How long will the voter buy the Republican Lies!

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:12 pm

Carl Rove repeats the longest standing mantra/lie of the republicans:

Lower Taxes- wait till they have to pay for the cus that generated the-

Budget Balance- the greatist budget deficit ever is GW Bush's legacy.

Smaller Government- Never has government reached levels of the current administration. It is bigger and still growing like the blob monster.

International Police state= America is more involved with more military interventions in more countries then ever before creating the new Roman era of occupation.

Hey Joel! See the perpetual lie of the Republicans. Show me the facts that prove that republicans are what you say!

Historical Cites please!

Romey Money or McCain Cain will not change a thang!

Barrack Attack!

AIIZ

Toolmaker · Post by **Toolmaker** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:43 pm

How long will the voter buy the Republican Lies?

Roughly the same amount of time they buy the Democratic lies.

If I win what do I get?

cowboyangel · Post by **cowboyangel** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:58 pm

$$$$$ runs everything dudes. It kills to protect itself and runs the real biz of washington. Truth is we've been taken over a long time ago. Listen to Rev. Billy. Stop Shopping.

Box Burner · Post by **Box Burner** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:01 am

At least as long as they buy the democrat lies.

I' vote for Thomas Jefferson if he were still around.

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:01 am

Box Burner wrote:At least as long as they buy the democrat lies.

I' vote for Thomas Jefferson if he were still around.

These days he'd either have to lie to get into office or remain retired.

Public funding for campaigns or nothing!

DJ Dominus · Post by **DJ Dominus** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:41 pm

Seriously, until people figure out (again) that politicians and our government are not something to be trusted, we are all fuct. I don't know what kind of uneducated retards actually think this is a red v blue, dem v repub, contest. It's a "we the people" v the government. "Our" representatives should be just that, ours.

can't sit still · Post by **can't sit still** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:26 pm

Just as Dominus says; it's reached a point where it's "we the people" against GOV. We're adversaries. We get tasered for speaking up, jailed for dissenting. We get laws to muzzle us against the slightest protest. We become enemy combatants for disagreeing,,, you don't need to wave a weapon. If we tire of killing millions of people to protect Israel, we become some new brand of traitors.
The lies have to keep coming. It doesn't matter if it comes out of the ass end of a donkey or an elephant.
The US comptroller-general says that we already have 52 trillion in unfunded debt. Clinton has promised us universal medical coverage. The current drug plan is a budget-buster. They might as well lie, lies are free The truth would cost more than we could ever pay.

The constitution guarantees us representative government. That's a dead issue.
The constitution tells us to resort to arms to throw off a repressive government. I don't see that happening very soon. Timothy Mcveigh had an answer.
The lies have always been there. They won't stop any time soon. GOV is only looking out for the interests of GOV. With a plan like that, how could they possibly tell the truth?

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:31 am

Toolmaker wrote:How long will the voter buy the Republican Lies?

Roughly the same amount of time they buy the Democratic lies.

If I win what do I get?

You were pretty quick with that.

pinemom · Post by **pinemom** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:51 am

what ever happened to silly little Ross Perot...
I was actually gonna vote for him till he went all silly...

madmatt · Post by **madmatt** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 4:17 pm

Americans get the leaders they (secretly) want or deserve, and which are a great reflection of the people themselves. Sad...

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 7:48 pm

FYI--I've given up on this thread. I don't think it's ever gonna get interesting. Call me if it does.

Ranger Genius · Post by **Ranger Genius** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:04 am

Are we down to one voter? Let's find him and kick his ass.

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 9:34 am

If, Bush=McCain
And, Palin=Bush
Therefore C=D

Time for a break boys and girls, Recess or Regress

AIIZ

Box Burner · Post by **Box Burner** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 9:59 am

The difference between politicians and us regular folk is that politicians fart at both ends.

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:11 am

McCain: "Our economy I think, still, the fundamentals of our economy are strong."

Hey, it's not a stock market crash - they're having a sale on stocks!

Marscrumbs · Post by **Marscrumbs** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:46 am

I've come to the conclusion that this is a contest between the lizzard brains and mammalian thinking. Lizzardbrains can't process mammalian cortical reasoning and the mammal's can't understand why the lizzards don't get it. It probably will take another asteroid collision before we can straighten this all out.

madmatt · Post by **madmatt** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:50 am

Ugly Dougly wrote:
Box Burner wrote:At least as long as they buy the democrat lies.

I' vote for Thomas Jefferson if he were still around.
These days he'd either have to lie to get into office or remain retired.

Public funding for campaigns or nothing!

The most basic core problem is VOTER APATHY!

I don't have easy answers on how to get voter turnout higher, but if it were as high as in other democracies, things would be much, much different.

All the questions of the role of the media, the role of public education teaching people about politics, the manipulation and lies that campaigns and politicians and interest groups put out there, the HUGE role that corporate funded interest groups and lobbies have......

All of it would not have such a large influence if MORE PEOPLE VOTED.

VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:01 am

well said

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 1:22 pm

madmatt wrote:[

The most basic core problem is VOTER APATHY!

I don't have easy answers on how to get voter turnout higher, but if it were as high as in other democracies, things would be much, much different.ou

All of it would not have such a large influence if MORE PEOPLE VOTED.

VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE

Tax Day and the election should fall on the same day.

Once you hand in your income tax forms, you can then vote!

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 1:28 pm

good idea, it'd sure make people think about who they're voting for and how that person spends "their" money.........

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 2:14 pm

Marscrumbs wrote:I've come to the conclusion that this is a contest between the lizzard brains and mammalian thinking. Lizzardbrains can't process mammalian cortical reasoning and the mammal's can't understand why the lizzards don't get it. It probably will take another asteroid collision before we can straighten this all out.

Younger voters = Democrats
Older voters = Republicans
(for the most part)
So it's a matter of time.

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 2:26 pm

Ugly Dougly wrote:
Marscrumbs wrote:I've come to the conclusion that this is a contest between the lizzard brains and mammalian thinking. Lizzardbrains can't process mammalian cortical reasoning and the mammal's can't understand why the lizzards don't get it. It probably will take another asteroid collision before we can straighten this all out.
Younger voters = Democrats
Older voters = Republicans
(for the most part)
So it's a matter of time.

those that don't have, but, want vs those that have and want to keep,
I'd say that's also valid.

idealists vs pragmatists.......too

Both good, both valid, differing POV's........though.......

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 3:40 pm

Hey republicans get a life and belly up to reality: quit your party, its fucked and this X- repub knows the truth...

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/05/magaz ... -t.html?hp

"It was 1995, and he was a freshman Republican congressman from Virginia, swept into office by Newt Gingrichâ€™s revolution. â€œWhat a thrill,â€

Post by **Elderberry** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 4:07 pm

Apollonaris Zeus wrote:Hey republicans get a life and belly up to reality: quit your party, its fucked and this X- repub knows the truth...

...

The party platform is a fucking lie and you morons have bought it all.

The economy is collapsing and so is the Republican party

Davis speaks the truth on how he too was sucked in!

AIIZ

Interesting read; and so true.

JK

littleflower · Post by **littleflower** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 6:20 pm

interesting, yes, but please note the last line ...

Then again, another Senate seat is up in 2012. â€œI can step back in it if I want â€” if theyâ€™re looking for a problem solver,â€

Post by **Elderberry** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 6:36 pm

littleflower wrote:... but somehow i don't expect the NY times to do a similar story on a disaffected democrat.

With just 17 little words you manage to blow all of your credibility.

JK

littleflower · Post by **littleflower** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 6:41 pm

jkisha wrote:
littleflower wrote:... but somehow i don't expect the NY times to do a similar story on a disaffected democrat.
With just 17 little words you manage to blow all of your credibility.

JK

i didn't know i had any to lose, actually...

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 7:28 pm

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Sun Oct 05, 2008 9:36 am

littleflower wrote:
NEITHER party. indeed, i suspect the democrats are even worse... but somehow i don't expect the NY times to do a similar story on a disaffected democrat. the dems have been in control for 2 years now, and have managed to do very little...

Interesting on that works.

Bush vetoes no bills during the Republican's control of congress.

Dems gain control of congress and now bush vetoes almost every bill written by Dems.

I guess you call yourself Littleflower because you are young. Give yourself a few years and also if you are above the average intelligent person and you too will figure out these things.

AIIZ

PS- littleflower you can make yourself valuable by voting on whether or not you like to take it up the ass

littleflower · Post by **littleflower** » Sun Oct 05, 2008 12:18 pm

i don't suppose it has ever occurred to you that the democrats might write bills they know bush will veto in order to make the republicans look partisan? that is a tool, you know.... one among many ...

but, as i said, it looks like a shake-up will happen ... and in 4 years blaming bush will be very stale. i will be as happy as anyone if everything gets better. but you ... if things get worse, even much much worse, i have little doubt that you will still be trumpeting the old anti-republican line. it's all you know ...

besides extremely tasteless polls, i mean ...

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