why is the moderator taking sides?

epic · Post by **epic** » Sun Jul 18, 2010 4:37 pm

Isnt the point of a moderator to be a neutrel arbitrator? Why is is she taking sides and selectivly deleting posts based on who she knows?

Isotopia · Post by **Isotopia** » Sun Jul 18, 2010 4:49 pm

Cites please.

Post by **Elderberry** » Sun Jul 18, 2010 5:10 pm

More like deleting posts by knowing the reputation and motivation of the people she has gotten to know doing the posting. I don't see anything wrong with that. If we are all speaking of the same "she", I must say from my personal experience here on eplaya that her calls are pretty much right on--and she has an open mind in hearing both sides of the story.

JK

Post by **Eric** » Sun Jul 18, 2010 5:23 pm

epic, you've been around for 6 years. Do you remember what this place turned into before we had mods? Threads got ugly.

The mods have consistently shown even-handedness, even if someone gets their hand slapped occasionally. The whole point is to make sure the TOS is followed, and the Bmorg has given them leeway in interpreting that because they showed an open mind in their posts before being asked if they would like to volunteer as mods.

Just like the playa, the eplaya works because people have volunteered to put up with the stress of maintaining it.

Kinetik V · Post by **Kinetik V** » Sun Jul 18, 2010 6:11 pm

I don't see any problems with the state of eplaya moderation and I haven't for a very long time.

It's not broke. Don't fix it.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Sun Jul 18, 2010 6:20 pm

Excuse me?

Excuse me?

Would you rather be moderated by an outsider? By someone who didn't know what was going on? By some cold perfect entity without human connection to the issues?

She is a fair-minded person who bends over backwards to get it right. She must spend considerable time reading each and every post--no plonking for her, and you have no idea how my plonking makes this board easier for everyone; I couldn't do this, have no doubt. She's not perfect, but she is, from what I've seen, and I've seen a lot on this board, sincere, hard-working, thoughtful and dedicated. Modding this board can make grown men cry, don't forget that. It can make you bitter and decide to never come to the event again. It's a hideous job and we're damned lucky that 007, that Dork, that AntiM do it, daily and to the best of their ability. They don't get it right 100% of the time, but no one could. This isn't some sort of debate moderatership, it's a messy, imperfect, on-line community with all the nasty conflicts and petty power struggles that implies.

Not only doesn't she get paid, she doesn't get comped a ticket, nor a staff discount for it. I can see that some people might not like the way things work out. I've left boards where I just couldn't fit myself in. It's a big wide internet. I know facebook has burningman groups; I bet the Well does, too. You're going to have to decide if you want to fight the mods here, co-exist peacefully if uneasliy, or go elsewhere.

FaeTora · Post by **FaeTora** » Sun Jul 18, 2010 6:29 pm

Say what you want, but I really don't appreciate you complaining about these moderators. I have not had the pleasure to meet many of them even on here, but I have sorta meet AntiM. She is an amazing resilent woman who volunteers here time to a community she loves and cares for. She does what is best even if it is not what is popular and stays neutral much more than I have seen most moderators on other boards be.

A quixk piece of advise: I won't pick on AntiM. She's out of your league.

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Sun Jul 18, 2010 6:59 pm

epic wrote:Isnt the point of a moderator to be a neutrel arbitrator? Why is is she taking sides and selectivly deleting posts based on who she knows?

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Risky · Post by **Risky** » Sun Jul 18, 2010 7:08 pm

I thought you stepped in shit on a few other threads, but now you've done it.

AntiM rocks this place. She's not going anywhere. We wouldn't let her! Adapt or move along.

If you knew what she has done behind the scenes on your behalf, you would be ashamed of yourself.

Dustdevil · Post by **Dustdevil** » Sun Jul 18, 2010 8:51 pm

Still waiting for those cites!

littleflower · Post by **littleflower** » Sun Jul 18, 2010 9:01 pm

i looked up epic's profile and read the intro to his posts.

all he does is complain. OK, so i didn't spend that much time looking through them .... but try it ....

he is a troll, IMHO. and not worth the energy we are spending on him.

what i am outraged about, however, is antim, mdmf007, and dork not getting a free ticket for all of their volunteer work! wtf????

oneeyeddick · Post by **oneeyeddick** » Sun Jul 18, 2010 9:43 pm

My carport has been missing sides for years, I was unaware of who was taking them.

Thanks for the info, I keep my eye on things from now on.

Fucking moderators...

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Sun Jul 18, 2010 10:01 pm

oneeyeddick wrote:My carport has been missing sides for years, I was unaware of who was taking them.

Thanks for the info, I keep my eye on things from now on.

Fucking moderators...

are you sure it wasn't our bacon........or, is your carport bacon?

oneeyeddick · Post by **oneeyeddick** » Sun Jul 18, 2010 10:03 pm

My carport is white, sir.

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Sun Jul 18, 2010 10:06 pm

oneeyeddick wrote:My carport is white, sir.

so is my sweet, and tender ass.........but, it may still be bacon..........

oneeyeddick · Post by **oneeyeddick** » Sun Jul 18, 2010 10:10 pm

If your ass is tender, you should try soaking it in warm bacon to reduce the swelling.

Token · Post by **Token** » Sun Jul 18, 2010 10:18 pm

The plonk feature works real nice on this board.

Use it.

There are several folks on my list and it makes a big difference.

oneeyeddick · Post by **oneeyeddick** » Sun Jul 18, 2010 10:30 pm

I take back what I said about your beard.

Please don't plonk me , sir.

bluesbob · Post by **bluesbob** » Sun Jul 18, 2010 10:47 pm

I love this place.

oneeyeddick · Post by **oneeyeddick** » Sun Jul 18, 2010 11:12 pm

And this place loves you back, Mr.Bob.

We now have a wide variety of pills available that can easily cure your blues, sir.

Please step to the counter on your left for further assistance.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:46 am

littleflower wrote: what i am outraged about, however, is antim, mdmf007, and dork not getting a free ticket for all of their volunteer work! wtf????

mdmf007 gets one because he works the event for a volenteer department. dork may, I'm not sure. AntiM doesn't feel the need, I guess, at least she hasn't complained, plus many years she get's a discounted on because she's a safety for a fire troop.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:48 am

Like Token suggested I have the op plonked.

Has he complained that we are "sheeple" because we all disagree with him yet? That's his next move, I figure.

FaeTora · Post by **FaeTora** » Mon Jul 19, 2010 11:10 am

Don't know. I just avoid most posts with DVD. All he does is complain. Life has more to it than that and those are the moments I enjoy. Not someones bitching.

I figure some do the same thing to me. I don't claim to be an exception.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Mon Jul 19, 2010 11:37 am

This is "epic" not DVD. It's been a long time since I read a DVD post, but they don't seem much the same to me, as best as I can remember.

Fire_Moose · Post by **Fire_Moose** » Mon Jul 19, 2010 11:57 am

I have all of eplaya plonked except for Fishy, Mdm, antim, dougy, yggy, token, and that one psycho bish

Post by **Eric** » Mon Jul 19, 2010 11:59 am

DVD is more of a Narcissistic Egotist with a Cut and Paste fetish, whereas epic is more of an Aggressive Paranoid with a Potty Mouth and a bad case of Internet Tough-Guy Syndrome. I don't think they're the same.

Both plonked, either way.

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Mon Jul 19, 2010 1:52 pm

Fire_Moose wrote:I have all of eplaya plonked except for Fishy, Mdm, antim, dougy, yggy, token, and that one psycho bish

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Mon Jul 19, 2010 1:52 pm

Eric wrote:DVD is more of a Narcissistic Egotist with a Cut and Paste fetish, whereas epic is more of an Aggressive Paranoid with a Potty Mouth and a bad case of Internet Tough-Guy Syndrome. I don't think they're the same.

Both plonked, either way.

I'm with you, Eric........

*edit: cept I don't have anyone plonked.*

Trishntek · Post by **Trishntek** » Mon Jul 19, 2010 2:06 pm

I'm still scratching my head trying to figure out what this thread has to do with theme camps.

Post by **AntiM** » Mon Jul 19, 2010 2:55 pm

I apologized to epic via private message. I apologized in the thread. I had discussed the post deletion with Dork and another moderator and we agreed it would be a good idea. It was not. I could not restore the posts as had neglected to put them in the Deleted Post thread. I fully and freely admit I fucked up, made an error in judgement, stepped over the line.

I was poised to delete Isotopia's post, but I went back and carefully reread the Community Guidelines.

Personal attacks are not welcome it says. But then, it says you must stand by your words as they "cannot be edited or deleted". Which is crap, mods can delete and edit. We just should not except in the case of spammers or board-wide disruption by someone having serious issues. So if there are personal attacks, my main role will be to tsk tsk at you and shake my virtual finger. I cannot ban users, but I can refer the worst offenders to the admins who have such abilities.

I notified Actiongirl of what was going on, she is my project manager. After taking a break for the weekend, except when I came back for Panda Shoes, I communicated with her again. I told her I had made the mistake and that I would apologize and let epic know he could post what he wanted as long as he wasn't selling anything.

For the record, I receive a gift ticket in 04 or 05??? When we had a mod get together at the sod pyramid, and all the mods had gift tickets that year. beyond Belief, LOL. Last year I did purchase performer tickets. Then I gifted out one of my tier one tickets, and sold the other below cost. There was a problem with the name on the performer ticket, so I was gifted two tickets in case Larry and I had a problem picking them up at the gate. When I got to the gate and found I had two, MyLarry took the extras into town when he went to pick up Fishy from Amtrak. He gave the two performer tickets to a burner with a cardboard sign who didn't have the money for full price gate tickets. The guy did give Larry some cash, but nothing what even a performer ticket would cost, and not because Larry asked. I wasn't there so I don't know how much. This year I purchase tier three for us. The performer ticket is a real pain in the ass, Larry works hard so we can have our fun.

If I do receive a gift ticket in the future, I will still have bought my own ticket in January, and that ticket would become a gift or be sold for below cost. For many years we could do gift tickets, and we did, I know we've spent over $1,000 in gift tickets over the years. This year was less feasible as I spent our spare cash on a trip (well, two).

I am here because I care. I admit when I screw up. I try to wield the Power of Nice. It does not always work. I try to be professional, but sometimes I swear, sometimes my humor goes awry, and sometimes I just want to tell people I think they are self-absorbed idiots in love with their clever remarks. I am an eplayan, I am fallible.

And hey, I've known DVD for years, he's a good guy, just a little annoying now and then. From a moderator standpoint, he's always cooperated with me.

epic is entitled to his opinions. I feel I've answered them. If he isn't happy, well, he can post what he likes. I don't need to worry about him in the long run.

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