Playa Lung ??!!??!!!???

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Re: Playa Lung ??!!??!!!???

Postby Bin Noddin » Fri Sep 30, 2011 6:48 pm

Ahh, Simon, Simon. Not all of us have lungs made of bullhide.
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Re: Playa Lung ??!!??!!!???

Postby Simon of the Playa » Fri Sep 30, 2011 6:58 pm

maybe if they smoked cigarettes they would...

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Re: Playa Lung ??!!??!!!???

Postby subliminalkick » Fri Oct 07, 2011 8:53 pm

I wore a Buff esientially a micro fiber 1 piece bandana worked perfect
NASTY stuff that dust is
it doned on me som thing really close to da dust in consistancy and texture is dry wall dust
redoing the kids rooms and was head to toe powder man and i sorta felt a nestalgoa for home
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on a second not if ur paranoid brin alomg a respo mask dual chamber filter thing little hard to breath in but NOTHIN is geting past one of those just be sure to buy extra filters

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Re: Playa Lung ??!!??!!!???

Postby graidawg » Sat Oct 08, 2011 11:03 am

subliminalkick wrote:I wore a Buff esientially a micro fiber 1 piece bandana worked perfect
NASTY stuff that dust is
it doned on me som thing really close to da dust in consistancy and texture is dry wall dust
redoing the kids rooms and was head to toe powder man and i sorta felt a nestalgoa for home
JUST SayiN

on a second not if ur paranoid brin alomg a respo mask dual chamber filter thing little hard to breath in but NOTHIN is geting past one of those just be sure to buy extra filters


can anyone translate this for me?
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Re: Playa Lung ??!!??!!!???

Postby MOOP_Nazi » Sat Oct 08, 2011 11:36 am

graidawg wrote:
subliminalkick wrote:I wore a Buff esientially a micro fiber 1 piece bandana worked perfect
NASTY stuff that dust is
it doned on me som thing really close to da dust in consistancy and texture is dry wall dust
redoing the kids rooms and was head to toe powder man and i sorta felt a nestalgoa for home
JUST SayiN

on a second not if ur paranoid brin alomg a respo mask dual chamber filter thing little hard to breath in but NOTHIN is geting past one of those just be sure to buy extra filters


can anyone translate this for me?


No....

Look at my Avatar - does it look like I would get "playa lung"??

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Re: Playa Lung ??!!??!!!???

Postby goathead » Sat Oct 08, 2011 1:10 pm

wish they would read their ticket.
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Re: Playa Lung ??!!??!!!???

Postby theCryptofishist » Sat Oct 08, 2011 8:43 pm

graidawg wrote:
subliminalkick wrote:I wore a Buff esientially a micro fiber 1 piece bandana worked perfect
NASTY stuff that dust is
it doned on me som thing really close to da dust in consistancy and texture is dry wall dust
redoing the kids rooms and was head to toe powder man and i sorta felt a nestalgoa for home
JUST SayiN

on a second not if ur paranoid brin alomg a respo mask dual chamber filter thing little hard to breath in but NOTHIN is geting past one of those just be sure to buy extra filters


can anyone translate this for me?

Okay.
I wore a face scrubber, basically a very small one-piece swim-suit; the scarf worked perfectly even though it was horrible and made out of dust.
The dome fell on him while he was smoking soma and he got covered in dust, so he's putting up dry wall next time. He's practicing it over and over in the kids' rooms and he gets covered in dust every time. And he gets covered in dust.


Sorry, that's just as confusing in translation. Babelfish, you've failed me again!
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Re: Playa Lung ??!!??!!!???

Postby FuckingEh » Mon Nov 14, 2011 2:01 pm

Two months on, and I'm still kicking out the jams.

I have taken to putting cushions underneath the foot of my bed, so that I'm sleeping at an incline \
But seriously, the best thing that has helped: I bought a humidifier!

Since getting a humidifier, I'm coughing a lot less.

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Re: Playa Lung ??!!??!!!???

Postby Roberto Dobbisano » Mon Nov 14, 2011 2:04 pm

perhaps switch from Capri 120's to Capri 120's Light...


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Re: Playa Lung ??!!??!!!???

Postby LostinReno » Tue Nov 15, 2011 10:33 am

Roberto Dobbisano wrote:perhaps switch from Capri 120's to Capri 120's Light...


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Its like smoking a pinner! It's really hard to smoke those without holding it like a joint. :shock:

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Re: Playa Lung ??!!??!!!???

Postby teardropper » Fri Nov 25, 2011 8:53 pm

LostinReno wrote: ...like a joint...


Te-he-he... he said joint...
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Re: Playa Lung ??!!??!!!???

Postby theCryptofishist » Sat Nov 26, 2011 7:52 am

psst. Teardropper. LostinReno is a woman...
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Re: Playa Lung ??!!??!!!???

Postby teardropper » Sat Nov 26, 2011 9:29 am

...details...
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Re: Playa Lung ??!!??!!!???

Postby Mamachicken32 » Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:04 pm

You can actually buy a playa lung face mask... http://www.playalung.com/products-page/ I bought a few replacement pads and it worked. I also brought my asthma machine with me and a nettie kettle
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Postby dana » Sat Sep 01, 2012 7:12 pm

Bling wrote:t "respirable crystallized silica (RCS)" is nasty stuff and best avoided if possible. Folks who work as sandblasters, for example--day in and day out for YEARS--are at risk for silicosis.


But here's my question for you: How do you know that the Playa contains RCS?. From my research, it looks like it's next to impossible to determine whether a sample has it or not. See Table 3 in this chart to see what I mean. http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/silicacrystall ... index.html

So, how do you know?


Exactly. Particle size is everything.
Why do I suspect it may be fine enough to pose a risk? A few things: Believe it or don't I've read that even the talcum powder people use to dust their baby's ass posing a risk. The thick coat of stuff on your car at the end of the week has about the same consistency as talcum. very fine.
I also note how much stuff you see at night when there really isn't any wind - the particles are just sort of floating there. Again that means they are small enough to get aspirated.
Comparable risks - farmers. Out plowing their fields with a thick cloud of dust around their tractor. (One of the occupations with a higher risk of developing silicosis because dust that is fine enough to easily float about is fine enough to cause the disease.)
Finally all the people that develop "playa lung". Which is either simple infectious spread from so many people in close proximity and immune systems taking a hit after a week of 'living large' or it's from the dust. As far as the dust both the silica and the fine organic matter is a possible culprit.


So yeah, ET is a little OCD there. It happens. I remember the time I was waiting for my first HIV test to come back (after plenty of exposure working at Highland Hospital in East bay.) Paranoid fantasies gone wild for a while.
I just wear a 2 band dust mask (suitable for drywall) during storms. I also wear both ear plugs and earphones when running a chainsaw or shooting, so I guess I'm more careful than many with these things.

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Re: Playa Lung ??!!??!!!???

Postby gyre » Mon Sep 03, 2012 4:02 pm

Silicosis is primarily contracted from glass particles or minerals close to this hardness.

The materials are mostly heavy enough to be controlled relatively easily.

The safe exposure levels to such materials is 0 parts per million.


I can't address the danger of the playa, but i don't think it rises to that level.

There are doctors that always wear a surgical grade mask on the playa though.

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Re: Playa Lung ??!!??!!!???

Postby Bob » Mon Sep 03, 2012 4:45 pm

Amazing desert structures & stuff: http://sites.google.com/site/potatotrap/

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Re: Playa Lung ??!!??!!!???

Postby maryanimal » Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:28 pm



I always knew you were a man of few words Bob, but this one takes the cake! *swoon* :mrgreen:
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Re: Playa Lung ??!!??!!!???

Postby oscillator » Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:38 pm

Caught a case of PL a few years back - just let it play out for 6 weeks or so. YMMV.

Now *waaay* more diligent about using masks & shemaughs.

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Re: Playa Lung ??!!??!!!???

Postby teardropper » Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:47 pm

Have a bit of post BM hack - smoked no tobacco or dope. Probably won't kill me - but if it does my ash will add to the next BM dust out. You all will be hackin' a bit of me... heh-heh
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Re: Playa Lung ??!!??!!!???

Postby some seeing eye » Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:59 pm

A good thread revived from the dead and even with a physician burner on it.
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Re: Playa Lung ??!!??!!!???

Postby MacGlenver » Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:19 am

Last year I had no breathing issues. This year I was basically fine also, but had something akin to a sore throat, but it was more like muscle pain in my throat that grew during the week (none for several days, then becoming fairly painful the last few days). Very minimal smoking while I was out there, so that surely wasnt the cause. I used shemaghs & masks, but only when things got really dusty. It quickly began to subside after I left the playa and was gone about 3-4 days after I was back in Defaultia. No idea the cause, etc, but it'll be something I pay attention to next year to see if it repeats.
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Re: Playa Lung ??!!??!!!???

Postby AntiM » Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:41 am

I was using a saline nasal rinse and avoided my usual sore throat. Hmmm?
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Re: Playa Lung ??!!??!!!???

Postby theCryptofishist » Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:47 am

Early arrivals might have been breathing smoke from forest fires to the west.
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Postby catinthefunnyhat » Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:12 am

dana wrote:Finally all the people that develop "playa lung". Which is either simple infectious spread from so many people in close proximity and immune systems taking a hit after a week of 'living large' or it's from the dust. As far as the dust both the silica and the fine organic matter is a possible culprit.


I developed a cough at BM this year and was wondering if it was the dreaded Playa Lung or simply a URI from proximity to so many people (not to mention a compromised immune system due to sleep deprivation, exertion, various overindulgences). It had characteristics that were suggestive of both -- on the one hand, it seemed to develop into a "regular" cold (sniffling, congestion) towards the end of the week, yet on the other, all symptoms disappeared suspiciously soon after I left the dust (and once I had blown all the grey crud out of my sinuses).

I wonder if it's a combination of things -- if the dust irritates the mucous membranes in the throat/sinuses (and maybe, in severe cases, bronchi and/or lungs), I imagine that would cause symptoms, but might it also increase the risk of infection?
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Re: Playa Lung ??!!??!!!???

Postby itaintwhatitseems » Wed Sep 04, 2013 2:24 pm

And people are still dumb enough to camp on a DRY LAKE BED with cancer causing silica dust??? Just look what it does to your car.......that's what your lungs will look like. BM should be held on a orange grove or corn field SOMEWHERE, but a dry lake bed - very dumb

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Re: Playa Lung ??!!??!!!???

Postby theCryptofishist » Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:16 pm

So, it seems like a troll, but it isn't actually? I'll plonk anyway.
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Re: Playa Lung ??!!??!!!???

Postby Canoe » Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:44 pm

itaintwhatitseems wrote:... silica dust ...

cite?
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Re: Playa Lung ??!!??!!!???

Postby itaintwhatitseems » Wed Sep 04, 2013 11:58 pm

Canoe wrote:
itaintwhatitseems wrote:... silica dust ...

cite?


this thread has quite a bit of info on the breakdown of what is in the dust and it cant be good.

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Re: Playa Lung ??!!??!!!???

Postby Canoe » Thu Sep 05, 2013 3:39 am

itaintwhatitseems wrote:
Canoe wrote:
itaintwhatitseems wrote:... on a DRY LAKE BED with cancer causing silica dust ...

cite?
this thread has quite a bit of info on the breakdown of what is in the dust and it cant be good.

cite to the presence of silica dust in playa soil
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