Piehole, if I had a ticket to give, I would give it to you for this post. Nuff said.piehole wrote:ALRIGHT EVERYBODY JUST CALM DOWN
turn up your speakers and listen to this:
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Piehole, if I had a ticket to give, I would give it to you for this post. Nuff said.piehole wrote:ALRIGHT EVERYBODY JUST CALM DOWN
turn up your speakers and listen to this:
[youtube][/youtube]
and then go to bed
+100Dr. Pyro wrote:It's too bad they took down the Tickets thread from 2011. As late as August 28 there were tickets available at cost. People cancel out, get arrested, change jobs, die, and so on. Burners are a particularly unreliable group to follow through with last-minute plans. Do not change your plans to get to the desert. Things will work out. This will be my 14th year and I've seen it all. So cheer up and we'll see you in the dust.
urvile wrote:For dog's sake people, STEP or scalpers is not going to be the ONLY way to get a ticket. Tickets have changed hands in plenty of ways prior to it, and they will continue to be. It's a bit early for all the doom and gloom I'm seeing.
This totally sucks balls!! If I'm lucky enough to get one in step(doubtful) and I can't get a find a second ticket elsewhere(also doubtful). I either need to convince my gf that I'm going alone (very doubtful) or scrap all plans to attend without being able to get my money back or sell to someone to help complete their group?? It's definitely getting weird!!Drawingablank wrote:Wow, that makes this whole thing seem like even more of a suck fest.Eric wrote:Once you've bought a ticket in STEP, it's yours. Period. I don't see anything in the blog about returning it to STEP if you decide you don't want it, but there is definitely no way for it to be scalped or sold.
So couples who get one with step but can't secure a second one elsewhere may have to just abandon the ticket and their money. And the worst part is that the much needed ticket then goes to waste!
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vargaso wrote:Any word on how the STEP queue will be determined? By date you registered in the lottery maybe? Shit, I hope not, I didn't register until the last day.
Don't give up hope. I remember last year when tickets first sold out, it was a mad scramble, and everyone was freaking out. As we got closer and closer to the event, tickets seemed become more and more available as people's plans changed, and the folks who were hanging on to extra tickets figured out who they should go to. There's going to be plenty of people who can't take the time off, or realize it's really far away, costs a lot of money, etc.tattoogoddess wrote:urvile wrote:For dog's sake people, STEP or scalpers is not going to be the ONLY way to get a ticket. Tickets have changed hands in plenty of ways prior to it, and they will continue to be. It's a bit early for all the doom and gloom I'm seeing.
Thank you!!!
If I don't get a low income. Can't come up with the $390 for the "camp tickets" ( how ever that works out) I will be looking every single day on craigs list to find a ticket! I have my train ticket booked and all is a go. I will be trying to pull in as many extra hours as I can get and cut down on food if it means me being able to get a ticket. Don't give up people!!
I don't understand why they are trying to band aid a wound that clearly needs stitches.the ratio was so unexpectedly large it has punched significant holes in Black Rock City's artistic, civic and functional infrastructure, putting the integrity of the event itself at risk. If we let market forces play out as they could with the remaining available tickets, it's likely that Black Rock City would be functionally untenable for many of the collaborations that comprise our desert event.
pink wrote:I didn't read this so much as 'Big Theme camps will get tickets' as 'the volunteers necessary to ensure the infrastructure is in place' will get tickets.
Gate. DPW. Rangers. Cafe. Medical. Arctica. Lamplighters. Playa Info. BMIR.
Many of these really, really, important areas are short of staff. As I understand it, just volunteering for a bazillion years does not necessarily get you a staff ticket. Being a shift boss at Cafe does not necessarily get you a ticket. But the people in these positions need to be there.
Sure anyone can volunteer to sling ice at Arctica or coffee at Cafe for an afternoon. I've done both, and recommend it highly. But someone has to manage these areas, or the Cafe could be shut down by the Nevada Dept of Health or the city run out of ice. Someone has to build the city and take it down again. Someone has to treat your wounds, medivac you to Reno.
And somehow with 'Moop Map' as one of the criteria, I don't think some of the big sound camps will be getting preferential treatment.
First: Yes, thankfully the LLC is going away, a fundamental reform.JRoyale wrote:
First of all, the LLC is on the way out. Burning Man is converting itself to a non-profit... about 13 years too late in my opinion. But still, change is coming.
Second, just about everyone was caught off base with the surge in demand. Deal.
Third, I know (because I've talk too them) that they are horrified about how this all went down.
Fourth, the normal way to deal with a problem of scarcity is to jack up the price. Is that how you what Burning Man to price tickets in 2013? (which they won't do) but honestly, any other method of allocating a scarce resource is difficult and prone to failure.
urvile wrote:By the way, there has been a serious lack of rain this year so far. Unless that changes, and changes soon, we can probably look forward to really awful playa conditions with immense amounts of dust.
Hopefully it will be so dusty and inhospitable the weak and unprepared will be driven off playa, and go home and tell everyone how much burning man sucksdanibel wrote:urvile wrote:By the way, there has been a serious lack of rain this year so far. Unless that changes, and changes soon, we can probably look forward to really awful playa conditions with immense amounts of dust.
I am looking forward to BIG dust this year! BIG wind! Bring it playa goddess! Bring it.
Yesss, and what remains of my camp will be relaxing comfortably in their Airstream trailers that have positive-pressure filtered ventilation systems that we custom built while the weak get their tents blown away or filled with dirt. That which doesn't kill me makes me a super-villain! mwahahha!danibel wrote:urvile wrote:By the way, there has been a serious lack of rain this year so far. Unless that changes, and changes soon, we can probably look forward to really awful playa conditions with immense amounts of dust.
I am looking forward to BIG dust this year! BIG wind! Bring it playa goddess! Bring it.
It's still 2 full weeks until STEP opens, I'm sure that question & others (like- can tickets be returned to STEP if you're unable to go so you don't lose your money) will be answered with time to spare. It's only been a few hours since it was posted, I'm sure they're a bit slammed right now.Mosquitopilate wrote:I really think that is a question that needs to be answered..It says 1st come 1st serve for STEP, now does that mean on feb 29th on ? Time you register is where you will be in "line" to get a ticket?
I'm not so sure that was the goal. I think the goal was to provide a way for people to buy tickets that would know were the genuine article, and not fakies.BBadger wrote:It's almost bizarre how this new STEP decision effectively undermines the entire goal that people should use STEP exclusively for finding their tickets.
You said it! Changing the rules in the middle of the game is utter non sense.BBadger wrote:Making an unpopular system is one thing; changing the rules of the game late into the game is entirely another. You can't compensate for what you can't rely on. While I'm not an opponent of change itself, I am against changing the rules late in the game.
Eric, I appreciate that you are generally even-keel in your posts and attempt to be fact-based.Eric wrote:It's still 2 full weeks until STEP opens, I'm sure that question & others (like- can tickets be returned to STEP if you're unable to go so you don't lose your money) will be answered with time to spare. It's only been a few hours since it was posted, I'm sure they're a bit slammed right now.Mosquitopilate wrote:I really think that is a question that needs to be answered..It says 1st come 1st serve for STEP, now does that mean on feb 29th on ? Time you register is where you will be in "line" to get a ticket?
No it's not for that, because you can't even sell fake tickets as they aren't even in circulation yet. It's not like people will be accepting IOUs on a confirmation number. STEP was made as a way to transfer ticket ownership prior to actual ticket distribution, in that gap between now and June when tickets would be sold, and to facilitate face-value sales in a BMOrg sponsored system. They want people to use the system so that some controls are kept on how tickets are transferred between people (i.e. not in the open-market where scalpers could play a role).urvile wrote:I'm not so sure that was the goal. I think the goal was to provide a way for people to buy tickets that would know were the genuine article, and not fakies.BBadger wrote:It's almost bizarre how this new STEP decision effectively undermines the entire goal that people should use STEP exclusively for finding their tickets.
That is a far cry from trying to make it the exclusive system for transfer, and I have not seen any communication from the org that would suggest they wanted it to be the exclusive system of transfer. When people get their physical tickets, there will be many of them being gifted and sold (hopefully for face). Being able to give a ticket to a friend has been part of the system for ever, and will continue to be. I for one, would not want to put my ticket into a random pool, I would give it to someone I thought needed to go. And it should always be the case that I can do so.BBadger wrote:No it's not for that, because you can't even sell fake tickets as they aren't even in circulation yet. It's not like people will be accepting IOUs on a confirmation number. STEP was made as a way to transfer ticket ownership prior to actual ticket distribution, in that gap between now and June when tickets would be sold, and to facilitate face-value sales in a BMOrg sponsored system. They want people to use the system so that some controls are kept on how tickets are transferred between people (i.e. not in the open-market where scalpers could play a role).urvile wrote:I'm not so sure that was the goal. I think the goal was to provide a way for people to buy tickets that would know were the genuine article, and not fakies.BBadger wrote:It's almost bizarre how this new STEP decision effectively undermines the entire goal that people should use STEP exclusively for finding their tickets.
I think part of the problem is that they actually had a plan for STEP when they announced it back in November (not under that name, but as an in-house resale program), but they had nothing planned as a back-up if they had to change in mid-stream. It doesn't look like they had a lot of back-up plans on this, but, honestly, they've been reacting fairly quickly now that everything is in turmoil. For whatever that tidbits worth...mshaman wrote:Eric, I appreciate that you are generally even-keel in your posts and attempt to be fact-based.Eric wrote:It's still 2 full weeks until STEP opens, I'm sure that question & others (like- can tickets be returned to STEP if you're unable to go so you don't lose your money) will be answered with time to spare. It's only been a few hours since it was posted, I'm sure they're a bit slammed right now.
Regarding STEP, I suspect these questions will be answered as they figure them out... like much of what we've seen this year, the STEP process seems to be "make-it-up-as-we-go-along". What seems to be the case so far is that a vague or general statement of policy is made.