International Burner Package

TomServo · Post by **TomServo** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 2:57 pm

I don't, and I don't think anyone else should either. I want them to use the stuff in the crate, and return it when they leave. If necessary, Ill keep the soul of their first born as a deposit.

graidawg · Post by **graidawg** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 3:24 pm

its a great idea! i shall be sending my first borns soul post haste to ensure a crate (its non-returnable btw) some sort of tarp for shade/dust reduction may be a good idea too or have i missed that?

TomServo · Post by **TomServo** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 4:47 pm

I may have missed the tarp thing, but its part of the crate...with stakes and rope. Can't provide poles, but you might be able to pursueade other burners to act as poles, and feed em beer.....or just tie it off your vehicle.

Dr. Pyro · Post by **Dr. Pyro** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 5:37 pm

Let me just interject right here: Barbie Death Village was "home" to the International Burner Hostel their last year, 2008. They were wonderful people and exciting campmates. However, when they left their entire area was trashed (got a huge red spot on the MOOP Map afterwards) and though it isn't a permanent stain on our otherwise stellar reputation, it gives me concern that many, if not most, of the people there are more interested in the parties than being good stewards of the playa. Would we invite them back? Probably, but on a much shorter leash. I appreciate international travelers, which is why Barbie Death Village is home to so many, but the Hostel (or whatever it's reincarnation may be) needs to have the capacity of policing its inhabitants or otherwise they may well sow the seeds of their own distruction.

TomServo · Post by **TomServo** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 6:00 pm

Dr. Pyro wrote:Let me just interject right here: Barbie Death Village was "home" to the International Burner Hostel their last year, 2008. They were wonderful people and exciting campmates. However, when they left their entire area was trashed (got a huge red spot on the MOOP Map afterwards) and though it isn't a permanent stain on our otherwise stellar reputation, it gives me concern that many, if not most, of the people there are more interested in the parties than being good stewards of the playa. Would we invite them back? Probably, but on a much shorter leash. I appreciate international travelers, which is why Barbie Death Village is home to so many, but the Hostel (or whatever it's reincarnation may be) needs to have the capacity of policing its inhabitants or otherwise they may well sow the seeds of their own distruction.

Im not suprised...and Im not doing a hostel...nor am I bringing truck loads of gear for people NOT in my camp. Perhaps this is a smaller, cleaner way to a foriegn problem? Do you know Paula? Rose lady?

moonrise · Post by **moonrise** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 6:28 pm

pizzamancer wrote:This is an awesome idea. Most of the Burners I know who fly in from Japan (like me) buy stuff and just throw it away. I would much rather see someone show up with a nice bottle of scotch to share than to waste resources on stuff they will only use during the burn and then trash.

I borrowed a bike from Elliot two years in a row now, and it is an awesome playa gift.

Thanks again Elliot.

TS, what about trying to collect these items mentioned above for refurbishing the kits? It seems a crying shame this gear goes to waste!!
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I may have assorted useful items, I can bring them to the playa and if they aren't needed, I can leave space in my truck and take them back with me.

I won't know what I'll have until we get closer.
Btw, often yard sales here are free on Sundays!
Usually many useful items & free, especially if BM is mentioned.

Edit to clarify post

TomServo · Post by **TomServo** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 7:16 pm

moonrise wrote:
pizzamancer wrote:This is an awesome idea. Most of the Burners I know who fly in from Japan (like me) buy stuff and just throw it away. I would much rather see someone show up with a nice bottle of scotch to share than to waste resources on stuff they will only use during the burn and then trash.

I borrowed a bike from Elliot two years in a row now, and it is an awesome playa gift.

Thanks again Elliot.
TS, what about trying to collect these items mentioned above for refurbishing the kits? It seems a crying shame this gear goes to waste!!
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I may have assorted useful items, I can bring them to the playa and if they aren't needed, I can leave space in my truck and take them back with me.

I won't know what I'll have until we get closer.
Btw, often yard sales here are free on Sundays!
Usually many useful items & free, especially if BM is mentioned.

Edit to clarify post

As long as they're put back in the bag...I guess I could take them...But then, Im not posting as a public trash bin. If they want to discard of several pieces of gear, that should be ok. And, if they have it in a plastic crate, all the better. I don't want to be the only one though! I was hoping other mainland burners, with extra space might help out....on a one on one arrangement. Were still a ways away from BM, and even if they don't show, it would make a splendid gift for some poor burner...as long as they take it back.

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 7:42 pm

Some people think the problem of traveling with a 50 pound limit is just funny.

The guy I promised my extra gear to in 2009 thought it was hilarious when it was gone, and he was at the burn with no tent or sleeping bag.

TomServo · Post by **TomServo** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 7:49 pm

This is for over seas burners only. 50 lbs...or camping gear may cause a delay in OUR customs..I like seeing more and more countries represented at Burning Man. Id like to see some Egyptians and possibly Lybians this year! Did my Iraqi quota..

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:01 pm

It's still a great thing you're doing.

Not sure you'll get much help though.

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:04 pm

TomServo wrote:This is for over seas burners only. 50 lbs...or camping gear may cause a delay in OUR customs..I like seeing more and more countries represented at Burning Man. Id like to see some Egyptians and possibly Lybians this year! Did my Iraqi quota..

Don't know if it's true anymore, but the llc told me a few years ago that there were more foreign burners than from the east side of the usa.
It's not from lack of interest.

TomServo · Post by **TomServo** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:42 pm

gyre wrote:It's still a great thing you're doing.

Not sure you'll get much help though.

I doubt I will..

moonrise · Post by **moonrise** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:05 pm

Of course, no junk/trash TS.

I'll have a better idea of my haul away capacity when the festival is closer.

I'll also have a better idea of storage space under my ski shack of a house. LOL
Locals can help a lot, haul/store etc, if circumstances are right.

Maybe call it: 'gear over here for those who aren't near' heheheh

graidawg · Post by **graidawg** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 1:25 am

tom servo dont talk yourself out of this its a really great idea. I can manage without so much so called essentials when i go camping, but manage is the operational word there, having someone help out with the basics means to me for one i can bring moe cool stuff and have a better time and having someone to give it back too, means i feel good that next year someone else will benefit.
just saying

TomServo · Post by **TomServo** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 8:20 pm

Dropman wrote:
TomServo wrote:It will be gifted/loaned. Preferably returned to my camp, before they leave.

Felt, that in the absence of the International Burners Hostel, there should be some sort of assistance for our neighbors across the ponds.
Absolutly a great idea and I hope it all works out.

But for me it is also a bit of a challenge (as a BM virgin) to get to BM on my own (from NL) with all the stuff I require (tent, sl bags, etc), buy food and water locally and get to BRC on my own. Then perhaps hook up to a camp.
Just my self reliance kick, I guess

But again: great job TomServo!

Dropman

HEY! Dont you fly into BRC?

TomServo · Post by **TomServo** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 8:54 pm

TomServo wrote:
Dropman wrote:
TomServo wrote:It will be gifted/loaned. Preferably returned to my camp, before they leave.

Felt, that in the absence of the International Burners Hostel, there should be some sort of assistance for our neighbors across the ponds.
Absolutly a great idea and I hope it all works out.

But for me it is also a bit of a challenge (as a BM virgin) to get to BM on my own (from NL) with all the stuff I require (tent, sl bags, etc), buy food and water locally and get to BRC on my own. Then perhaps hook up to a camp.
Just my self reliance kick, I guess

But again: great job TomServo!

Dropman

HEY! Dont you fly into BRC?

Never Mind!

Trishntek · Post by **Trishntek** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:08 pm

TS, what size tarps you have in mind and how many would be a good guesstimate?

TomServo · Post by **TomServo** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:11 pm

Trishntek wrote:TS, what size tarps you have in mind and how many would be a good guesstimate?

I figure 10x10 is a managable size...and either blue or silver...I learned my lesson from green tarps.

And 1 tarp. just the basics.

Trishntek · Post by **Trishntek** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:18 pm

TS, check your PM

TomServo · Post by **TomServo** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:28 pm

Trishntek wrote:TS, check your PM

check yours

Trishntek · Post by **Trishntek** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:47 pm

This is an awesome idea and I know it will take a huge load, LITERALLY, off the backs of migratory burners. Thanks Tom for picking up the slack and may good blessings be yours!

graidawg · Post by **graidawg** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 1:12 am

Trishntek[color=red] wrote:This is an awesome idea and I know it will take a huge load, LITERALLY, off the backs of migratory burners.[/color] Thanks Tom for picking up the slack and may good blessings be yours!

It has mine! although now i do feel about 13.2% less burny which i intend to make up by bringing things that burn and alcohol with mextra weight allowance

Trishntek · Post by **Trishntek** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 10:07 am

So it has been a few days and I'm wondering what the status of the project may be. Keep us informed as to what you need as things progress.

TomServo · Post by **TomServo** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 10:48 am

Trishntek wrote:So it has been a few days and I'm wondering what the status of the project may be. Keep us informed as to what you need as things progress.

Havent recieced anything in the mail. Ive got a few plastic crates already, and am gathering stuff as I find it. Been on Cheaper Than Dirt alot lately.

graidawg · Post by **graidawg** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 10:59 am

this is keeping my hopes of BM alive, knowing i dont need bring and find this stuff before i get there. my budget has just got a lot smaller and i think without Tom doing this i would have done what i usually do and said well theres always next year

FIGJAM · Post by **FIGJAM** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:14 am

There is no NEXT YEAR.

Get ur ass to Burning Man!!!!!!

graidawg · Post by **graidawg** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:28 am

figjam i know. its just when you have a choice between somewhere to live and a week in the desert in 5 months time its difficult to justify spending your rent on airfare.

i mean i have justified it. soon as i get laid off i'm buying my plane ticket but i'm not looking forward to being homeless with any real enthusiasm ive done it before and its no fun

Ninzy · Post by **Ninzy** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 4:48 pm

Seriously TS this is just plain awesome. You rock! Makes the thought of coming to BM this year just that little bit easier knowing this!

maryanimal · Post by **maryanimal** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 5:27 pm

How about some of the International burners who'll buy there own stuff to camp at the burn, donate what they buy to Tom and then they'll have it for next year, or some other burner from far away lands be the recipients, instead of just throwing it away.

Whaddaya think?

natep1098 · Post by **natep1098** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:11 am

I may or may not need to make use of one of these marvelous kits, will update as the time gets closer. thank you so much kind sir.

International Burner Package

Awesome