Election Coverage Rants (Try to keep it amusing, please.)

Post by **Elderberry** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:34 pm

littleflower wrote:sorry, JK ... i have seen a lot of concession speeches, and the losing side almost always boos the winning side...

you always, always think you know what *would* have happened ...

in fact, had mccain won, obama would almost certainly not have conceded, and the democrats would be busy trying to steal the election, just like they did in 2004. kerry stopped it then, to his credit... but it took him a little while, and his supporters were not happy about it. i almost wanted obama to win just to avoid another such scene ... i am very relieved to-day...

but you ... you are so blinded by partisanship ...

emotion and politics are a dangerous combination, IMO.

but i do hope you enjoy your day ... and now, you can get back to work!

blah blah blah, blah blah blah, blah blah.

JK

littleflower · Post by **littleflower** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:00 pm

jkisha wrote: blah blah blah, blah blah blah, blah blah.

JK

at least you came up with something new for once ... you've been like a broken record to-day...

Post by **Elderberry** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:04 pm

littleflower wrote:
jkisha wrote: blah blah blah, blah blah blah, blah blah.

JK
at least you came up with something new for once ... you've been like a broken record to-day...

That was the only response I thought your post worthy of.

JK

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:21 pm

jkisha wrote:
littleflower wrote:
jkisha wrote: blah blah blah, blah blah blah, blah blah.

JK
at least you came up with something new for once ... you've been like a broken record to-day...
That was the only response I thought your post worthy of.

JK

littleflower · Post by **littleflower** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:22 pm

you know, JK ... i was very happy this morning until i saw this directed at me:

too bad your man and woman lost!

A point of observation on the make up of supporters:

McCain mentions Obama in his defeat speech: Booooos!

Obama mentions McCain in his victory speech: Yeaaaaa!

I dislike poor losers and un-humbled winners

this just sounded to me like a fine example of an un-humbled winner, pot meet kettle moment...

i expect this sort of thing from AZ, so it really didn't bug me much. but i was amazed to see you to jump into his stupid shit puddle.

i know you are a jumble of hangover and mixed elation/disappointment to-day, but honestly ... i am very willing to let the winners gloat ... why not let the losers be grumpy? you can be very gracious .... why not to-day...?

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 3:57 pm

ygmir wrote: If the Dems don't make our country a veritable utopia, as has been implied they would..........well, they may just be humans after all......

since the demos didn't win control of both houses as I said before for Obama to do what is really needed to get this country back on track. Therefore, I expect a lot of filibusters to throw the monkey wrenches to clog the process. Obama said as much in his acceptance speech.

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:04 pm

Apollonaris Zeus wrote:
ygmir wrote: If the Dems don't make our country a veritable utopia, as has been implied they would..........well, they may just be humans after all......
since the demos didn't win control of both houses as I said before for Obama to do what is really needed to get this country back on track. Therefore, I expect a lot of filibusters to throw the monkey wrenches to clog the process. Obama said as much in his acceptance speech.

I thought they do have control of both houses......am I wrong?

ah, so does that indicate some back peddling?
Were the promises made with the (I think you meant filibuster proof 60% majority) caveat of total one party rule and control? I don't remember him saying that, IIRC he just said he'd do it..........

Of course, maybe I heard him wrong.........

Post by **Elderberry** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:19 pm

Apollonaris Zeus wrote:
ygmir wrote: If the Dems don't make our country a veritable utopia, as has been implied they would..........well, they may just be humans after all......
since the demos didn't win control of both houses as I said before for Obama to do what is really needed to get this country back on track. Therefore, I expect a lot of filibusters to throw the monkey wrenches to clog the process. Obama said as much in his acceptance speech.

Didn't the Senate get 56? And there are two independants that caucus with the Dems making 58; and I think there might be at least two Republicans that the Dems could persuade on important votes to make 60, no?

JK

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:20 pm

Right! filibuster proof majority

Its the only sure way to get what is needed.

Without it and you have buy out the side and a simple bill becomes the porkbarrel from hell

unjonharley · Post by **unjonharley** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:43 pm

Obama woke this morning and asked for a recount.

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:55 pm

unjonharley wrote:Obama woke this morning and asked for a recount.

didn't his checkbook balance?

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:56 pm

Apollonaris Zeus wrote:Right! filibuster proof majority

Its the only sure way to get what is needed.

Without it and you have buy out the side and a simple bill becomes the porkbarrel from hell

do you think a filibuster proof majority would stop porkbarrel spending?........

dr.placebo · Post by **dr.placebo** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 5:17 pm

Obama won through conservative values: hard work, personal discipline, and pragmatism. He also won through progressive values: community organizing, social justice, and tolerance. Both the Democrats and the Republicans should learn from this campaign.

lonestoner916 · Post by **lonestoner916** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 5:29 pm

She even threw in a "please." I am not amused. Why all the petty bickering, are you incapable of intelligent debate?

Prop 2 passed, and yet prop 5 did not. This means that we will continue to lock up drug offenders in our already overcrowded prisons, where they will now be subject to worse treatment than farm animals. I guess it's true about how the more things change, the more they stay the same...

Prop 6 would have provided some much needed funding for police and other law enforcement. We shot it down. When your neighbor breaks into your house and steals all your shit while you're out looking for work, desperate because his house is in foreclosure, he just got laid off, and he badly needs to support his newly formed crack habit, don't whine to me when 9-1-1 gives you a busy signal.

NO gay marriage
NO prostitution in San Francisco (this one was pretty close though)
NO renewable energy
NO alternative fuel

YES ON THE REALLY FAST CHOO-CHOO TRAIN!

The people have spoken!
Or maybe that was just a belch, I wasn't really listening. Dancing With the Stars was on!

Post by **Elderberry** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 7:00 pm

dr.placebo wrote:Obama won through conservative values: hard work, personal discipline, and pragmatism. He also won through progressive values: community organizing, social justice, and tolerance. Both the Democrats and the Republicans should learn from this campaign.

Sounds like the deadlines have been met and you are back to posting again. Good to see you back.

JK

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 7:05 pm

South Park spoofing the election night right now!

Yes we can!

Post by **Elderberry** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 7:10 pm

Apollonaris Zeus wrote:South Park spoofing the election night right now!

Yes we can!

Damn, I don't get that station.

JK

wedeliver · Post by **wedeliver** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 7:30 pm

jkisha wrote:
Apollonaris Zeus wrote:South Park spoofing the election night right now!

Yes we can!
Damn, I don't get that station.

JK

www.allsp.com

("don't get that station" thats funny)

and I hope this takes care of your south park fix.

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 7:32 pm

Yes, maybe its all going to be alright

That's my last post on the political scene for a while. Hey there's the market to watch!

Have fun everyone!

AIIZ

ps- there should be a rerun later tonight and then everyday several times until next week

Post by **Elderberry** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 8:04 pm

wedeliver wrote:
www.allsp.com

("don't get that station" thats funny)

and I hope this takes care of your south park fix.

Thanks for the link.

JK

goathead · Post by **goathead** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:42 pm

ygmir wrote:
jkisha wrote:
littleflower wrote: at least you came up with something new for once ... you've been like a broken record to-day...
That was the only response I thought your post worthy of.

JK

Sounds like a date for Thunderdome.

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:03 am

Apollonaris Zeus wrote:Hey there's the market to watch!

Is the sale still on? Lots of bargains, people!

dr.placebo · Post by **dr.placebo** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:03 am

Just to add to the amusement:

Just minutes after their party's longstanding losing tradition lay in tatters on the ground, millions of shell-shocked Democrats stared at their television screens in disbelief, asking themselves what went right.

For Democrats, who have become accustomed to their party blowing an election even when it seemed like a sure thing, Tuesday night's results were a bitter pill to swallow.

http://www.borowitzreport.com/article.aspx?ID=6957

goathead · Post by **goathead** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:36 am

dr.placebo wrote:Obama won through conservative values: hard work, personal discipline, and pragmatism. He also won through progressive values: community organizing, social justice, and tolerance. Both the Democrats and the Republicans should learn from this campaign.

Not to mention a LOT OF FUCKING MONEY
And the good old Chicago political machine....

Then there is the old saying something about
hmmmm
baffle, bullshit, dazzle, brilliance....

I do really enjoy listening to him talk.
He does have one hell of a lot of charisma.

dr.placebo · Post by **dr.placebo** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 12:02 pm

goathead wrote: Not to mention a LOT OF FUCKING MONEY
And the good old Chicago political machine....

It's worth looking at how Obama got the money. A large percentage of it came from a lot of small donors. The traditional big donors also gave a lot, but that would not have been sufficient.

The Chicago political machine helped him get started, but the size of this campaign, even in the primaries, rather quickly went beyond Chicago politics. So, it was crucial at the start, but not so much after the first few primary wins.

Obama also won because of the "ground game." He had more volunteers and they were more motivated. He got most of those volunteers because of who he is and what he stood for, not because they had party loyalty.

And the one thing I will always thank George W. Bush for is that he was a complete incompetent that an African-American finally stood a chance to win the Presidency.

goathead · Post by **goathead** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 12:23 pm

dr.placebo wrote:
goathead wrote: Not to mention a LOT OF FUCKING MONEY
And the good old Chicago political machine....
It's worth looking at how Obama got the money. A large percentage of it came from a lot of small donors. The traditional big donors also gave a lot, but that would not have been sufficient.

The Chicago political machine helped him get started, but the size of this campaign, even in the primaries, rather quickly went beyond Chicago politics. So, it was crucial at the start, but not so much after the first few primary wins.

Obama also won because of the "ground game." He had more volunteers and they were more motivated. He got most of those volunteers because of who he is and what he stood for, not because they had party loyalty.

And the one thing I will always thank George W. Bush for is that he was a complete incompetent that an African-American finally stood a chance to win the Presidency.

The Chicago political machine, Is there something about "pencil whipping" numbers you do not understand?

Don't get me wrong I expected him to win. 8 years of one party is a LONG TIME.....

But he is still a POLITICIAN, a dam GOOD ONE, with a great speaking ability. I really do enjoy listening to him....

I just don't fucking agree with him on many issues.

I wish him luck. If he does a good job I will support him...

Let's see how he does.

Loosen up by the way.
This is the fucking EPLAYA after all.

Don't worry a good heart felt
FUCK OFF GH
Is taken in the spirit it is given in.

Or not in which case well...

Sail Man · Post by **Sail Man** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 2:06 pm

Simon of the Playa wrote:Good Job America, I'm proud of my Country today in ways i was'nt before.

It truly was Historic, and whether you are Democrat or Republican, at the end of the day we are all Americans, and thats the most important thing if we are to face and solve the problems that lay before us.

it sounds corny, but i too shed a tear briefly knowing that at least we are now truly on our way to a colorblind Nation.

One Nation, Under God, Indivisible, with Liberty, and Justice for ALL.

there, no snark, no bark, it is a new day.

Wow Simon!

pulse check, yeah, ok, got one of those. respirations? yeah, still breathing

Jeezus H Simon, you almost shocked me to death, you big softy.

Through that tough snarky skin lies a honorable heart of gold. Awwwww

Somebody give him a hug.....

d6 · Post by d6 » Thu Nov 06, 2008 2:18 pm

How i spent election day:

http://www.hotshottherobot.com/pictures ... 20Protest/

goathead · Post by **goathead** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 2:42 pm

Sail Man wrote:
Simon of the Playa wrote:Good Job America, I'm proud of my Country today in ways i was'nt before.

It truly was Historic, and whether you are Democrat or Republican, at the end of the day we are all Americans, and thats the most important thing if we are to face and solve the problems that lay before us.

it sounds corny, but i too shed a tear briefly knowing that at least we are now truly on our way to a colorblind Nation.

One Nation, Under God, Indivisible, with Liberty, and Justice for ALL.

there, no snark, no bark, it is a new day.
Wow Simon!

pulse check, yeah, ok, got one of those. respirations? yeah, still breathing

Jeezus H Simon, you almost shocked me to death, you big softy.

Through that tough snarky skin lies a honorable heart of gold. Awwwww

Somebody give him a hug.....

We all know better....
Fooled by the SOCK OF SIMON.....

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:26 am

Ah, again you're wrong, Mr. Miller...

i dont hide behind any socks or even playa names...never have...i've always been simon.

My name is my name is my name, and i suffer the repercussions of my actions and words because i can be held accountable.

Can anyone else on E-Playa say that?

what are you afraid of? why the need to Disguise?

i'm afraid that, even though i am a Never-Sandal, and an Adamant Flip-Flop non-wearing man-toe hating kind of guy, here on e-playa i dont wear 'socks'.

Election Coverage Rants (Try to keep it amusing, please.)

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