BOYCOTT THE BURN

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BOYCOTT THE BURN

Postby uncle sticky » Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:28 am

BOYCOTT THE BURN:
Whether you think that the Borg is evil, inept, or a well-meaning bunch of scatter brained artists, the ticket situation is a disaster. Asking them to fix the situation is going to accomplish nothing. Remember, this is the fix they put in to address the sell-out.
What we need is a Burner based do-ocracy solution, and I humbly suggest this:
Don't go. Don't buy tickets from scalpers, don't buy tickets from the Bmorg pool, don't volunteer at the gate, just don't go. Decrease the demand, tank the ticket price, prank the scalpers.
Buying face value tickets won’t do it. You’re still decreasing supply. You need to abstain. Boycott. Don’t participate in the Bmorg sponsored re-distribution scheme.
If you do have tickets, sell them. But not to other burners. Contact the stub-hub, ebay and craigslist scalpers. Tell them you have face value tix to sell, and put them into their hands.
The only way to stop scalping of burning man tickets is to destroy the financial incentives that will always exist as long as demand exceeds supply. If we, as a community, can rally and show the profiteers that Bman tickets are too risky, they’ll stop. It’s up to you, you’re a burner, you make burning man what it is, and by refusing to go this year, you will make it better.
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Re: BOYCOTT THE BURN

Postby Simon of the Playa » Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:31 am

you have fun with that...


hey, i got an idea, why dont you violate the TOS and crosspost this bullshit?

oh wait, you're a step ahead of me...
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Re: BOYCOTT THE BURN

Postby remi » Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:33 am

No thanks.. I will attend.
Can you at least admit that nuclear explosions are awesome!?

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Re: BOYCOTT THE BURN

Postby ygmir » Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:34 am

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Re: BOYCOTT THE BURN

Postby remi » Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:35 am

no thanks..

p.s... you don't need to copy and paste your bullshit into different catagories.
Can you at least admit that nuclear explosions are awesome!?

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Re: BOYCOTT THE BURN

Postby knowmad » Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:36 am

“You see, as you get older, things that you used to like start looking and sounding like shit. And things that seemed shitty as a child don’t seem as shitty. With you, somehow, the wires have gotten crossed, and everything looks and sounds like shit to you. It’s a condition called Being a Cynical Asshole.”
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Re: BOYCOTT THE BURN

Postby The CO » Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:37 am

A boycott implies that I am upset with them. I'm not.
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Re: BOYCOTT THE BURN

Postby shykat » Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:37 am

knowmad wrote:“You see, as you get older, things that you used to like start looking and sounding like shit. And things that seemed shitty as a child don’t seem as shitty. With you, somehow, the wires have gotten crossed, and everything looks and sounds like shit to you. It’s a condition called Being a Cynical Asshole.”



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Re: BOYCOTT THE BURN

Postby vargaso » Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:52 am

I'm totally with you!! If I'm not able to score a ticket, I'm definitely boycotting this year's burn.

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Re: BOYCOTT THE BURN

Postby toaster » Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:16 am

has any... any year getting to Burning Man been easy? If it were easy we would not appreciate it as much. The journey there is part of the experience and part of it is adversity. Someone reminded me of that last night on one of the lists...
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Re: BOYCOTT THE BURN

Postby piehole » Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:24 am

knowmad wrote:“You see, as you get older, things that you used to like start looking and sounding like shit. And things that seemed shitty as a child don’t seem as shitty. With you, somehow, the wires have gotten crossed, and everything looks and sounds like shit to you. It’s a condition called Being a Cynical Asshole.”


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Re: BOYCOTT THE BURN

Postby theCryptofishist » Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:35 am

How many times will I be cross posting if I say that I adore Simon?
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Postby tamarakay » Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:39 am

Fishy we agree on so many things.
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Re: BOYCOTT THE BURN

Postby Trishntek » Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:41 am

Boy I'll show them all right,,,, just to show BMORG what I think of their system I'm NOT GONNA HAVE ANY FUN THIS YEAR! so there!
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Re: BOYCOTT THE BURN

Postby theCryptofishist » Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:46 am

Tek is right, I'm going to Hold My Breathe Until I Turn Blue!!!
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Postby Eric » Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:59 am

Edit: Multiple threads merged.
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Re: BOYCOTT THE BURN

Postby vargaso » Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:03 am

toaster wrote:has any... any year getting to Burning Man been easy? If it were easy we would not appreciate it as much. The journey there is part of the experience and part of it is adversity. Someone reminded me of that last night on one of the lists...


You know, no. It's not that difficult. Sure, it can be a lot of work, but seriously, it's mostly fun, even the drive out there. And it's a DRIVE, we're not exactly stagecoaching it on the Oregon Trail. There's very little chance of dying of dysentery. We're going on vacation. Yes, a different type of vacation that most, but still, an optional vacation. So, I don't buy into this reasoning.

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Re: BOYCOTT THE BURN

Postby jella » Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:04 am

Yeah , ummmmm NO
Burning Man isn't about the stuff you see when you get there ....it's about the people that brought that stuff there

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Re: BOYCOTT THE BURN

Postby Ugly Dougly » Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:05 am

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Re: BOYCOTT THE BURN

Postby maryanimal » Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:30 am

Boycotting is a great idea!! So I'm boycotting this thread!!
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Re: BOYCOTT THE BURN

Postby tattoogoddess » Mon Feb 06, 2012 12:09 pm

vargaso wrote:I'm totally with you!! If I'm not able to score a ticket, I'm definitely boycotting this year's burn.



Damn it now I have pepsi all over my lap top! Damn you Vargaso!

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Re: BOYCOTT THE BURN

Postby lemur » Mon Feb 06, 2012 12:46 pm

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Re: BOYCOTT THE BURN

Postby uncle sticky » Mon Feb 06, 2012 8:36 pm

Sorry about the cross-posting, but I think the idea deserves some thought, and not just in the ticket forum. I believe that the ticket shortage, and figuring out how to deal with it, is a huge threat to the nature of the event. It's not about punishing the Org, since they've already been paid, nor is it about tearing down the event, or protesting the org, whom I think tried their best, and just didn't realize how it would turn out. Having attended for a few years in a row, and understanding the nature of the organization and who runs it, I think it's up to the community to figure out a way to get the scalpers out of the system, since the organization, in spite of their best efforts, are unlikely to come up with a working solutions. Besides, isn't doing it for yourself what Burning Man is about?

It's an idea about taking the profit motive out of the event for scalpers. If, and yes it's a big if, demand for re-sale tickets dropped enough that the scalpers wouldn't make a high enough return to justify their efforts, they would see the event as being too risky to continue buying up as many tickets as they could. Right now, they are counting the money they think they'll make, and expecting the Burner community to act like any other concert go-er. I'm suggesting you don't.

I don't know if it lends any credibility or not, but I didn't put in for tickets this year, because I needed a year off. I'm not complaining about not getting a ticket and didn't try to get one, but I am very concerned for the future of the event. So, that's my thought process.
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Re: BOYCOTT THE BURN

Postby aka'aka » Mon Feb 06, 2012 8:44 pm

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Re: BOYCOTT THE BURN

Postby tattoogoddess » Mon Feb 06, 2012 8:46 pm

uncle sticky wrote: figuring out how to deal with it, or protesting the org,



Dealing with it- Realizing there is not enough ticket so you have to options 1. Work your ass off to find one or wait till the very last min and buy one from someone who had plans fall through or B. Just not go. It is not the end of the world. There will be next year. I had to miss NYE in NYC cause of a snow storm yes i planned and saved but it just did not work. Some time shit happens and things suck.

Boycott is protesting.
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Re: BOYCOTT THE BURN

Postby Litup » Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:09 pm

tattoogoddess wrote:
vargaso wrote:I'm totally with you!! If I'm not able to score a ticket, I'm definitely boycotting this year's burn.



Damn it now I have pepsi all over my lap top! Damn you Vargaso!

LMAO


I just did the same thing with that quote! Except it was a Mike's and it came out my nose. Oh the shame of it. :oops:

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Re: BOYCOTT THE BURN

Postby Mosquitopilate » Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:33 pm

NO WAY I AM GOING TO BOYCOTT BM NO CHANCE IN HELL - I am in full begging mode for 1 ticket people and I am not going to be shy about it....STEP ! :D
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Re: BOYCOTT THE BURN

Postby bubbavic » Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:04 am

I think there are far more productive methods of pushing change than boycotting an event or organization. I think what you meant actually was...boycott scalpers not boycott the burn.
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Re: BOYCOTT THE BURN

Postby BBadger » Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:10 am

Oh great, now we'll see a lot of people who simply didn't win tickets claiming they're "boycotting" the event.
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Re: BOYCOTT THE BURN

Postby oneeyeddick » Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:24 am

uncle sticky wrote:

I don't know if it lends any credibility or not, but I didn't put in for tickets this year, .


But you want us to boycott the Burn for you???

Well, then you sir, are a fascist.
We have an obligation to make space for everyone, we have no obligation to make that space pleasant.


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