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The Rave Act?....

Post by Rabbi Dali Rick » Thu Apr 16, 2009 8:50 am

this passed in 2003 on the back of one of the child protection bills as an add in, championed by Fienstien. I'm a little worried about holding burning type of event not only because of the excessive fines but because they can also confiscate my property. This is one of the issues the Water Woman group is being careful about in selecting their location. Has this been relaxed because of the Obama admin?


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Post by wedeliver » Thu Apr 16, 2009 9:03 am

Humm, very interesting.

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The Illicit Drug Anti-Proliferation Act is a United States federal law enacted on April 30, 2003. A substantially similar Act was proposed during the previous Congress as the Reducing Americans' Vulnerability to Ecstasy Act (RAVE Act).



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unknown and to me interesting as to why the law is not printed at Wiki
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Post by Elderberry » Thu Apr 16, 2009 9:07 am

Interesting. I wasn't aware of this one. Another time and money wasting law on the books to help us lose the 'war on drugs'. They have about as much hope in stopping drug use as they would stopping sex. Both are quite pleasurable when done right, and people are motivated by anything that is feels good. It's difficult, if not impossible to change human nature. :(

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Post by wedeliver » Thu Apr 16, 2009 9:13 am

Rabbi Dali Rick wrote:..... I'm a little worried about holding burning type of event.....
I think we are an authorized RAVE since we have our BLM "Permit To Party" (POP).
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Post by Apollonaris Zeus » Thu Apr 16, 2009 10:17 am

It's one of those feel good laws that politicians pass. It has only circumvented peoples right to Legally assemble.

You have to watch out for those Democratic Fascists!

I say party on and let them get a warrent to enter your property. You have a right and it's been defended in a court that you aren't responsible for the actions that individuals participate. I would be more worried about underage drinking then a few X'ers and who you invite.

We might have a narc or two on eplaya that pose as your best friends.

Reducing Americans' Vulnerability to Ecstasy Act No Thank You!

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Post by ygmir » Thu Apr 16, 2009 10:57 am

wedeliver wrote:
Rabbi Dali Rick wrote:..... I'm a little worried about holding burning type of event.....
I think we are an authorized RAVE since we have our BLM "Permit To Party" (POP).
POP?........
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Post by ygmir » Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:01 am

Apollonaris Zeus wrote:It's one of those feel good laws that politicians pass. It has only circumvented peoples right to Legally assemble.

You have to watch out for those Democratic Fascists!

I say party on and let them get a warrent to enter your property. You have a right and it's been defended in a court that you aren't responsible for the actions that individuals participate. I would be more worried about underage drinking then a few X'ers and who you invite.

We might have a narc or two on eplaya that pose as your best friends.

Reducing Americans' Vulnerability to Ecstasy Act No Thank You!

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I'd add "watch out for the government" (fascist or whatever) in general.......
for some time now, it hasn't really mattered, IMHO, what party is in power, our rights and freedoms are eroding at an ever increasing rate.....
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Post by Apollonaris Zeus » Thu Apr 16, 2009 12:38 pm

If this is the basis of the act:

To prohibit an individual from knowingly opening, maintaining, managing, controlling, renting, leasing, making available for use, or profiting from any place for the purpose of manufacturing, distributing, or using any controlled substance, and for other purposes. Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

Among the items listed in the "Findings" section include statements regarding rave promoters providing "chill rooms" and bottled water for large fees, where participants can go and cool down from the body-temperature-raising effects of ecstasy; and selling "neon glow sticks; massage oils; menthol nasal inhalers; and pacifiers that are used to combat the involuntary teeth clenching associated with ecstasy

Rebbi, just don't provide any of the above and your good to go, Mr Rebbi Raver!

I'm sure many of you recall that before this law was written, our friends at the DEA send some X to a lab for testing on animals in which they found that X is just as bad as Meth. Those finding were used in during the presentation to promote this law. Many people believe that the DEA knew fully that the results of X wouldn have been benigh prompting them to act. Especially in a time when more important issues were at hand- like terrorism! To date, I can't find a single post-mordum exam supporting the X-death connection.

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Post by Apollonaris Zeus » Thu Apr 16, 2009 12:50 pm

Sorry, the MS virtual machine code was corrupted. Everytime I typed all the words would just become highlighted and not accept more typing until I killed the machine and restart. The following post will continue where I left off

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Post by Apollonaris Zeus » Thu Apr 16, 2009 1:07 pm

As I was saying, almost every Post Mortem exam revealed that X was present, but not in levels to cause death except in one case. In those other tests, other drugs were consumed. Tests did not state whether other toxins were discovered, such as poisons or heavy metals. In many case where a toxicology test wasn’t performed, associates statements were the only source of information relating to the deaths. One can not define causal death based on hearsay evidence.

In other words, this law is a reaction to a propaganda effort on the DEA and Police.

Legalization and education would make deaths a very rare event!

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Post by wedeliver » Thu Apr 16, 2009 1:34 pm

Everytime I google Rave this comes back, over and over and over againj.

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Post by dragonfly Jafe » Thu Apr 16, 2009 2:13 pm

wedeliver wrote:
Rabbi Dali Rick wrote:..... I'm a little worried about holding burning type of event.....
I think we are an authorized RAVE since we have our BLM "Permit To Party" (POP).
more than that, the BM permit does not get issued UNTIL the BM llc demonstrates (through written policies, etc) to the BLM that it is against illegal substances and has made statements to the attendees that they are not allowed and will not be tolerated. This includes such things as not allowing discussion of illegal activities on this forum, written warnings in the survival guide, tickets, and websites, etc.

Once these hoops are jumped through, the BLM and BM llc can legitimately claim (and prove in court) that all reasonable steps were taken to prevent said activity, and therefore the individual is responsible and not the llc.

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Post by Apollonaris Zeus » Thu Apr 16, 2009 8:51 pm

What, everyone know that Larry "El Vicentillo" Harvey is the playa's Mexican Drug Kingpin

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Post by dj_john69 » Thu Apr 16, 2009 9:10 pm

Yeah, that law is a bunch of bullshit that was introduced and helped passed by our vice president Biden.

It was used & enforced only a few times and i'd basically consider it now dead.

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Post by wedeliver » Fri Apr 17, 2009 5:16 am

We, I, us (I me mine) have been doing our RAVE since the 60's


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Carnival of Light" is an unreleased experimental piece by The Beatles. It was recorded on January 5, 1967, after the vocal overdubbing sessions for "Penny Lane". The track was created for The Million Volt Light and Sound Rave, an event held at the Roundhouse Theatre on January 28 and February 4, 1967.
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Post by wedeliver » Fri Apr 17, 2009 5:24 am

Apollonaris Zeus wrote:What, everyone know that Larry "El Vicentillo" Harvey is the playa's Mexican Drug Kingpin
I think I read, perhaps piss clear, that Mr. Kingpin Harvy's first message about drugs where that they were bad and people should stop doing them. I think he then requested that everyone send him their drugs so he could properly dispose of them. Then I heard of this pharmacy opening in Fallon...

I have friends that tell me they like doing vicodin and viagra as a "drug cocktail". These are prescribed medications. and the fucking drug abusers are in their 60's
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