Any BLM Citation Stories?

sensi63 · Post by **sensi63** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:50 am

It would be great if all you smokers could roll and smoke your American Spirit on the Playa, share it with friends, and politely tell the LEO that, no sir, this is tobacco, it is not a crime yet insofar as I know. After awhile, I would think that unless they smell weed, they would leave people alone. Make sure you are not carrying anything on your person however...I think its too bad that 200 miles from anywhere, they will hassle/search/fine/arrest you even when you are otherwise acting as a responsible human being. The most intoxicated person I saw all week was obviously drunk, wandering through back streets wanting to know "where can I find the bus to town?"...
Don't do anything on the Playa you would not do in Downtown Reno insofar as substances are concerned, and never consent to being searched. All the freedom we experience is very threatening to some people. Don't be easy meat.
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Flammepus · Post by **Flammepus** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 12:46 am

[quote="Remark"][quote]I would be leary about running up to an officer and spraying him with an unknown liquid.[/quote]

.....Duh![/quote]

Yeah, when there are so many known liquids that I would love to hose an officer down with...

I don't know why people insist on rolling joints that look like a prop from a Cheech and Chong movie. Using a cigarette rolling/packing device makes joints that look like cigarettes. Here in somewhat more enlightened Europe, people commonly mix tobacco in with whatever other material they will be enjoying in their cigarette and blur the situation a little more.

Last thing. Do not underestimate the abilities of undercover LEOs. I doubt that the really good ones are sent to BM unless they are actually on a case that takes them there, but the narc-lings can be just as dangerous if their pack leader has trained them to hunt well. It is also probably used as a training assignment for LEO's as BM is such a target rich environment...

That said, I noticed that LEO presence was definitely down from the year that I percieved as the most heavy handed (2001), but I missed 2003-2006, so my data is incomplete.

--smoke-em if ya got em

Lassen Forge · Post by **Lassen Forge** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 3:16 am

Flammepus wrote:
Last thing. Do not underestimate the abilities of undercover LEOs. I doubt that the really good ones are sent to BM unless they are actually on a case that takes them there, but the narc-lings can be just as dangerous if their pack leader has trained them to hunt well. It is also probably used as a training assignment for LEO's as BM is such a target rich environment...

That said, I noticed that LEO presence was definitely down from the year that I percieved as the most heavy handed (2001), but I missed 2003-2006, so my data is incomplete.

--smoke-em if ya got em

Hee hee hee... they win.

They do send a lot of LE out there, and the undercover ones are scary good. That's why they're there. LOTS this year. And they looked like... well... If I didn't know they were LE I'd say they... um.... well...

When you see them and think "Man, he looks more burner than I" you know, that's fucking something to give you pause..

ANd this year - They were out there in force. I saw them all over. Boatloads of SUV's and carts. Even a couple kewl artcars. When we worked greeters, we watched them set up just inside town, and roust people for open containers, weed, or whatnot.

True, those busted would be candidates for the darwin award, but it really blew my mind, watching them visually searching every vehicle, and pulling people out to bust them. Sheesh! Welcome to 1984, folks!

Flammepus · Post by **Flammepus** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 3:57 am

[quote]Sheesh! Welcome to 1984, folks![/quote]

Sounds like someone is living in the past!:)

Just because a "law compliance officer" is there to "facilitate regulation of public statutes" does not mean that they are the glans of some glistening totalitarian apparatus deftly zeroing in on any potential opening. That would be giving them too much credit. They still seem to rely on ambush tactics and luck most of the time.

It pays to be aware and not call attention to any potentialy illegal activities that you don't want thouroghly investigated.

And pass the Victory Gin!

Lassen Forge · Post by **Lassen Forge** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 7:33 am

Flammepus wrote:
Sheesh! Welcome to 1984, folks!
Sounds like someone is living in the past!:)

Just because a "law compliance officer" is there to "facilitate regulation of public statutes" does not mean that they are the glans of some glistening totalitarian apparatus deftly zeroing in on any potential opening. That would be giving them too much credit. They still seem to rely on ambush tactics and luck most of the time.

It pays to be aware and not call attention to any potentialy illegal activities that you don't want thouroghly investigated.

And pass the Victory Gin!

Sure... you have a light for my victory cig... oh Goldstein! The tobacco fell out. It's those dirty Eurasians. Could never trust them. Glad we have the Noble East Asians on our side.

Living in the unfuture? That would be double plus ungood. Thoughtcrime! is good think we have mebers of the Junior Anti-Sex league to watch you. Will we see you at the Community Centre for the 2 Minutes Hate?

Otherwise the Thought Police will ship you off to war to fight our enemy the Eur... East Asians. Evil Goldsteinian degenerates, the lot of them. Thank Big Brother the Eurasians are there by our sides in this noble battle against the East Asian Hoardes.

AHEM!! Sorry.

That whole thing at the fallopian tubes right after the gate opened this year was really sad. Seriously - they had their own "checkpoints" set up you had to drive thru, and they were looking in each car to see what they could see. Never thought the fuzz would do something so blatant. WHich leads to the axiom...

Brc is home, just like your other hometown is home. If the cops would bust you for something there, don't think they can't, or won't, for something here.

Oh - they're looking to emulate that bust years ago when they caught the fugitive who was wanted for various life terminating offenses, burgurlary, grand theft, mayhem (now *that's* a scary thing to be convicted of), etc.

Gottarun, hon,
Julia, er, bb

Korwedge · Post by **Korwedge** » Mon Aug 16, 2010 10:58 pm

What sort of privacy do we have in regards to LEO? Can LEO enter your marked off camp area without probable cause?

the_weatherguy · Post by **the_weatherguy** » Tue Aug 17, 2010 12:51 am

I don't do any kind of drugs, but what are the laws pertaining to alcoholic beverages on the playa ie: can i enjoy a cold beer while im walking around, or only at camp? I didnt see anything about that in the guide, and I just want to have a good experience and avoid any potential problems.

bluesbob · Post by **bluesbob** » Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:03 am

Korwedge wrote:What sort of privacy do we have in regards to LEO? Can LEO enter your marked off camp area without probable cause?

On another thread someone wrote about smoking pot out on the playa. They were busted, and the LEOs brought him back to his campsite and ransacked his tent. According to that story, the LEOs then tossed everyone elses tent in the camp for good measure.

I showed that story to a lawyer friend. His eyes got big and he said that this was so unConstitutional it was ridiculous. He said even homeless bums sleeping in a park are protected against illegal search and seizure. He said the LEOs better have search warrants.

ibdave · Post by **ibdave** » Tue Aug 17, 2010 7:18 pm

Korwedge wrote:What sort of privacy do we have in regards to LEO? Can LEO enter your marked off camp area without probable cause?

read here and all your wildest dreams will come true...

http://www.burningman.com/preparation/e ... ement.html

dnightshade · Post by **dnightshade** » Tue Aug 17, 2010 7:52 pm

I had a girl come up to me last year Thursday night. I was in a group all from my camp probably about 12-15 people. I was the brightest colored and by far the blink-est. The girl had no backpack, no bike... no gear to speak of. She was wearing a striped polo shirt and jeans. She also was a complete darkwad. She insistently asked me several times if I had any illicit substances to sell her. I told her no several times and then she asked me "well what about your friends." At this point I was simply annoyed and said "Look why don't you find someone else to harass. We can't help you."

Daniel.Crowe · Post by **Daniel.Crowe** » Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:00 pm

I got popped two years in a row!!! They were such J-O's I couldnt believe it. NHP also hammered a buddy of mine for felony trafficking charges after he got pulled over on the highway.
No worries anymore, I take all my supplies via BM Airways!!!
Try pulling over a 182.
See ya all this year. Ill be flying in on the 30th!!!
Safe and sound from the highway!!! :twisted:

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Wed Aug 18, 2010 5:06 am

VikingNomad wrote: About five seconds later I see a police vehicle go past that was waiting there and pointed at us when this couple was asking if we knew anyone with drugs. Most people don't know that most / many police cars have this horn on the front end that also acts as a shotgun microphone and can record a conversation a block away.

A shotgun mike is very different from a wide angle speaker.
Any evidence of this type of product existing, much less being widespread?

Eklypz · Post by **Eklypz** » Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:57 am

[quote="Daniel.Crowe"]I got popped two years in a row!!! They were such J-O's I couldnt believe it. NHP also hammered a buddy of mine for felony trafficking charges after he got pulled over on the highway.
No worries anymore, I take all my supplies via BM Airways!!!
Try pulling over a 182.
See ya all this year. Ill be flying in on the 30th!!!
Safe and sound from the highway!!! :twisted:[/quote]

And you wonder why you get busted.

LostinReno · Post by **LostinReno** » Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:01 pm

the_weatherguy wrote:I don't do any kind of drugs, but what are the laws pertaining to alcoholic beverages on the playa ie: can i enjoy a cold beer while im walking around, or only at camp? I didnt see anything about that in the guide, and I just want to have a good experience and avoid any potential problems.

I'm guessing your serious....yes, you can walk around with alcohol, just don't give any to a minor. Nevada is a crap state for drug laws, but they love to keep people drunk 24/7!

the_weatherguy · Post by **the_weatherguy** » Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:45 pm

thanks reno i kinda figured that, just wanted to make sure.

junglesmacks · Post by **junglesmacks** » Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:18 pm

Daniel.Crowe wrote:I got popped two years in a row!!! They were such J-O's I couldnt believe it. NHP also hammered a buddy of mine for felony trafficking charges after he got pulled over on the highway.
No worries anymore, I take all my supplies via BM Airways!!!
Try pulling over a 182.
See ya all this year. Ill be flying in on the 30th!!!
Safe and sound from the highway!!!

"I got popped two years in a row!!!"

Why does this not surprise me given this post. Dumbass. You deserve to make it 3 in a row.

mudpuppy000 · Post by **mudpuppy000** » Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:40 pm

junglesmacks wrote:
Daniel.Crowe wrote:I got popped two years in a row!!! They were such J-O's I couldnt believe it. NHP also hammered a buddy of mine for felony trafficking charges after he got pulled over on the highway.
No worries anymore, I take all my supplies via BM Airways!!!
Try pulling over a 182.
See ya all this year. Ill be flying in on the 30th!!!
Safe and sound from the highway!!!
"I got popped two years in a row!!!"

Why does this not surprise me given this post. Dumbass. You deserve to make it 3 in a row.

Real rocket scientist there...

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:52 pm

Or a clever cop

junglesmacks · Post by **junglesmacks** » Fri Aug 20, 2010 6:04 am

gyre wrote:Or a clever cop

junglesmacks · Post by **junglesmacks** » Fri Aug 20, 2010 7:08 am

junglesmacks wrote:
gyre wrote:Or a clever cop

Yup. Check out this gem:

http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic. ... 316#583316

I think we've found our first undercover of the burn!

*ding*ding*ding*ding*

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Fri Aug 20, 2010 7:11 am

Legal education sounds like a good idea.

Posting travel plans, not so much.

mudpuppy000 · Post by **mudpuppy000** » Fri Aug 20, 2010 8:25 am

Too funny, lol.

junglesmacks · Post by **junglesmacks** » Fri Aug 20, 2010 8:29 am

mudpuppy000 wrote:Too funny, lol.

lol.. thought so too. I've got some "gear" for him to take out for me. Better get right in touch. Not sure how well he can fly with balls in his mouth though..

LostinReno · Post by **LostinReno** » Fri Aug 20, 2010 2:34 pm

junglesmacks wrote:
mudpuppy000 wrote:Too funny, lol.
lol.. thought so too. I've got some "gear" for him to take out for me. Better get right in touch. Not sure how well he can fly with balls in his mouth though..

Bhahahahaha! It might almost be worth going to Amendment 21 for a good laugh. I'm mildly curious.

Boijoy · Post by **Boijoy** » Fri Aug 20, 2010 3:06 pm

yeah Lost.. lets make a party of it.. bring bags of Epsom Salt or oregeno or something.

no. well probably get busted for that. it IS Reno.
Ok,, lets bring like 50 gallons of water for him to carry out to the playa for us.

LostinReno · Post by **LostinReno** » Fri Aug 20, 2010 3:57 pm

Boijoy wrote:Ok,, lets bring like 50 gallons of water for him to carry out to the playa for us.

That is just awesomeness! "Here Daniel.Crowe sir, here's our stuff, thanks for taking it out there for us" ::smile sweetly and walk away::

dinks · Post by **dinks** » Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:22 pm

A21 on the 25th, sounds like fun. I say we each bring a cardboard box with a cinder block in it.

cablemonkey · Post by **cablemonkey** » Fri Aug 20, 2010 9:45 pm

gyre wrote:
VikingNomad wrote: About five seconds later I see a police vehicle go past that was waiting there and pointed at us when this couple was asking if we knew anyone with drugs. Most people don't know that most / many police cars have this horn on the front end that also acts as a shotgun microphone and can record a conversation a block away.
A shotgun mike is very different from a wide angle speaker.
Any evidence of this type of product existing, much less being widespread?

No such product exists. This is pure stoner paranoia.

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Fri Aug 20, 2010 11:00 pm

I didn't think so.
And I have a new police supply catalog right here.

And along with a narrow focus mike, comes very touchy aiming.
Would be fun trying to pick up individuals against the background hum of brc.
Rifle scopes aren't unknown for this type.

A parabolic or long mike could be used to fish for conversations, tents being acoustically transparent, if you hid them somehow, and were bored enough to try.
Even the small ones look obvious unless concealed though.

The better stuff only shows up in rather specialized catalogs, but you can't beat the laws of physics.

Pink Daddy · Post by **Pink Daddy** » Sat Aug 21, 2010 3:44 pm

I really want to take a crapload of oregeno, throw it in a backpack, and go see this guy. When asked why I'm taking so much oregeno to Burning Man, I'll say that my camp is cooking pizzas every day the size of a minivan. I'll snag one of those camcorder sunglasses and record every LEO that's there doing the undercover thing, then print the pictures on flyers and hand them out to everyone.

The flyer will be labeled 'Have you seen this undercover LEO?'

Any BLM Citation Stories?

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