EARLY ARRIVALS

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Sat Aug 15, 2009 9:19 pm

Token wrote:Are there any controls in place that would prevent having two shifts of EA crew, one working in BRC the other sleeping in lot D, 3 mile or whatnot and then swapping every 12 hours?

Technically you would never exceed your alloted EA numbers on Playa and still run a 24 hour operation.

Each pass can be used once and only once. I'm not sure, but I think there are names associated with the passes as well. Maybe not, I half remember not having to use my id.

Dustdevil · Post by **Dustdevil** » Sat Aug 15, 2009 9:23 pm

Names are NOT linked to the early entry passes. That is done in the event there is a last minute change of plans, another person can be brought in for camp set up. However, the bar code is marked and the pass becomes useless on the second attempt. This is for theme camp early arrival. I am not certain about staff and large Playa projects early arrival lists.

Ace of Kittens · Post by **Ace of Kittens** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 2:46 am

Just received an email stating "All of the requests for Early Arrival Bar Code Passes have been processed."

We did not get everything we requested. I am still waiting to hear from our sister camp to see what they got. This is going to be very challenging. :(

Dustdevil · Post by **Dustdevil** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 8:30 am

I was curious about my staff early entry bar code as it did NOT have my name on it. I asked my project manager about that and was told that the Gate was not checking names, only the validity of the bar code, making ALL early entry passes universal.

mars · Post by **mars** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 8:42 am

I just received that email too. We carefully requested exactly what we needed in order to be set up by Monday. We got 3 of 7 passes requested.

We are traveling in 3 vehicles with all the materials for the camp. SO, at this point, either one RV goes in with 3 people and 1/3 of the materials, or three vehicles leave their passengers somewhere and the 3 drivers go in alone.

OR--does anyone have 4 extra passes????????????

Either way, we WILL be serving coffee on Genome and 9 o'clock! See ya there!

lysistrata · Post by **lysistrata** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 9:11 am

as soon as the temple is done and temple camp is moved from the build site to 2 and K, i'll start wandering around looking for people who need help setting up their camp. god knows i'll do anything for whippets.

howjon2001 · Post by **howjon2001** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:22 am

<dupe>

Not completely conclusive yet, but the Black Rock Beacon may have only received half its requirement this year.

Somehow the four people coming down from WA with the printer and the four man setup crew from CA, the Middle East and Canada plus one spare driver are supposed to all fit into four passes.

4 / 9 = 0.4 p.p., remainder pissed and confused.

Looks like another clusterfuck in the making.

Does BMORG have an agent provocateur in its midst thinking up these disasters each year?

Maybe the 'punishment' of the participants is designed to create a black market for passes?

I will gladly trade you a hamburger for a pass today!

Isotopia · Post by **Isotopia** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 12:16 pm

I asked my project manager about that and was told that the Gate was not checking names, only the validity of the bar code, making ALL early entry passes universal.

Keep in mind that once the bar code is scanned in it is then cancelled to prevent it from being used again.

Also, there seems to be a glitch in the email system where people who submitted email with a dash ( - ) in their names may have been bounced. The likelihood of that being THE reason for not getting passes is a small one but keep it in mind.

mars · Post by **mars** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 1:12 pm

Dashed by a dash?! Dash!!!!

oneeyeddick · Post by **oneeyeddick** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 1:25 pm

Token wrote:Are there any controls in place that would prevent having two shifts of EA crew, one working in BRC the other sleeping in lot D, 3 mile or whatnot and then swapping every 12 hours?

Technically you would never exceed your alloted EA numbers on Playa and still run a 24 hour operation.

Good question.

Do they even do gate in/out coins for EATs ?

...and if so, how do they get them back in if thier code has already been deleted/scanned ?

Paperboy · Post by **Paperboy** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 1:39 pm

You get a bracelet.

It's no problem.

[quote="oneeyeddick"][quote="Token"]Are there any controls in place that would prevent having two shifts of EA crew, one working in BRC the other sleeping in lot D, 3 mile or whatnot and then swapping every 12 hours?

Technically you would never exceed your alloted EA numbers on Playa and still run a 24 hour operation.[/quote]

Good question.

Do they even do gate in/out coins for EATs ?

...and if so, how do they get them back in if thier code has already been deleted/scanned ?[/quote]

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 4:15 pm

All of the requests for Early Arrival Bar Code Passes have been processed.
Please do not reply to this email. If you have any questions or concerns,
or did not receive your pass (es) please contact:

Artists- Art Department or Fire Conclave
Theme Camps- [email protected]
Staff and Volunteers- Your project Manager

Thank you,

Your Early Arrival Team

EspressoDude · Post by **EspressoDude** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 4:38 pm

How far north do ya have to go to get outside the BM exclusion zone on the playa??

Say all your plans were for early entry on Thursday, all monies paid for vehicle, arrivals by airplane, all non refundable. For example, EAT passes were not issued. And you decide to go camp on the playa anyway Thursday thru Sunday. How far north of the entrance road do you have to go to not get bothered by BLM rangers?

oneeyeddick · Post by **oneeyeddick** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 4:46 pm

http://www.burningman.com/media/doc/pdf ... _order.pdf

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 4:51 pm

Just camp 30 metres past the flight path of the perimeter drones.

wedeliver · Post by **wedeliver** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 5:16 pm

EspressoDude wrote:How far north do ya have to go to get outside the BM exclusion zone on the playa??

Say all your plans were for early entry on Thursday, all monies paid for vehicle, arrivals by airplane, all non refundable. For example, EAT passes were not issued. And you decide to go camp on the playa anyway Thursday thru Sunday. How far north of the entrance road do you have to go to not get bothered by BLM rangers?

I know we arn't as close, but you are welcome to wait it out here. 165 miles from Black Rock City.

Killbuck · Post by **Killbuck** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 5:18 pm

I too got that "all early arrival requests have been processed..." email.

So at this point we have 1/5th the passes (for a village) we requested and determined we would need to set up before Monday.

I dunno what'll happen next, but if that's what we get, then tah's what we get. We also would then be set up by, let's say Tuesday night at the earliest, prolly Weds.

No crying in the beer here, but that's reality folks!!!

Still waiting and wondering.

EspressoDude · Post by **EspressoDude** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 5:22 pm

thanks for the map oneeyeddick!!!

EspressoDude · Post by **EspressoDude** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 5:25 pm

KK: howsabout calling your internet service provider and have them check their logs and see if a bunch got filtered out.

next call BM placement and ask them hat number they actually sent out..

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 5:26 pm

yeah, thanks OED.....

why the complicated shape, I wonder?.......
seems a big old square or circle or something would do.......

EspressoDude · Post by **EspressoDude** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 5:31 pm

ygmir wrote:yeah, thanks OED.....

why the complicated shape, I wonder?.......
seems a big old square or circle or something would do.......

its the goobermint....must be a section line or something..

skip D lot...party 2 plus miles northeast of 12 Mile Access!!!!

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 5:37 pm

section line?
there are so many direction changes, looks like a drunken bureaucrat and his government paid surveyor brother laid it out........chuckle.......

Oldguy · Post by **Oldguy** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 5:44 pm

OK, the map shows public access via 12 mile road, camping about 6 miles up the track. 3mile road/trego road access, open south of the trego road.

Last year I camped on the west side of 12 but I was asked to travel about 5 miles up the track from where I was to be outside the BLM exclusion zone. Looks about the same as last year.

I camped in the wrong spot that Friday before the event. Saturday morning I was gifted some peach necter by a patrol. Later on, I was hired by perimeter to work the weekend and got early entry. This year my one day early pass got the kybosh, so I'm showing up Monday.

wedeliver · Post by **wedeliver** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 5:46 pm

EspressoDude wrote:
ygmir wrote:yeah, thanks OED.....

why the complicated shape, I wonder?.......
seems a big old square or circle or something would do.......
its the goobermint....must be a section line or something..

skip D lot...party 2 plus miles northeast of 12 Mile Access!!!!

We used to go in early every year, but in 06 they turned us away so we went north maybe 2 miles and a BLM ranger sat in his pickup near us for at least 4 hours, and all night long they were driving by checking us out. I suggest you consider going a bit further away. Mayben out of sight 4 or 5 miles

As you can see from that great map OED put up you use the 12 mile access road here is a sign from this morning on that road.

The detour leads north to open playa

Killbuck · Post by **Killbuck** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 6:42 pm

EspressoDude wrote:KK: howsabout calling your internet service provider and have them check their logs and see if a bunch got filtered out.

I already did. Nothing.

next call BM placement and ask them hat number they actually sent out..

We expect Pinemom is going to do just that- she's been our contact.

7 out of 8 of the theme camps of our village won't have any passes. The 8th will have half of what they need.

Terminal Village...Terminated in 2009!!!!!

Barbie · Post by **Barbie** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 6:51 pm

Maybe some of the Camps who got all their passes- could help other Theme Camps out and give them some of theirs..

Paperboy · Post by **Paperboy** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 7:22 pm

I'm sorry, but i really don't understand.

Aren't we the ones building the city? I mean, yeah, center camp and antarctica are cool and what not, but, uh, we're just going to do nothing?

Take turns?

How about this: We show up, like we planned, and go in. I mean, wtf over!

My friends did not die face down in the mud.....This aggression will not stand, man!

[quote="Barbie"]Maybe some of the Camps who got all their passes- could help other Theme Camps out and give them some of theirs..[/quote]

Killbuck · Post by **Killbuck** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 7:27 pm

That's already happening. It's not gonna make a noticable dent tho.

Hey if this is some kinda glitch.... why wouldn't theysay so, like they do when there's a glitch for on-line tix sales?

Either way, I'm not sure this is all worth it next year.

Fawwk.. and I was originally the optimist on this thread!!!!!

Roberto Dobbisano · Post by **Roberto Dobbisano** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 7:49 pm

wow.....it's going around.....out of the 26 we requested it looks like we only got 6...

lets see, 3 massive domes, 20 tipis, 22 day beds for chillin', dj booths, hanging cages, electrical, sound and solar, not to mention what are we going to do with all of those goddamn DJ's?

yep...we should be all set up by friday, at the latest...

knock down begins sat. morning, right after cartoons.

i guess this means the man will be lit on the following tuesday or so.

i blame california, and their whole concept of "ish"

3 ish, thursday-ish, september-ish.

OY! Gevalt-ish!

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 7:55 pm

Maybe we're downscaling burning man?