Genius vs. Brilliance

SED · Post by **SED** » Sat Aug 14, 2004 9:13 pm

What distinguishes pure genius from mere brilliance? Give examples of both. For example, the music of Green Day is brilliant in my opinion, but it seems beyond dispute that the music of The Clash is genius.

DE FACTO · Post by **DE FACTO** » Sat Aug 14, 2004 9:26 pm

This oughtta be good.

Love to hear only your answer.

DE FACTO · Post by **DE FACTO** » Sat Aug 14, 2004 9:27 pm

Oh!

Wait a minute......we just did.

ha.

Creplach · Post by **Creplach** » Sat Aug 14, 2004 11:43 pm

Genius is Pain

cowboyangel · Post by **cowboyangel** » Sat Aug 14, 2004 11:54 pm

Rajneesh(Osho) is pure genius. Alan Watts is brilliant

Isotopia · Post by **Isotopia** » Sun Aug 15, 2004 4:42 am

Rajneesh(Osho) is pure genius.

Anyone who can sucker hs devotees into buying him 20+ Rolls Royce Corniches HAS to be a genius.

cowboyangel · Post by **cowboyangel** » Sun Aug 15, 2004 10:15 am

right Iso

now
Lincoln=pure genius
Kennedy=brilliant

JezebelinHell · Post by **JezebelinHell** » Sun Aug 15, 2004 10:24 am

A genius has an IQ over 140.

Hope that helps.

cowboyangel · Post by **cowboyangel** » Sun Aug 15, 2004 10:39 am

I wouldn't be so quick to embrace the IQ measurement standard Jez. There's been alot of studies on it as not being able to quantify true intelligence and extraordinary ability. I 'd rather focus on results and achievment of individuals mentioned in this thread

JezebelinHell · Post by **JezebelinHell** » Sun Aug 15, 2004 10:41 am

I was just being a smartass. Oh, and 'a lot' is two words (that's my big peeve).

cowboyangel · Post by **cowboyangel** » Sun Aug 15, 2004 10:44 am

I'm not a good speller and I even got an English lit degree to prove it. but thanks

JezebelinHell · Post by **JezebelinHell** » Sun Aug 15, 2004 10:46 am

I'm still working on my English degree, but the 'alot' thing just really bugs the hell out of me for some reason. Maybe just because I see it spelled incorrectly more often than correctly.

waltsnipe · Post by **waltsnipe** » Mon Aug 16, 2004 11:01 am

Todd Rundgren is a genius, while "brilliant" is something British people will say about damn near anything.

waltsnipe (stealing somewhat from Bill Hicks)

Simply Joel · Post by **Simply Joel** » Mon Aug 16, 2004 11:28 am

cowboyangel wrote:right Iso

now
Lincoln=pure genius
Kennedy=brilliant

what?

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Mon Aug 16, 2004 3:48 pm

cowboyangel wrote:I wouldn't be so quick to embrace the IQ measurement standard Jez. There's been alot of studies on it as not being able to quantify true intelligence and extraordinary ability. I 'd rather focus on results and achievment of individuals mentioned in this thread

Yup. Now go over and say that on Rex's thread.

cowboyangel · Post by **cowboyangel** » Mon Aug 16, 2004 4:48 pm

Satan=genius
God=brilliance

ya gotta give the devil his due for duping god for christs sake

SED · Post by **SED** » Mon Aug 16, 2004 4:58 pm

How do you know it wasn't all part of the God's plan? A plan which he may not be finished enacting and in you too may have a role?

Maybe whatcha oughta do, son is spend a little time with the Good Book and get right with yer Jesus.

cowboyangel · Post by **cowboyangel** » Mon Aug 16, 2004 5:25 pm

I'm a Hindu

Simply Joel · Post by **Simply Joel** » Mon Aug 16, 2004 7:18 pm

cowboyangel wrote:I'm a Hindu

that, a buck and a refillable cup will get you a cup of coffee at most convenience stores.

cowboyangel · Post by **cowboyangel** » Mon Aug 16, 2004 7:19 pm

Hey..saw your dress and red beard..cute

Simply Joel · Post by **Simply Joel** » Mon Aug 16, 2004 7:25 pm

cowboyangel wrote:Hey..saw your dress and red beard..cute

wouldn't that make a great cardboard stand-up, directing traffice 24/7 somewhere on the espanande?

Fat SAM · Post by **Fat SAM** » Mon Aug 16, 2004 9:21 pm

Stevie Ray Vaughn - Brilliant
Jimi Hendrix - Genius
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Stephen Hawking - Brilliant
Albert Einstein - Genius
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Yoyo Ma - Brilliant
Yoyo Ball - Genius

nipples · Post by **nipples** » Mon Aug 16, 2004 9:53 pm

From some of the responses, I'd say maybe there are different values accorded to the terms, and definition is in order.

Do some think it "better" to be brilliant than genius.

Is not brilliant occaionally so, genius inherently/always so?

Main Entry: 1bril·liant
Pronunciation: 'bril-y&nt
Function: adjective
Etymology: French brillant, present participle of briller to shine, from Italian brillare
1 : very bright : GLITTERING <a brilliant light>
2 a : STRIKING, DISTINCTIVE <a brilliant example> b : distinguished by unusual mental keenness or alertness
synonym see BRIGHT

Main Entry: ge·nius
Pronunciation: 'jEn-y&s, 'jE-nE-&s
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural ge·nius·es or ge·nii /-nE-"I/
Etymology: Latin, tutelary spirit, natural inclinations, from gignere to beget
1 a plural genii : an attendant spirit of a person or place b plural usually genii : a person who influences another for good or bad
2 : a strong leaning or inclination : PENCHANT
3 a : a peculiar, distinctive, or identifying character or spirit b : the associations and traditions of a place c : a personification or embodiment especially of a quality or condition
4 plural usually genii : SPIRIT, JINNI
5 plural usually geniuses a : a single strongly marked capacity or aptitude <had a genius for getting along with boys -- Mary Ross> b : extraordinary intellectual power especially as manifested in creative activity c : a person endowed with transcendent mental superiority; especially : a person with a very high intelligence quotient
synonym see GIFT

cowboyangel · Post by **cowboyangel** » Mon Aug 16, 2004 10:35 pm

lightbulbs=brilliance
coolneon=genius

Fat SAM · Post by **Fat SAM** » Mon Aug 16, 2004 10:50 pm

Shooting star - brilliant (but alas, fleeting)
Zen Sand garden - genius (fleeting, but it's planned obsolescence)

Rob the Wop · Post by **Rob the Wop** » Mon Aug 16, 2004 11:43 pm

Brilliant = Michaelangelo Buonarrata
Genius = Leonardo Da Vinci

Simply Joel · Post by **Simply Joel** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 4:17 am

i prefer not to make such comparisons because it might provide insight to what i value and/or don't value.

Lilly Flower · Post by **Lilly Flower** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 4:23 am

Simply Joel wrote:i prefer not to make such comparisons because it might provide insight to what i value and/or don't value.

Oh my, I agree.

There is no such thing as a Genius. What people call a "Genius" are just indivisuals put on a pedastal by most that dont understand that who they are worshiping is just good or perhaps brilliant at what they do.

Goodness.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 9:43 am

Simply Joel wrote:
cowboyangel wrote:I'm a Hindu
that, a buck and a refillable cup will get you a cup of coffee at most convenience stores.

That with or without cream?

Rob the Wop · Post by **Rob the Wop** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 9:48 am

Rob the Wop wrote:Brilliant = Michaelangelo Buonarrata
Genius = Leonardo Da Vinci

I'd make a fair claim on my example.
Michaelangelo was incredibley talented, but fairly one-dimensionable. His art was incredbile, showing talents far beyond the norm.
But Leonardo was incredibley talented in many fields. Some of his engineering work wasn't even feasible until centuries later. He pioneered the field of realistic art.

But I'm kinda biased in these respects.