if you like beer...

thisisthatwhichis · Post by **thisisthatwhichis** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:48 pm

Yup, so true....... There's actually some pretty good light beers you can make, without going the Pils (cold fermentation) route....

skeetsh00ter · Post by **skeetsh00ter** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 3:05 pm

Token wrote:SS, you know Pilsners and Lagers need refrigeration to brew properly, use a different yeast than ales and take much longer to brew. You also generally need to spike the temperature of the wort to get rid of diacetyl mid fermentation...

I would suggest a California Common beer (Example: Anchor Steam from San Francisco). It ferments in the high 50s, low 60s but retains the crispness of the lagers, pilsners and marzens.

Yup, i know the difference. We actually were really lucky and got a homebrewing setup from a guy who had been doing it 15+ years so we have almost every piece of equipment needed to brew almost all styles...including a giant chest freezer that we can control the temp on.

I think i will try doing a California Common at some point. I tried Anchor Steam when i was in SF over christmas and it was quite tasty. (hard to find Anchor Steam out here in GA).

Box Burner · Post by **Box Burner** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 3:31 pm

So what is the difference between beer and malt liquor?

skeetsh00ter · Post by **skeetsh00ter** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:36 pm

i think it is primarily differences in alcohol content. malt liquor > beer

there is probably something other than that though.

thisisthatwhichis · Post by **thisisthatwhichis** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 5:43 pm

skeetsh00ter wrote:i think it is primarily differences in alcohol content. malt liquor > beer

there is probably something other than that though.

Yea, pretty much..... but the variances of all of the fermented goodness's are so large............... I think that's what makes it kinda fun..........

Post by **mdmf007** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:59 pm

There was a camp around outer ring and 8-9ish that was stomping grapes at night to make wine. They kept everything in a refrigerated trailer. The wine was supposed to come back this year for sharing - any information?

Token · Post by **Token** » Tue Feb 12, 2008 3:11 pm

Box Burner wrote:So what is the difference between beer and malt liquor?

Malt Liquor is a type of beer, specifically it is a type of Lager beer (i.e. bottom fermenting at cold temperature yeast). The distinction is that it has high alcohol content which is not fermented from the malt alone but has been artificially increased by use of corn sugars or similar.

The term was invented to deal with legality and standards more than anything else. In the US, the ATF likes to have clear distinction between beers, ales and ML via alcohol by volume (ABV) even though it has nothing to do with the science or techniques of brewing.

It is all beer, made by fermenting grain sugars with yeast, bittered with hops.

T

Box Burner · Post by **Box Burner** » Tue Feb 12, 2008 3:30 pm

mdmf007 wrote:There was a camp around outer ring and 8-9ish that was stomping grapes at night to make wine. They kept everything in a refrigerated trailer. The wine was supposed to come back this year for sharing - any information?

If you call it beer we can answer your question for you.

I heard about the stomping of grapes. Makes sence that they would bring it back this year. Maybe the folks at barbie death camp and wine bistro would know someting about it?

skeetsh00ter · Post by **skeetsh00ter** » Tue Feb 12, 2008 3:45 pm

Box Burner wrote:
If you call it beer we can answer your question for you.

Yeah! for real mdm...quit trying to jack my thread.

Box Burner · Post by **Box Burner** » Tue Feb 12, 2008 5:21 pm

Wine is good too!

Hooray for thread drift!

oneeyeddick · Post by **oneeyeddick** » Tue Feb 12, 2008 5:28 pm

Does anyone else like hard pear cider ?
I think it's mighty tasty !!!

Box Burner · Post by **Box Burner** » Tue Feb 12, 2008 5:33 pm

Wel.... I have never tried it. Sounds good though.

skeetsh00ter · Post by **skeetsh00ter** » Tue Feb 12, 2008 7:29 pm

ok, i guess you can't fight a little thread drifting....wine is good. thats a cool idea too, starting wine on the playa and bringing it back the next year.

also sounds like a lot of work though.

Post by **mdmf007** » Tue Feb 12, 2008 7:56 pm

I had wine on the rocks this last year -

Delightfully tacky, yet trashy as well.

Fire Wire · Post by **Fire Wire** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:38 am

zachass · Post by **zachass** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 9:50 pm

Evenin.

I'll be a virgin in '10 and am brand-new to eplaya.

I do, though, know how message boards work. I had beer/homebrew questions. Search function, and taha....thread resurrected.

I'm also new to homebrewing this year, and definitely want to bring some to the playa. The 5 gallon pin kegs sound like just the ticket, and are cheaply available. I'm a bit concerned about keeping them cold. Ice costs could climb to a pretty big number. I won't have power at my camp I don't believe, so I'm in a bit of a pickle. Maybe I'll bring a few 5 gallon kegs and trade cooling for consumption.

Ideas?

Deb Prothero · Post by **Deb Prothero** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:10 pm

zachass; You might want to hook up with some of the homebrewers who are still at the event. There's one that I know of, for sure, from personal experience and that's the Home Brew for Home Brew camp. Goathead who posts here often is in that camp. They bring many kegs and have the refrigeration thing worked out.

Goathead has been offline for a couple days for a work trip but he usually posts here almost daily. He'll be the person to chat with about refrigeration for home brew.

zachass · Post by **zachass** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:17 pm

Wonderful. Thanks Deb!

Thecatman · Post by **Thecatman** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 7:34 pm

I usually drink Hamms, PBR or Busch and sometimes Coors. A few times a year I'll order Monchshof Schwarzbier. Good between 40-50(F) degrees.

CaverX · Post by **CaverX** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:13 pm

I bet you could keep your beer well in the shade, and just run it through a "Jockey Box."
A jockey box, is a box with coils in it, through which the beer flows. The box is filled with ice, and the beer is cooled, as it is dispensed.
This way there is no need to keep the entire stock of kegs cold.

The link is just an example of what is available.
You could make your own if you have the parts.

http://www.kegworks.com/product.php?pro ... ource=base

zachass wrote:Evenin.

I'll be a virgin in '10 and am brand-new to eplaya.

I do, though, know how message boards work. I had beer/homebrew questions. Search function, and taha....thread resurrected.

I'm also new to homebrewing this year, and definitely want to bring some to the playa. The 5 gallon pin kegs sound like just the ticket, and are cheaply available. I'm a bit concerned about keeping them cold. Ice costs could climb to a pretty big number. I won't have power at my camp I don't believe, so I'm in a bit of a pickle. Maybe I'll bring a few 5 gallon kegs and trade cooling for consumption.

Ideas?

goathead · Post by **goathead** » Sun Nov 22, 2009 2:45 pm

coils, tubes???

try this instead.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Cold-Plate_W0QQitem ... 500wt_1182

find a cold plate on ebay or someplace, much more efficient the coils and more frigging manageable.

keep the corny kegs out of the sun, drape them with damp towels, blankets?

a jockey box with a cold plate requires about 1 block of ice every two days with a double tap on it.

MMMMmmmmmm BBBBEeEEEeeeerrrRRRRrrrrr.....

zachass · Post by **zachass** » Sun Nov 22, 2009 4:36 pm

[quote="goathead"]coils, tubes???

try this instead.

find a cold plate on ebay or someplace, much more efficient the coils and more frigging manageable.

keep the corny kegs out of the sun, drape them with damp towels, blankets?

a jockey box with a cold plate requires about 1 block of ice every two days with a double tap on it.

MMMMmmmmmm BBBBEeEEEeeeerrrRRRRrrrrr.....[/quote]

I've never even heard of one of these before. That is a marvel of modern science right there. I've found my solution! Thanks for the info! Once I confirm that my beer tastes like beer instead of, well, NOT beer....I'll invite folks over for a cold one.

goathead · Post by **goathead** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:38 am

When you are using corny kegs, take out some clean liter soda bottles also.
They make it handy to take a beer to go as you wander.

Stop by HomeBrew4aHomeBrew camp.
We usually have some on tap.

zachass · Post by **zachass** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:35 am

goathead wrote:When you are using corny kegs, take out some clean liter soda bottles also.
They make it handy to take a beer to go as you wander.

Stop by HomeBrew4aHomeBrew camp.
We usually have some on tap.

Gracious. Thank you.

goathead · Post by **goathead** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:27 pm

Wander on by we usually have a few brewers hanging around.
Started a Best of the Playa brew contest last year, it was a blast.
We hope to have another one next year.

zachass · Post by **zachass** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:32 pm

goathead wrote:Wander on by we usually have a few brewers hanging around.
Started a Best of the Playa brew contest last year, it was a blast.
We hope to have another one next year.

Cool. I'm (hope) getting my full starter kit for Christmas. I've been eyeballing it for a long while now.

I'm hoping to perfect an Oatmeal Chocolate Stout by BM next year, although nitrogen-based beers pose even greater problems on the playa, yeah?

If I can't afford to get a full Co2 setup by the time the burn happens for corny kegs, can I assume you'd hook them up if I gifted them so other brewers could try?

I still have a LOT to learn about brewing and doing anything but put it in bottles.

goathead · Post by **goathead** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:41 pm

You should try bottling at least once, if nothing else just as a learning experience.

One friend of mine bottles in the plastic liter or 2 liter soda bottles, they work great on the playa, good for hiking around with.

Watch ebay for a used cold plate, once you have that just a regular cooler, a tap, small CO2 bottle, some tubing and a few small hose clamps and your set.

and the cory keg of course.

zachass · Post by **zachass** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:48 pm

goathead wrote:You should try bottling at least once, if nothing else just as a learning experience.

One friend of mine bottles in the plastic liter or 2 liter soda bottles, they work great on the playa, good for hiking around with.

Watch ebay for a used cold plate, once you have that just a regular cooler, a tap, small CO2 bottle, some tubing and a few small hose clamps and your set.

and the cory keg of course.

I actually have 48 Grolcsh-style bottles I found cheap a month ago. Those are going to be my starter storage. I'm just not sure if I'll be able to afford the keg setup with the Co2 and everything I'll need for that setup by the time BM rolls around.

Anyways, thanks for the invite and the tips.

goathead · Post by **goathead** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:56 pm

if you need to ask anything just let me know.

FATCAMP · Post by **FATCAMP** » Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:39 am

I'm bringing the 4 tap kegorater out! 30 gallons of beer (cucumber pilsner w/ hint of black pepper, mango spiced wheat, and probably my baltic double chocolate mocha porter for the mornings...then 15 gallons of 9 month mead...5 gallons cider lagered...5gallons home distilled absinthe, my 3 gallons of orange sunshine (orange flavored moonshine)...for cups I am taking a can opener to used cans...clean...sanitize...then glue fur...hole punch...then add mardi gras beads...that way people can save it for later...kinda stoked to have the mini bar and kegorater out there...how many people should I expect being a virgin camp???...anyone want to bullshit and do some tasting??? anyone from the reno area?? advice??