the boards of these media companies are republican anyhow. there are a great many corporate fat cats who are democrats...especially in media.

as for journalists being democrat because they see what's going on ... that's a very simplistic argument. i rarely get through an article without having a great many questions about the conclusions reached by the journalist, many of which seem to me to be based on "conventional wisdom," polls, gross generalities, or unproven hypotheses. my own take is that journalism is a creative occupation, and creative people tend to be more liberal. unfortunately, i got stuck in an unhappy place between my massively educated conservative family and very well educated liberal creative friends. i am so used to being attacked by both sides for one reason or another that i'm forced to look at both sides and reach conclusions accordingly. i know few who bother. but i learn from both.

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 5:50 am

coming to a youtube near you soon....

SARAH PALIN'S DAUGHTER, BRISTOL, ON CAMERA AT AGE 15 SMOKING POT AND LAUGHING THAT HER MOM WAS GOING TO BE THE NEXT GOVERNOR

i like her better already, because her daughter is a pot-head slut....

now that's my kinda girl.

Post by **Elderberry** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 7:44 am

Simon of the Playa wrote:

i like her better already, because her daughter is a pot-head slut....

I originally thought the the fact Bush was a cocaine using party guy might have been his salvation too--then he found religion.

JK

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 10:33 am

Palin Media Blackout Continues

http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/09 ... continues/

by Shushannah Walshe

FOXNews - 28 minutes ago

NEW YORK â€“It has been widely reported that Sarah Palin has yet to give a news conference or even answer a few questions from the traveling press that follow her from city to city on her plane. But, today the Palin camp went to new lengths to control the media, which is covering the GOP Vice-Presidential nominee.

It was decided by the campaign that todayâ€™s meetings with Afghan President Hamid Karzai, Colombian president Alvaro Uribe, and Former Secretary of State Dr. Henry Kissinger would be pooled. This means only one television network with their camera and producer, plus a print reporter, and wire reporters would be let in at the beginning of the meeting and then be ushered out before the leaders and Palin began talking. This is common practice in presidential campaigns, but this morning a little over one hour before the meetings would begin the pool network television producer and print poolers were told they were not allowed to enter the meetings.

This means that the Palin camp has the benefit of pictures of her shaking hands with world leaders and have that video broadcast all over the world, but there would be no risk of her having to answer even one question from a reporter at the beginning of the meetings. It is many television networkâ€™s policy, including Fox News Channel to not provide a camera if an editorial presence is not allowed in. Once the campaign realized that these pictures would not be seen they relented, but the print pool is still not allowed to enter the Karzai event, which is about to begin.

Palin has done two television interviews since her selectionâ€”with ABCâ€™s Charlie Gibson and Fox News Channelâ€™s Sean Hannity. One reporter got close enough to Palin to ask her an impromptu question about the AIG bail-out, but that is the only spontaneous question she has gotten thrown at her since being rolled out as McCainâ€™s number two.

It is traditional for the press traveling with a candidate to have some relationship with the candidate and special access because of all the hours logged on the plane and on the campaign trail. But, Palin still has not come back to answer any questions or talk to her press corps. The only time the press has met the Alaska governor is on her first solo flight three weeks ago and it was off the record. We shook hands with Palin and she was quickly ushered back to the front of the plane behind a gray curtain where she has remained for the three and a half weeks she has been a candidate.

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 12:02 pm

garsh..
I bet that's the first time any of that stuff has been done with, or to, a candidate for office, ...........................

betrdanevr · Post by **betrdanevr** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 1:26 pm

And is that supposed to make it desirable or even remotely "okay?"

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:27 pm

no,
exactly my point............

I hate when people can't hear my tonal inflections and sarcastic enunciations...........

betrdanevr · Post by **betrdanevr** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:35 pm

I heard the sarcasm all right. But I thought you meant that since it wasn't the first time, the Palin camp should be let off the hook. No???

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:36 pm

littleflower wrote:
gyre wrote:Only the gullible and the corrupt would vote for the republican party, so they have to engage in dirty tricks.
It's all they have.
only the seriously deluded would make such a statement. where do you live, in a cave? surrounded by tvs and computers all set to leftist propaganda? do you even know any republicans?

anyone could get lost in his own little world, gyre. you sound like a very nice person ... please try to understand others ... it's a very big world out there.

Ummmm, care to do any rethinking?

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 4:22 pm

betrdanevr wrote:I heard the sarcasm all right. But I thought you meant that since it wasn't the first time, the Palin camp should be let off the hook. No???

nope:
I think my only point was that this happens on both sides, and, a lot.......the media twists one way, the candidate the other (sometimes), and, it's a tug of war.
Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose......

It just seemed that point was made to look like Palin, et al, are the only ones that do that sort of thing, and, that the media is only doing that to her.

I just like to see both sides painted with the same brush........

Of course, this comes from a disenfranchised politico, now anarchist, who, is embarrassed by both parties and their puppets, sock and otherwise.......

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 4:29 pm

ygmir wrote:
I just like to see both sides painted with the same brush........

Of course, this comes from a disenfranchised politico, now anarchist, who, is embarrassed by both parties and their puppets, sock and otherwise.......

Wait a minute.......Did I say already that politics is for suckers?

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 4:40 pm

did you say "suckers" or "sockers", and, if so, who's the goalie?, or, who's on thier knees the most?
Oh wait, is it real if you say it anyway?
Or, was that a homophobic slur, a poke (grin) at Barney Frank or the Idaho senator who's name escapes me?

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 7:28 pm

wonderphil · Post by **wonderphil** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:25 pm

az: more on your last post

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/19/us/po ... evens.html

wonderphil · Post by **wonderphil** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:44 pm

littleflower wrote:
you (CA) are the first to suggest that republicans are more eloquent than democrats. bush is such a fine example, isn't he?

Yes, case closed; CA is guilty of spreading bull shit - again

wonderphil · Post by **wonderphil** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:00 pm

Simon of the Playa wrote:coming to a youtube near you soon....

SARAH PALIN'S DAUGHTER, BRISTOL, ON CAMERA AT AGE 15 SMOKING POT AND LAUGHING THAT HER MOM WAS GOING TO BE THE NEXT GOVERNOR

i like her better already, because her daughter is a pot-head slut....

now that's my kinda girl.

Thank you Simon! Your post is right the fuck on! (assuming your facts are true which I do not) but if they are true;
She will fit in very well with the rest of our BM community. Your post confirms that this girl has an open mind like most of us do.

Or did you mean to say something else; such as we are wrong to have an open mind?

littleflower · Post by **littleflower** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:17 pm

DVD Burner wrote:
littleflower wrote:
gyre wrote:Only the gullible and the corrupt would vote for the republican party, so they have to engage in dirty tricks.
It's all they have.
only the seriously deluded would make such a statement. where do you live, in a cave? surrounded by tvs and computers all set to leftist propaganda? do you even know any republicans?

anyone could get lost in his own little world, gyre. you sound like a very nice person ... please try to understand others ... it's a very big world out there.

Ummmm, care to do any rethinking?

you are right, that was a very nasty post, and i do apologize. but the main point still holds ... republicans are NOT all a bunch of stupid, corrupt, greedy, &c sheep. they are coming from a different place, is all. i know people on all sides who transcend the stereotypes, and i don't exactly look for them.

wonderphil · Post by **wonderphil** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:56 pm

littleflower wrote:
DVD Burner wrote:
littleflower wrote: only the seriously deluded would make such a statement. where do you live, in a cave? surrounded by tvs and computers all set to leftist propaganda? do you even know any republicans?

anyone could get lost in his own little world, gyre. you sound like a very nice person ... please try to understand others ... it's a very big world out there.

Ummmm, care to do any rethinking?
you are right, that was a very nasty post, and i do apologize. but the main point still holds ... republicans are NOT all a bunch of stupid, corrupt, greedy, &c sheep. they are coming from a different place, is all. i know people on all sides who transcend the stereotypes, and i don't exactly look for them.

Little Flower, I am sad to see you go PC. I thought your original post was spot on and needs to be said. There are several other suspects who may live, in a cave? surrounded by tvs and computers all set to leftist propaganda? and who do not even know any people who have a different opinion. That is sad that they have a closed mind and you were right to point that out.

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 11:03 pm

no phil, you missed the point.

what i meant to imply is that Republicans are shit-sucking hypocrites. the girl was 15 yrs old.

oh, the info is correct by the way.

wonderphil · Post by **wonderphil** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 11:29 pm

Simon of the Playa wrote:no phil, you missed the point.

what i meant to imply is that Republicans are shit-sucking hypocrites. the girl was 15 yrs old.

oh, the info is correct by the way.

I do not speak for the repugs, but I could really give a rats ass about what the girl thinks or said. After all she is 15 years old, a kid who does not have a clue, so what you say, it is only another low life attack on the personal life of a Obamanation opponent.

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:32 am

wonderphil wrote:
Simon of the Playa wrote:no phil, you missed the point.

what i meant to imply is that Republicans are shit-sucking hypocrites. the girl was 15 yrs old.

oh, the info is correct by the way.
I do not speak for the repugs, but I could really give a rats ass about what the girl thinks or said. After all she is 15 years old, a kid who does not have a clue, so what you say, it is only another low life attack on the personal life of a Obamanation opponent.

So from uuuh what you posted.......uuummmm.......I gather you're not gonna vote for Obama?

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 1:34 am

I do not speak for the repugs,

yeah, and Rush Limbaugh was'nt the Largest Buyer of illicit OxyContins in Palm Beach County FLA.

if it looks like shit, smells like shit and tastes like shit, must be a republican.

lurker · Post by **lurker** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 7:00 am

They're ALL hypocrites, Simon, they ALL smell like shit. The second you go from being someone trying to help to being a politician you leap into the shit.

And parties--reps, dems, greens, socialists, libertarians, whatever name they attach to themselves are the generators of that shit. They're the assholes that pump it out.

Because every damned one of them is only in it to perpetuate themselves.

Know what I'd like to see? Someone, from any party, who's in it to do the damned job. Whose only re-election campaign consists of a single ad that goes something like this...

"Hi, I'm ________, I'm your ___________. I could be out wasting my time, your time and YOUR money campaigning, answering whatever ads anyone else who wants this office puts out. I'm not gonna do that. Instead, I'm gonna do the job I was elected to do--which doesn't include spending your money trying to get myself another term. I think I'm doing a good job, and if you think so too, you'll re-elect me. If you don't think I've been doing a good job them I've got no right to spend your money trying to convince you otherwise. I truly hope you'll let me continue to work for you. Thank you.

I'm ________________ and I approved this message."

THAT is what it really means to put neighborhood, school district, town, city, state or country FIRST.

unjonharley · Post by **unjonharley** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:17 am

E-mail message

From: [email protected](unjon harley) Date: Wed, Sep 24, 2008, 9:11am To: [email protected] Subject: OK
I'm a little confused. Let me see if I have this straight.....

If you grow up in Hawaii, raised by your grandparents, you're 'exotic, different.'
Grow up in Alaska eating mooseburgers, a quintessential American story.

If your name is Barack you're a radical, unpatriotic Muslim. Name your kids Willow, Trig and Track, you're a maverick.
Graduate from Harvard law School and you are unstable.
Attend 5 different small colleges before graduating, you're well
grounded.

If you spend 3 years as a brilliant community organizer, become the first black President of the Harvard Law Review, create a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters, spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law professor, spend 8 years as a State Senator representing a district with over 750,000 people, become chairman of the state Senate's Health and Human Services committee, spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a state of 13 million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran's Affairs committees, you don't have any real leadership experience.

If your total resume is: local weather girl, 4 years on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with less than 7,000 people, 20 months as the governor of a state with only 650,000 people, then you're qualified to become the country's second highest ranking executive.

If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while raising 2 beautiful daughters, all within Protestant churches, you're not a real Christian.

If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, and left your disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month, you're a Christian.

If you teach responsible, age appropriate sex education, including the proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society.

If, while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence only, with no other option in sex education in your state's school system while your unwed teen daughter ends up pregnant, you're very responsible.

If your wife is a Harvard graduate lawyer who gave up a position in a prestigious law firm to work for the betterment of her inner city community, then gave that up to raise a family, your family's values don't represent America 's.

If you're husband is nicknamed 'First Dude', with at least one DWI conviction and no college education, who didn't register to vote until age 25 and once was a member of a group that advocated the secession of Alaska
from the USA, your family is extremely admirable.

OK, much clearer now

lurker · Post by **lurker** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:34 am

If you grow up in Hawaii, raised by your grandparents, you're 'exotic, different.'
Grow up in Alaska eating mooseburgers,ï¿½ aï¿½quintessential American story.