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MOXIE
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believe is false."- William Casey, CIA Director 1981
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Great post CBA, here's another one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moxie
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moxie
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believe is false."- William Casey, CIA Director 1981
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Moxie Outsold Coca Cola!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.jphs.org/20thcentury/moxie-s ... -cola.html
http://www.jphs.org/20thcentury/moxie-s ... -cola.html
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This was very big in the northeast 40-50 years ago. It's still made today, but the numbers are way down. If you can find it in a grocery store, they only have a small section for it. It has kind of a strong taste, and it takes a bit getting used to. Kids think it tastes like cough syrup, but I really enjoy it.jkisha wrote:I never heard of it before. What part of the country was it marketed in?
JK
After seeing the post today, I had to drink a bottle of it.
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Don't you know it impolite to point at people!Shambala wrote:Who doesn't love Moxie! It's not only an iconic tonic, but it's avatarishly cool! :roll:
The government always know how to ruin a great concoction- The Food and Drug Act demanded ingredient changes for Moxie twice. In 1906, cocaine was outlawed and in the early 1960s sassafras was banned. Gentian root and wintergreen remain as ingredients, maintaining the original taste.
GEntian Root and wintergreen is boring!
Lots of sassafras growning on the east coast. Maybe I'll get that old chemistry set out from college.
Commercial "sassafras oil" generally is a by-product of camphor production in Asia or comes from related trees in Brazil. Safrole is a precursor for the clandestine manufacture of the drug MDMA (ecstasy)
Safrole, a colorless or slightly yellow oil, extracted from the root-bark or the fruit of sassafras plants is the primary precursor for all manufacture of MDMA. There are numerous synthetic methods available in the literature to convert safrole into MDMA via different intermediates. One common route is via the MDP2P (3,4-methylenedioxyphenyl-2-propanone, also known as piperonyl acetone) intermediate. This intermediate can be produced in at least two different ways. One method is to isomerize safrole in the presence of a strong base to isosafrole and then oxidize isosafrole to MDP2P. Another, reportedly better method, is to make use of the Wacker process to oxidize safrole directly to the MDP2P (3,4-methylenedioxy phenyl-2-propanone) intermediate. This can be done with a palladium catalyst. Once the MDP2P intermediate has been produced it is then consumed via a reductive amination to form MDMA as the product.

In the United States, MDMA was legal and unregulated until May 31, 1985, at which time it was emergency scheduled to DEA Schedule I, for drugs deemed to have no medical uses and a high potential for abuse. During DEA hearings to schedule MDMA, most experts recommended DEA Schedule III prescription status for the drug, due to beneficial usage of MDMA in psychotherapy. The judge overseeing the hearings, Francis Young, also recommended that MDMA be placed in Schedule III. Nonetheless, the DEA chose to ignore the ruling of its own Administrative Law Judge and unilaterally classified MDMA as Schedule I.[43] In 2001, responding to a mandate from the U.S. Congress, the U.S. Sentencing Commission, resulted in an increase in the penalties for MDMA by nearly 3,000%,[44] despite scientific protest calling for a decrease in the penalties for MDMA possession and distribution.[45] The increase makes 1 gram of MDMA (four pills at 250 mg per pill's total weight regardless of purity, standard for Federal charges) equivalent to 1 gram of heroin (approximately fifty doses) or 2.2 pounds (1 kg) of marijuana for sentencing purposes at the federal level.
I really hate the DEA!
And Moxie does taste like Bitters
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You should be able to get it now, I would think:wedeliver wrote:Here on the West Coast, in Los Angeles, Santa Monica there was Zuckies Deli and the drink I loved there was
Although I understand that it was a Chicago beverage that was not nationally produced.
http://www.drpeppersnapplegroup.com/brands/vernors/
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I just scored! Found an old moxie bottle in an dump that dates back to the 1860's. Found it just lying on the ground and in good condition with raised embossed Moxie on it. 7 oz size slightly green!
Worth about $16
Gotta go back someday and do some digging and maybe find some of those miracle elixirs!
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Worth about $16
Gotta go back someday and do some digging and maybe find some of those miracle elixirs!
AIIZ
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But it is still available. And so much better than Canada Dry or any of that crap. I don't know how it compares to the modern ginger beers.wedeliver wrote:Here on the West Coast, in Los Angeles, Santa Monica there was Zuckies Deli and the drink I loved there was
Although I understand that it was a Chicago beverage that was not nationally produced.
And never buy ginger ale in an aluminum can. You can just about taste the alzheimer's on the back of your tongue.
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*struggles to withhold humor, my own sense of same...*theCryptofishist wrote:But it is still available. And so much better than Canada Dry or any of that crap. I don't know how it compares to the modern ginger beers.wedeliver wrote:Here on the West Coast, in Los Angeles, Santa Monica there was Zuckies Deli and the drink I loved there was
Although I understand that it was a Chicago beverage that was not nationally produced.
And never buy ginger ale in an aluminum can. You can just about taste the alzheimer's on the back of your tongue.
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it's pretty typical for a drug to get scheduled according to it's potential for abuse and not necessarily for its potential for use in medicine.Shambala wrote:
I really hate the DEA!
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in oregon, they scheduled pseudoephedrine for it's potential for abuse. In some states they just made it prescription only. but here, they felt it necessary to controll on a higher lvl.
see also marajuana, which is common knowledge enough that i don't feel i need to ellaborate.
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