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Post by technopatra » Wed May 12, 2004 2:53 pm

We don't have any plans for an eplaya camp...Spanky, AG & I all work for some portion of the event and camp with our teams.

But I do look forward to hearing of any on-playa eplaya parties. Just let me know when & where, and I'll be there with bells on. Or maybe buzzers. Who knows.

Better yet, if someone plans one, I'll make sure we get it in the Playa calendar online, so it can make it into the What Where When guide.

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Post by DVD Burner » Wed May 12, 2004 2:56 pm

IMHO,

I think Eplaya deserves one. Should we make a thread for opinions or start a voluteers for eplaya thread? what should be done?
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Post by blyslv » Wed May 12, 2004 3:04 pm

I was under the impression that you did not attend the event anymore. Last year there was an eplaya meet and greet that was a lot of fun. A lot of those same people are camping this year. If you were to host a meet and greet I would be happy to attend.
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Post by samtzu » Wed May 12, 2004 3:05 pm

Let's ask for a commitee to organize a group that will be responsible for picking the supervisors that pull people from their unit who will get together weekly to try and organize the core commitee that will organize the group whose job it is to take the names of the future leaders who decide who should sit down and hash it out with the people from the other side who don't think they can make the commitment at this time but who, on the other hand, might have some friends who can get together on the internet, or at least in some chat room in Unlan Bator, and see if it is at all workable...

or not...

I think I've been working in Corporate America toooooooo long...

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Post by DVD Burner » Wed May 12, 2004 3:09 pm

blyslv wrote:I was under the impression that you did not attend the event anymore.
Ok,

For the last time......

I did not say I was not going to the event anymore.

I'm sure there are many that would like very much that I not attend, But I never said that I would not go back to the event.

As for volunteering for an eplaya camp, I'm all for it.
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Post by Ivy » Wed May 12, 2004 3:33 pm

As my dad always says:

"That's a great idea! Why don't you take care of that?"

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Post by DVD Burner » Wed May 12, 2004 3:40 pm

Ivy wrote:As my dad always says:

"That's a great idea! Why don't you take care of that?"
Because out of experience so far, I think if I put a lot of effort to create the camp myself either no one will come or participate. If there were to be an Eplaya camp I would want it to be successful. Not unsuccessful on the account of me.
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Post by Ivy » Wed May 12, 2004 5:07 pm

How about sticking to the credo of "no expectations" regarding this whole thing?

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Post by DVD Burner » Wed May 12, 2004 5:25 pm

Ivy wrote:How about sticking to the credo of "no expectations" regarding this whole thing?
I hate to say this and I mean no ill will but I have been expecting nothing from certain areas and have gotten nothing.
I'm someone that likes to do something and do many things, but really can’t stand when I'm left to do all, by my self. Not all the time, sometimes things turn out better because I am the one that does it alone. But with Burningman I enjoy collaborations. I enjoy input from burners. I enjoy their creativity. (For the most part.)

I think it would be pretty stupid of me to do an eplaya camp by myself. I understand there are people that are dedicated to their own commitments; I’m not speaking to that. I just wanted to know if their was anybody interested in building an eplaya camp.
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Post by Ivy » Wed May 12, 2004 5:35 pm

From the way you've been phrasing it, it has not sounded like you've been interested in seeking out collaborators to start an eplaya camp with. Your messages come across more like "is anyone [else] starting an eplaya camp." They give the impression that you think it's a great idea but you want someone else to do the work. Perhaps that is not your intention, but I think that's how a lot of peole are interpreting it as--something to think about.

I was also referring to your admant desire to be "successful" with the no expectations thing--what constitutes success? A big outrageous project? Flaming cannons? Giving away PB&J? What would a successful eplaya camp be?
Personally, I would imagine that a successful eplaya camp would be a place where eplayan who aren't camping elsewhere already and might be interested in camping with other eplayans could stake their claim. Nothingmore, nothing less. If you have 2 people, it's a success. Kep the expectations low. Keep the complexity to a minimum and you're almost guranteed to be successful.

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Post by DVD Burner » Wed May 12, 2004 5:46 pm

DVD Burner wrote:
Ivy wrote: I was also referring to your admant desire to be "successful" with the no expectations thing--what constitutes success? A big outrageous project? Flaming cannons? Giving away PB&J? What would a successful eplaya camp be?
Personally, I would imagine that a successful eplaya camp would be a place where eplayan who aren't camping elsewhere already and might be interested in camping with other eplayans could stake their claim. Nothingmore, nothing less. If you have 2 people, it's a success. Kep the expectations low. Keep the complexity to a minimum and you're almost guranteed to be successful.

If I were going to build an eplaya camp with 2 people I might as well just build my own camp for myself. I think you have missed the point.
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Post by Rob the Wop » Wed May 12, 2004 5:46 pm

Ivy wrote: Giving away PB&J?
Nope, giving away PBR.
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Post by Silver » Wed May 12, 2004 6:00 pm

I have not decided where I will camp this year, unless I am mistaken I have several options, though tonight I am leaning towards Hushville and vistiting around.

In any case, if there is an eplaya camp or eplaya meet and greet I will show up (playa time) and bring a large bottle of booze and maybe some ice. The only activity that I am committed to at this point is backing up a friend at a Gigsville function that, I think, happens on Monday or Tuesday.

I really would like to meet all you weirdos. Make suggestions on the booze, otherwise I might bring something nasty just to see who drinks it..
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Post by Rob the Wop » Wed May 12, 2004 6:11 pm

Quick stupid question time. Is Hushville actually quiet? Or are they on the Esplanade next to loud camps? Where can I get info about them?

I was planning on camping alone out on the fringes to escape the noise factor, but if Hushville is actually a fairly quiet camp- maybe that would be an option.
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Post by technopatra » Wed May 12, 2004 6:39 pm

LASt year Hushville was just down the road and everytime I went by it it was dead silent, except teh one time folks were sitting out in front and saying "Shhhh..." to passersby with smiles on their faces.

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Post by Ivy » Wed May 12, 2004 7:13 pm

If I were going to build an eplaya camp with 2 people I might as well just build my own camp for myself. I think you have missed the point.
No one asid anything about "buliding" anything. A camp doesn't mean you provide everything for other people. I am asking you what is your definition of making this camp sucessful. Clearly, to you, for a camp to be successful you have to "build" something. What is it that you need to build? A shower? A kitchen? A big blinking sculpture? What?

For the last two years I participated in (and helped "build") one of the largest and most successful camps on the Playa: The Solo Collective. It accomplished everything it set out to do: a place for people--mainly people who coimmunicated online year-round--to camp. That's it. No communal kitchen. No communal showers. No big blinky sculptures, unless someone happened happened to be working on one of their own.

I don't uncerstand where this grandiose shceme of sucess and this wole bearing the brunt of the load stems from, i really don't. But I'm sure I'm just missing the point. Obviously for a camp to be sucessful, it must have 42, 000,000 people, lots of fire cannons and 7 storey tall blinky sculptures, and someone (solitary) person to build the ebtire infrastructure by himself.

Whatever happened to sucess being equivalent to acieveing one's goals? Sheesh.

IMO, it's YOU that's missed the point.

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Post by samtzu » Wed May 12, 2004 7:15 pm

Burner... IF you're doing an eplaya camp (I know, I know... I read your last entry) count me in... although I don't see where there could be just one theme to the camp... unless it would be bashing and flaming others that don't agree with us... which could be fun.

Another good idea would be "Camp Tourette's" where anytime, day or night, you could hear extreme examples of verbal abuse projected over a bull horn... Maybe out near the trash fence... or trash talkin' fence... whatever

But, IF ePlaya Camp comes together, count me and my son in. If 'newbies' are allowed, that is... there are some who may want to make it exclusive and only allow those who 'get it'...

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Post by Captain Goddammit » Wed May 12, 2004 7:20 pm

It sounds to me like an e-playa party/meet&greet instead of a camp would be a more workable deal. Let's do that! We could meet up at a predetermined place/general time, perhaps use my boat as a party platform/landmark since everyone knows what it looks like and not everyone will recognize each other in person.
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Post by Silver » Wed May 12, 2004 8:26 pm

Quick stupid question time. Is Hushville actually quiet? Or are they on the Esplanade next to loud camps? Where can I get info about them?
Hushville is near the center of things but far enough from the really noisy camps that it is kinda quite. In '02 it was next to Kidsville and 200 to 300 meters from the cafe. It was developed by the Petermans, and you can find more information here: http://www.playachicken.com/hushville/.

I don't think it will be a problem for you but there are rules, no generators and no amp'ed music as well as 'leave no trace'', comment, there were people in '02 that left a mess and it was made clear that they were not welcome back. I will comment at this point that I got sick and tired of picking up wooden matches. I missed 03 but I understand that it was packed by Thurday and that pre-registation may be required.
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Post by Ranger Genius » Thu May 13, 2004 8:29 am

Pre-registration will be required for Hushville MMIV, though the Peterman/Bundts have not yet begun that process. Sign up for the Hushville mailing list at Playachicken.Com to keep abreast (or even two) of developments. Hushville '03 filled up very quickly and was very full. I don't know how we did on our LNT since I had to leave sunday morning, but we did rather well as far as educating potential neighbors of the generators/amplified music rules. We were thoughtfully placed adjacent to the AEZ (Alternative Energy Zone) and Kidsville (both also quiet camps), so we for the most part enjoyed the peace and quiet for which I love Hushville. It's great to be in a zone where you can actually sleep if you wish to, and yet it's a very short ride to center cafe and the esplanade.
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Post by samtzu » Thu May 13, 2004 3:16 pm

Back to the original thread... somewhere back there... I have realized that I am stuck on ePlaya.... I cannot work without it. When the corporate insanity gets to be too much (about every seven-and-a-half minutes around here) I cruise back into the ePlaya and I get to play with creative minds!!!


Ahhhhh..... Thanks.... almost as good as sex under the desk....

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Post by theCryptofishist » Thu May 13, 2004 3:42 pm

Silver wrote: Make suggestions on the booze, otherwise I might bring something nasty just to see who drinks it..
Please don't hand everclear to anybody with a lit cigarette. . .

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Post by Silver » Thu May 13, 2004 5:26 pm

everclear, hummm. I will be visiting my parents in El Paso before Burning Man, now I've just got to bring a bottle of pureo. 99.9% pure ethel alcohol, at least I think it is, nobody ever died. Granted, the next day some of them wished they had.
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Post by Tiara » Thu May 13, 2004 5:36 pm

For the past several years there has been an eplaya Meet and Greet hosted by Barbie Death Camp and Wine Bistro on Thursday evening. I believe Doc Pyro and his crew intend to carry on the tradition this year.

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Post by DVD Burner » Thu May 13, 2004 5:37 pm

Tiara wrote:For the past several years there has been an eplaya Meet and Greet hosted by Barbie Death Camp and Wine Bistro on Thursday evening. I believe Doc Pyro and his crew intend to carry on the tradition this year.
Thank you. Now that's a start.
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Post by Captain Goddammit » Thu May 13, 2004 8:24 pm

I'll show up wherever a meet/party is, I'm guessing we will have to nail down the exact details shortly before Burn time
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Post by cowboyangel » Sat May 22, 2004 12:32 am

somebody accused me of being a crank meth head (wow that's cool) how about a very simple addiction to the eplaya discussion board.....this is after all an electronic burn of sorts......hiccup
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Post by DVD Burner » Sat May 22, 2004 1:35 am

cowboyangel wrote:somebody accused me of being a crank meth head (wow that's cool) how about a very simple addiction to the eplaya discussion board.....this is after all an electronic burn of sorts......hiccup
I bet Bob and Badger are associating me with this guy. :lol:
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Post by DVD Burner » Sat May 22, 2004 1:37 am

is that a bad thing or a good thing?.............i can handle it.










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Post by BAS » Sat May 22, 2004 11:32 am

Just out of curiosity, how does Hushville handle really loud snoring and/or someone who has full scale, loud arguments in their sleep?! It seems that if I am not doing one, I am doing the other.... :oops: :)

Hmmm..., if I am going in 2005, I have how many weeks to lose enough weight to stop my snoring and, maybe, train myself not to talk in my sleep...? :wink:


P.S.: Oh great! Now I am addicted to ePlaya! :shock:
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