*Nods* That's what I was thinking.theCryptofishist wrote:One of the things that breaks my heart--or at least bends it hard--about the low-income discussions is seeing how much people hate the poor. If you're poor you should never have any fun, or vacation, or any break in the utter misery of your daily routine of eating your cold can of spam and applying for 83 minimum wage jobs.KrisMuffin wrote:If my response seemed defensive, it because it was. If "they" really are reading these boards and people are trying to say that 13,000 a year is absolutely NOT low income frankly upsets me. It's a low income ticket not just a no income one, and I really hope the person who asked that question above still applies. (My explanation to the oragnization will be different, promise)
It gets pretty mean spirited...
Yes, it's a vacation and no one absolutely literally needs to leave home for one. Still, it's nice to be able to have one once every once in a long while, and it's a sweet extra bonus to have it in a setting that's not your own home... where if you are low income it's reasonably likely you take most of your time off in/near.
In my experience, the ticket price is pretty much the only hard cash you absolutely need in hand. I guess it just sort of makes me a little sad that there's this strong notion floating around that other low income people who also don't have cash in hand right at the moment and would like to ask for assistance to bring the trip into something they can responsibly afford flat out shouldn't go... or they're irresponsible and/or should be able to strain their wallets even more to eek out a full price ticket. (I'm low income and nobody tells me I'm irresponsible for going... nope, just the folks who apply for a low income ticket. It makes me upset each time I hear it especially when it's directed at people who volunteer for more stuff than I could ever dream of.) If anyone can even really begin to argue that they "need" a vacation I think it's the folks working a whole bunch of hours at several crappy minimum (or below minimum wage) jobs just to scrape by.
It get's tiring hearing the whole spiel that it's rewarding irresponsibility. Low income folks are often good at making stuff work out financially without being too irresponsible because that's what we're stuck doing the other 51 weeks of the year.