Lighting Your Camp

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:50 am

How are you lighting your camp and its many attactions?

We have an obstacle course as part of our theme camp. It may be hard to expect people to explore it and enjoy the challenges in the heat of the day. But at night (as it is now) it will be dark; I don't even expect that people will see it without lighting.

I'd like to see if there's any alternative to buying a generator and floodlights to make this happen.

sputnik · Post by **sputnik** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:01 am

Fire! You're barbarians after all.

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:10 am

Oh, yeah, it is Burning Man, isn't it?

We are not certified and experienced in doing flame effects safely. Are you camping downwind?

Maybe we can recruit a Playa Fire Expert to help us rig this up?

sputnik · Post by **sputnik** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:14 am

Answers: Yes, sometimes and I'm sure someone can help.

I was thinking propane canisters with a 6 foot extension to get the flame up above people and a bowl to contain the flame. Maybe even a reflector of some sort to direct the light. The moon will be bright, so that will help too.

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:16 am

sputnik wrote:Answers: Yes, sometimes and I'm sure someone can help.

We may be able to offer camping space for an experienced pyro.

Boijoy · Post by **Boijoy** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:34 am

tiki torches?

sputnik · Post by **sputnik** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:42 am

Tiki torches are specifically banned. All fire effects do need to be cleared in advance. Might still be time, but time is running out.

Boijoy · Post by **Boijoy** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:50 am

faux tiki torches?

mikesieben · Post by **mikesieben** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:54 am

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/d ... zmap=95388

trystanthegypsy · Post by **trystanthegypsy** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 12:05 pm

Solar lamps! You would have to spend a lot to get enough garden lights, but I'm sure there are a few big ones out there! What's your budget?

*edit* yes I just realized I repeated the link above me.. oops.*

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 12:06 pm

Thanks, Mike. I picked up a set of three of these from OSH. The lamps are exceedingly dim. I also have LED/solar Tiki lights.

I may have to make do with this combo.

Or not.

Boijoy · Post by **Boijoy** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 12:52 pm

Hand out head lamps.

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 1:23 pm

Sign

Turn Your Headlamp On

There you go.

Token · Post by **Token** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 1:29 pm

Post by **AntiM** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 3:53 pm

Actually, the Coleman lamps are very bright. we have one we don't use much because we can't use it in the shade structure. Burns too bright and too hot.

The solar tiki torches? meh.

Outline the obstacles in el-wire.

wait, how about a flaming obstacle course? That would be a challenge.

bdeywoo · Post by **bdeywoo** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 4:31 pm

Box of 12 solar lights that stick in the ground, go to the dollar store and get the Tiki torches. Cut the top of the Tiki tourch off leaving a hole and stick the solar light in the hole.

There you go cheap effective lighting above and if you stick another set of solar lights in the ground you'd be set.

Absolut Jeenyus · Post by **Absolut Jeenyus** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 4:32 pm

EL Wire, LEDs, Propane Lamps, Rope Lights, Batteries, Solar Panels...?

Absolut Jeenyus · Post by **Absolut Jeenyus** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 4:34 pm

What about a human powered energy source? Humans cycling to create energy to light the place for example...

DoriumLux · Post by **DoriumLux** » Wed Aug 05, 2009 12:58 am

We do solar powered string lights. We get them in 100ft strands off Ebay and Amazon for much cheaper than the website. We love them.

http://www.ecogeekliving.com/sochliam.h ... AR_d_AMBER

C.f.M. · Post by **C.f.M.** » Wed Aug 05, 2009 6:46 am

I love my solar powered string lights, but as decoration/marking my tent; they don't provide any sort of useful light.

Coleman makes tiki torches, I don't know if they'd fall under the ban.

Use EL wire to help mark paths/obstacles?

Enjoy the suckers that want to run something called an "obstacle course," provided by barbarians, in the dark?

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:25 am

C.f.M. wrote: Enjoy the suckers that want to run something called an "obstacle course," provided by barbarians, in the dark?

I am sure that is intended in a positive vein?

C.f.M. · Post by **C.f.M.** » Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:44 am

Ugly Dougly wrote:
C.f.M. wrote: Enjoy the suckers that want to run something called an "obstacle course," provided by barbarians, in the dark?
I am sure that is intended in a positive vein?

Of course!

Obstacle course + barbarians = fierce, toss in no light...I just had this mental image of dumb-asses running into walls in the dark. Like Gladiators (the TV show). But in the dark.

Post by **AntiM** » Wed Aug 05, 2009 11:06 am

Harbor Freight has solar powered motion activated security LED lights for $20 this month.

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Wed Aug 05, 2009 11:08 am

I see what you are saying!

Let's cut the problem into pieces.

If there's no lighting, people may assume that there's nothing going on. But that doesn't require a lot of candle power, my plaster-faced friend.

Thank you for helping me to think this out clearly.

So the solar-powered tiki lights may be sufficient for that.

A real barbarian should be able to navigate our modest challenges in the midnight's dimness.

Can I arrange to get more than one burn barrel? Does anyone know?

Playa Tom · Post by **Playa Tom** » Wed Aug 05, 2009 8:19 pm

Buy a bunch of cheap solar lights, gift them to your neighbors to light up anything you might stumble over at night. Your neighbors will be impressed by your generousity while your primary motivation is sef preservation.

trenton · Post by **trenton** » Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:35 am

full moon is on sept 6 so mother nature will help alot

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:16 am

Playa Tom wrote:Buy a bunch of cheap solar lights, gift them to your neighbors to light up anything you might stumble over at night. Your neighbors will be impressed by your generousity while your primary motivation is sef preservation.

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 2:55 pm

What if I put these two together? Wrong combination? Sparks and a cool light show, or just a fizzle? What, then?
(PAR38 80W 240V)

Maybe this comes in a 12V model? Say, 7.5 Ah?

phil · Post by **phil** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:22 pm

Fire gardens:
http://www.formandreform.com/wordpress/?p=415

I don't know what the dimensions are, but only $1500.

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:27 pm

No effect- low voltage.
12 volt fluorescents are the best choice for general light past a low level.
They use more power in cold and starting up.
They are more efficient at higher wattage.
LEDs are the opposite.
Wide angle 1-3 watt luxeon may have an advantage for spaced lights at that level 25-75 lumens generally.

Choices from compact fl to ballast and build your own or complete fixtures.

http://www.siliconsolar.com/12-volt-flu ... ights.html
http://www.commandelectronics.com/fluor ... ights.html
http://www.jcwhitney.com/BONATRADE-6-TO ... _10107.jcw
http://store.solar-electric.com/12vodcbaforf.html
http://www.oksolar.com/stl/fluorescent_thinlite.htm

U-Lite-it is usa made and they have a bulletproof 13 watt unit.

I think I got this cheap chinese fl at Lowes for $20
http://www.shop.com/+-a-12+volt+fluores ... 4-st.shtml

http://www.fishing-catalog.com/thinlite/index.htm

I think drake carries U-Lite-it too.
http://www.solarseller.com/12___24_volt ... logies.htm