Thinking about making a list of those that are Morons to me

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:23 am

And really don't care what anyone has to say about it!

No, "what say you"!

Just gonna sit back and wait!

Post by **AntiM** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 4:19 am

Just as long as you don't put that list here. You know you can't start attack threads, and yes, I would consider such a list an attack. It would be deleted right away, by any of the mods, or even the admins.

If eplaya is getting to be too much, walk away and relax in the real world.

Post by **actiongrl** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 6:39 am

Agreed. Cannot figure what the point of telling us might be unless you planned to post your list here, so please don't. We don't want to know & don't welcome such.

Trishntek · Post by **Trishntek** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:24 am

DVD Burner wrote:

And really don't care what anyone has to say about it!

oneeyeddick · Post by **oneeyeddick** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:37 pm

That is an oxymoron.

Post by **Sham** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:04 am

He is gone from this forum, and according to other posts, he will be off here for a while.

I don't think I have ever seen a more accepting group of people on a forum such as this one, ever. I think this is because many of us have met, or may meet each other at some point on this dusty road of ours.

Should the OP actually show up on the playa this year, he may make some friends here and earn the respect of many of us. I would like to be the first to offer him a cold PBR should he show up.

Bob · Post by **Bob** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:16 am

AntiM wrote:Just as long as you don't put that list here. You know you can't start attack threads, and yes, I would consider such a list an attack. It would be deleted right away, by any of the mods, or even the admins.

You're very charitable. I would have been deleting vanity threads from the get-go, right after disabling Flash embeds.

Post by **AntiM** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 4:44 am

Bob wrote:
AntiM wrote:Just as long as you don't put that list here. You know you can't start attack threads, and yes, I would consider such a list an attack. It would be deleted right away, by any of the mods, or even the admins.
You're very charitable. I would have been deleting vanity threads from the get-go, right after disabling Flash embeds.

Oh, I would if I thought I could get away with it . I'm still operating under the old constraints of *gasp* you deleted a syllable!!!! Deleting anything but outright spam is still a sin according to some, and while I bend the edges of that old policy, I feel I still have to walk a fine line.

Trishntek · Post by **Trishntek** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 5:35 am

Shambala wrote:

Should the OP actually show up on the playa this year, he may make some friends here and earn the respect of many of us. I would like to be the first to offer him a cold PBR should he show up.

You wouldn't be suckin' up just to stay off 'the list' would you? Hmmmmmm?

Post by **Elderberry** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 6:01 am

AntiM wrote:
Bob wrote:
AntiM wrote:Just as long as you don't put that list here. You know you can't start attack threads, and yes, I would consider such a list an attack. It would be deleted right away, by any of the mods, or even the admins.
You're very charitable. I would have been deleting vanity threads from the get-go, right after disabling Flash embeds.
Oh, I would if I thought I could get away with it . I'm still operating under the old constraints of *gasp* you deleted a syllable!!!! Deleting anything but outright spam is still a sin according to some, and while I bend the edges of that old policy, I feel I still have to walk a fine line.

Hey, what's the worst that could happen? You get fired from a job you don't get paid for? Then you could just come here and post what you want and have fun not being insulted and yelled at.

Post by **AntiM** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 6:57 am

Well, you're no fun at all.

Kinetik V · Post by **Kinetik V** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 8:47 am

AntiM wrote: Oh, I would if I thought I could get away with it . I'm still operating under the old constraints of *gasp* you deleted a syllable!!!! Deleting anything but outright spam is still a sin according to some, and while I bend the edges of that old policy, I feel I still have to walk a fine line.

It's always easier to ask for forgiveness than it is for permission. And sometimes things just have to be done for the greater good.....

Post by **AntiM** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 8:49 am

The slippery slope is a dangerous path. I'm already on it.

Post by **Elderberry** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 8:55 am

Bay Bridge Sue wrote:... like deleting individual posts.. and entire threads?...

Oh, it offended me... so I deleted those posts... I'm so sorry.

Of coursse, it's EASIEST to be the one who GRANTS the permission... then forgiveness isn't necessary.

If that were the cas, yes. But it doesn't seem to be the case here. The posts in question are offensive to the majority of the eplaya community. Not to mention the poor impression and vial tone they set for new members of the community.

Lassen Forge · Post by **Lassen Forge** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 8:57 am

Kinetic V wrote: It's always easier to ask for forgiveness than it is for permission. And sometimes things just have to be done for the greater good.....

... like deleting individual posts.. and entire threads?...

Oh, it offended me... so I deleted those posts... I'm so sorry.

Of coursse, it's EASIEST to be the one who GRANTS the permission... then forgiveness isn't necessary.

AntiM wrote:The slippery slope is a dangerous path. I'm already on it.

What's the correct course of action to provide the greatest good? Is it Ethical? Correct?

Now, define those terms... so it applies to EVERYBODY. Not an easy thing. As I once told my employees, each of whom had different issues on a rule that came down at work...

We are mere mortals... we try our best, but we make mistakes. If you don't like them, well, I'm sorry... and fuck you!

(Yeah, my employees got a kick outta that one!)

Post by **AntiM** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:03 am

jkisha wrote:
Bay Bridge Sue wrote:... like deleting individual posts.. and entire threads?...

Oh, it offended me... so I deleted those posts... I'm so sorry.

Of coursse, it's EASIEST to be the one who GRANTS the permission... then forgiveness isn't necessary.
If that were the cas, yes. But it doesn't seem to be the case here. The posts in question are offensive to the majority of the eplaya community. Not to mention the poor impression and vial tone they set for new members of the community.

The posts may be offensive, but is it a matter of quantity? Quality? Individually, none violates the TOS. If so, they would be deleted already. Therefore, what becomes the criteria? Too many? Who gets the axe then? Then what? Time frame? What becomes of our top ten posters? Slippery, slippery slope.

All we end up with is more rules. Censorship. More rules.

The new members? Surely they can learn what is and is not douchery here. We don't have to hand them a checklist do we? I thought we already had one in place in the TOS and guidelines. How far in babysitting do we want to go?

mudpuppy000 · Post by **mudpuppy000** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 10:59 am

AntiM wrote:
jkisha wrote:
Bay Bridge Sue wrote:... like deleting individual posts.. and entire threads?...

Oh, it offended me... so I deleted those posts... I'm so sorry.

Of coursse, it's EASIEST to be the one who GRANTS the permission... then forgiveness isn't necessary.
If that were the cas, yes. But it doesn't seem to be the case here. The posts in question are offensive to the majority of the eplaya community. Not to mention the poor impression and vial tone they set for new members of the community.
The posts may be offensive, but is it a matter of quantity? Quality? Individually, none violates the TOS. If so, they would be deleted already. Therefore, what becomes the criteria? Too many? Who gets the axe then? Then what? Time frame? What becomes of our top ten posters? Slippery, slippery slope.

All we end up with is more rules. Censorship. More rules.

The new members? Surely they can learn what is and is not douchery here. We don't have to hand them a checklist do we? I thought we already had one in place in the TOS and guidelines. How far in babysitting do we want to go?

Some sort of rating system might be handy on here. Users would be able to rate up/down threads on their usefulness, so garbage posts get sorted to the bottom of the pile. Of course that depends on changing/upgrading the bulletin board software and I doubt that will happen.

Post by **Elderberry** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 11:08 am

The board needs to be upgraded. Rating system would be great.

And AntiM, I like to think the reason people are chosen to be moderators is that they have the intelligence and fairness to make those judgement calls when necessary. And no matter how "fair" a moderator is, you can please some of the people all of the time, all of the people some of the time, but you can never please all of the people all of the time. Then you just delete their account.

(Just kidding)

Post by **mdmf007** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 11:23 am

jkisha wrote:The board needs to be upgraded. Rating system would be great.

And AntiM, I like to think the reason people are chosen to be moderators is that they have the intelligence and fairness to make those judgement calls when necessary. And no matter how "fair" a moderator is, you can please some of the people all of the time, all of the people some of the time, but you can never please all of the people all of the time. Then you just delete their account. (Just kidding)

I agree, and of course the regulars here know that is is less than a dozen people that stir the pot and antagonize posters. Outside the spam, and ads by first timers this dozen people or so create 99% of the drama that we as mods have to deal with. Lots of discussion goes on behind the curtains and the same names come up again and again.

Upgrades are in the works - I do not have a lot of details on the final product but know its in the works.

Post by **AntiM** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:07 pm

The potential upgrade I saw did have a rating feature available. You could rate users too, but that's just mean.

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:35 pm

mdmf007 wrote:
jkisha wrote:The board needs to be upgraded. Rating system would be great.

And AntiM, I like to think the reason people are chosen to be moderators is that they have the intelligence and fairness to make those judgement calls when necessary. And no matter how "fair" a moderator is, you can please some of the people all of the time, all of the people some of the time, but you can never please all of the people all of the time. Then you just delete their account. (Just kidding)
I agree, and of course the regulars here know that is is less than a dozen people that stir the pot and antagonize posters. Outside the spam, and ads by first timers this dozen people or so create 99% of the drama that we as mods have to deal with. Lots of discussion goes on behind the curtains and the same names come up again and again.

Upgrades are in the works - I do not have a lot of details on the final product but know its in the works.

*hoping to be 13 or higher........*

Trishntek · Post by **Trishntek** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 5:25 pm

Ygmir wrote:

*hoping to be 13 or higher........*

Oh you're such a big softy,,,, you have nothing to worry!

I, on the other hand,,, am a wee bit nervous,,,

Kinetik V · Post by **Kinetik V** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:07 pm

Holy smokes...did I read that right? An upgrade to the eplaya could be in the works?

Quick call 911, I'm about to fall over in shock! Seriously...it's about time. Of course any upgrade will be met with the usual resistance, bitching, whining, and complaining...hell I may even be one of them doing it...but in the end if it takes this place off life support and it thrives again...I hope it gets done.

It really is all about community. And while we may not always get along...I would really miss this board if it went away.

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:09 pm

Trishntek wrote:Ygmir wrote:
*hoping to be 13 or higher........*
Oh you're such a big softy,,,, you have nothing to worry!

I, on the other hand,,, am a wee bit nervous,,,

so, if you're nervous, does that make you a big "hardy"?

Trishntek · Post by **Trishntek** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:21 pm

ygmir wrote:
Trishntek wrote:Ygmir wrote:
*hoping to be 13 or higher........*
Oh you're such a big softy,,,, you have nothing to worry!

I, on the other hand,,, am a wee bit nervous,,,
so, if you're nervous, does that make you a big "hardy"?

Not big,,,, wee!

Isotopia · Post by **Isotopia** » Thu Mar 03, 2011 12:19 am

Some sort of rating system might be handy on here.

Oh great. Another proposal for tyranny by the majority.

Post by **Sham** » Thu Mar 03, 2011 3:29 am

Trishntek wrote:Shambala wrote:
Should the OP actually show up on the playa this year, he may make some friends here and earn the respect of many of us. I would like to be the first to offer him a cold PBR should he show up.
You wouldn't be suckin' up just to stay off 'the list' would you? Hmmmmmm?

Hey Trishntek, what would make you say that? I always loved and respected DVD! I have read every word that he posted, be they cut and paste or right from his own brilliant mind. He's my hero.

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Thu Mar 03, 2011 5:00 am

Bob wrote: You're very charitable. I would have been deleting vanity threads from the get-go, right after disabling Flash embeds.

Adblock takes care of the flash stuff too.

Post by **AntiM** » Thu Mar 03, 2011 5:28 am

Kinetic V wrote:Holy smokes...did I read that right? An upgrade to the eplaya could be in the works?

Quick call 911, I'm about to fall over in shock! Seriously...it's about time. Of course any upgrade will be met with the usual resistance, bitching, whining, and complaining...hell I may even be one of them doing it...but in the end if it takes this place off life support and it thrives again...I hope it gets done.

It really is all about community. And while we may not always get along...I would really miss this board if it went away.

I saw the proposed upgrade months ago. I don't think it will be swift, but it is in the works. I'd rather have them take their time than rush it. I'm comfy either way. Or maybe resigned.

Kinetik V · Post by **Kinetik V** » Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:44 am

Isotopia wrote:
Some sort of rating system might be handy on here.
Oh great. Another proposal for tyranny by the majority.

Seriously? You're whining about a ratings system?
Content is king. You post good content. No bullshit, tell it like it is statements, and some of your posts are almost legendary for hitting where it hurts with the truth.

You worry for nothing. Now shut up, quit whining, and go find another annoying pic to put at the bottom of your posts or go shop for shoes or something.