RV friendly camp with a camp generator?

[ibdave]

A Honda EU2000 only weighs 50 pounds. Shit, I carry three.

Bragger....

[justfred]

I'm sort of curious, you say you need a generator but you haven't said what you're trying to power. A sound system? Is this LSSA? A bunch of blinky lights? Some other art project? The air conditioner on the motorhome?

Next question is, do you really need this thing? Aren't there plenty of other people on the playa schlepping out whatever it is you want to plug in? Can you live without it?

I've got a small art project that takes either solar or batteries charged by a tiny Honda generator (half price, thanks Craig!). More than I really need. Can't we all pretty much make our art and enjoy other people's art without having to fire up a 10,000Kw turbo-bio-smoko-diesel genny?

[Captain Goddammit]

A Honda EU2000 only weighs 50 pounds. Shit, I carry three.

Bragger....

Well I meant on my truck... not one in each hand and one hanging from... whatever else I had left that would fit through the handle.

Oh, and

Silly anti-electric biz

Burning Man runs on electricity. Lots of it! And none of us "needs" BM at all.
Your specific art project, undoubtedly very cool, has low electric draw, but that doesn't go for the rest of Black Rock City. Let there be sparks!

My boat needs a few thousand watts just to run enough lighting to qualify for it's night time DMV license.

[Simon of the Playa]

hey SWAA, i got two words for you...."Orange County"...



nuff' said.




god, that's like WORSE than saying you're from buffalo, you know what i mean?

[justfred]

Silly anti-electric biz

Burning Man runs on electricity. Lots of it! And none of us "needs" BM at all.
Your specific art project, undoubtedly very cool, has low electric draw, but that doesn't go for the rest of Black Rock City. Let there be sparks!

My boat needs a few thousand watts just to run enough lighting to qualify for it's night time DMV license.

But that's my point. If it's a cool art project or musical creation, I bet other people might even want to help with getting it powered up.

If it's the AC in the RV, which I think is more likely - I think staying home would be a better choice (and maybe that's why OP's tenter campmates didn't fit).

[Captain Goddammit]

If it's the AC in the RV, which I think is more likely - I think staying home would be a better choice (and maybe that's why OP's tenter campmates didn't fit).

OK, now you just don't understand logistics.
Having a cool, dark place to sleep during the hot part of the day is REALLY nice! Suffering while you try to sleep in a hot tent does not make you more of a Burner - just less prepared.
At Burning Man, there will be noise (WAY more noise than nice quiet Honda or Yamaha generators, or big 30 Kw Whisper-Watt diesels) and there will be fossil fuel burned and there will be lights.
If this doesn't sound acceptable to you, perhaps it's you that should stay home!
This is an event where people set up a city and burn shit. It's not a GreenPeace convention.

[theCryptofishist]

So, does anybody else read the words "camp generator" and think of some sort of updated Uchronia that pops out a new camp every couple of hours?

[justfred]

If it's the AC in the RV, which I think is more likely - I think staying home would be a better choice (and maybe that's why OP's tenter campmates didn't fit).

OK, now you just don't understand logistics.
Having a cool, dark place to sleep during the hot part of the day is REALLY nice! Suffering while you try to sleep in a hot tent does not make you more of a Burner - just less prepared.
At Burning Man, there will be noise (WAY more noise than nice quiet Honda or Yamaha generators, or big 30 Kw Whisper-Watt diesels) and there will be fossil fuel burned and there will be lights.
If this doesn't sound acceptable to you, perhaps it's you that should stay home!
This is an event where people set up a city and burn shit. It's not a GreenPeace convention.

I understand logistics; a major part of logistics is don't take what you don't really need. What I don't understand is people who can't go camping in the desert for a week without bringing a metric crapload of unnecessary stuff so they have all the "comforts" of "home". I sleep fine in my (canvas, covered, ventilated as necessary) tent. But usually during the heat of the day I'm out participating. Been there 11 years, never set foot in an a/c metal box. Maybe the heat has gotten to my head. I do think there are a lot of people who choose comfort over partipation. If I'm going to go to the effort to haul shit out there (and in some cases burn it) I'd rather have something to share with the community than keeping myself comfortable; but to each her own.

The point was, OP needs a generator, what for? The answer might be helpful in providing a solution.

[Captain Goddammit]

I wonder why you mistakenly think that comfort and participation are mutually exclusive.
What exactly is it that the lack of cool sleeping accommodations allows you to do that is more participatory than the things I do out there?

[justfred]

Not sure about you (in a number of ways). But in my case, not bringing things I don't need allows me to afford to go at all. If I had to pay for a motorhome and gas and a generator, I wouldn't be able to attend, let alone create any art. It also takes a lot of stress off me - I don't have to worry about my motorhome breaking down on the road, or losing my deposit on the massive generator because it got dusty. Less stuff, to me, means less stress and more time to have fun. (shrug)

[Elderberry]

We built and air conditioned a yurt this year; and I can assure you that the Captain is correct on all counts. Nothing like a cool retreat from the heat--it actually allows you to participate more, not less.

JK

[Sail Man]

Not sure about you (in a number of ways). But in my case, not bringing things I don't need allows me to afford to go at all. If I had to pay for a motorhome and gas and a generator, I wouldn't be able to attend, let alone create any art. It also takes a lot of stress off me - I don't have to worry about my motorhome breaking down on the road, or losing my deposit on the massive generator because it got dusty. Less stuff, to me, means less stress and more time to have fun. (shrug)

ygmir, can I borrow your smileys for a little bit?



Thanks man

[Box Burner]

If it's the AC in the RV, which I think is more likely - I think staying home would be a better choice (and maybe that's why OP's tenter campmates didn't fit).

OK, now you just don't understand logistics.
Having a cool, dark place to sleep during the hot part of the day is REALLY nice! Suffering while you try to sleep in a hot tent does not make you more of a Burner - just less prepared.
At Burning Man, there will be noise (WAY more noise than nice quiet Honda or Yamaha generators, or big 30 Kw Whisper-Watt diesels) and there will be fossil fuel burned and there will be lights.
If this doesn't sound acceptable to you, perhaps it's you that should stay home!
This is an event where people set up a city and burn shit. It's not a GreenPeace convention.

I understand logistics; a major part of logistics is don't take what you don't really need. What I don't understand is people who can't go camping in the desert for a week without bringing a metric crapload of unnecessary stuff so they have all the "comforts" of "home". I sleep fine in my (canvas, covered, ventilated as necessary) tent. But usually during the heat of the day I'm out participating. Been there 11 years, never set foot in an a/c metal box. Maybe the heat has gotten to my head. I do think there are a lot of people who choose comfort over partipation. If I'm going to go to the effort to haul shit out there (and in some cases burn it) I'd rather have something to share with the community than keeping myself comfortable; but to each her own.

The point was, OP needs a generator, what for? The answer might be helpful in providing a solution.

Best pay attention to the journals of the great explorers throughout history. they always allowed for whatever comforts that they could bring. Even if it was only a favorite pipe and a small supply of favorite tobacco. Comforts are a necessity. What those comforts are is as different as the individuals who require them.

It looks to me like the OP just wanted to have the camp subsidize his A/C costs. I could be wrong in that.

[ygmir]

Not sure about you (in a number of ways). But in my case, not bringing things I don't need allows me to afford to go at all. If I had to pay for a motorhome and gas and a generator, I wouldn't be able to attend, let alone create any art. It also takes a lot of stress off me - I don't have to worry about my motorhome breaking down on the road, or losing my deposit on the massive generator because it got dusty. Less stuff, to me, means less stress and more time to have fun. (shrug)

ygmir, can I borrow your smileys for a little bit?



Thanks man

I'm always happy to share a smile........
and, welcome to it.........

[justfred]

Best pay attention to the journals of the great explorers throughout history.

I actually read a lot about overland expeditions, and while you have a valid point, a favorite pipe doesn't take up much room and effort, and you wouldn't ask your fellow travellers to schepp it along for you and provide the tabaccy, if they don't smoke.

It looks to me like the OP just wanted to have the camp subsidize his A/C costs. I could be wrong in that.

That's pretty much what I was suggesting. But maybe we're wrong, and they wanted to power a cool art project but didn't have buddies to go along with it. In which case, teamwork is a good thing.

We've actually been "on the grid" the past two years, and the only think I used it for was charging camera batteries that probably would have worked just as well in my car.

[Captain Goddammit]

it is great how all you folks did not answer the question. but had you own opinion that meant nothing true want a be burners

bring it on

Hypocrite... unless you're gonna offer any substance yourself!

I might be the only one who's actually addressed the original question and even tried to offer workable suggestions.
Who gives a shit if it's to run the A/C in the RV or to power an art project? He wants electricity and is trying to sort out the logistics of it.
There's nothing wrong with bringing an RV to Burning Man, in fact it's an excellent plan, and everyone should quit judging whether this guy's electric load is holy and pure enough.

So... back to the topic, I'll restate that loading up on fuel and maybe even arranging a refueling trip if you can't store enough might be safer than depending on a common camp generator to be available.

[Captain Goddammit]

Not sure about you (in a number of ways). But in my case, not bringing things I don't need allows me to afford to go at all. If I had to pay for a motorhome and gas and a generator, I wouldn't be able to attend, let alone create any art. It also takes a lot of stress off me - I don't have to worry about my motorhome breaking down on the road, or losing my deposit on the massive generator because it got dusty. Less stuff, to me, means less stress and more time to have fun. (shrug)

I am fairly sure about you. You have bitched but offered zero input toward solving the question at hand. The thread isn't about how you do BM, it's about setting up some electricity.

[justfred]

I'm saying, if whatever they're trying to do is worth doing, they can probably get help. If whatever they're trying to do is useful only to them, then they're pretty much on their own. Which is as it should be.

But you'll probably read this as being anti-RV, or anti-boat, or anti-goddamnit, so what the f ever.

[Cassidy]

HOLY SHNIKEYS!!! I may have found my Signature Quote!!

This is an event where people set up a city and burn shit. It's not a GreenPeace convention.

Thanks Goddammit!!
(that always makes me laugh too ...)

[itssunnyv]

Where'd Tristan go? did he stop watching his own thread? am i too late to put in my two cents?

anyways... aside from all the previous, lets say, miscommunication about generator needs... have you thought about just making your own theme camp and heading out the organizing process?

You had a bad experience. you know what you don't want... so be the change you want to see. make the experience better for you and your camp mates this year.

yeah it might be hard from the east coast, but definitely not impossible.

that is all.

[oneeyeddick]

Since they have had problems getting people to do what they expect of them already, running a Theme Camp shouldn't even be on thier plate.

BTDT.......

[joemomma]

I've been twice so far and didn't have a generator......what the big deal?
oh and I think tristenx is a bitch...