Fast Pass???

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Re: Fast Pass???

Postby lemur » Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:29 pm

as a photographer i think the person who didnt want people to see their point one image is a total fool...

there is a fine line between protecting your work and being an overbearing douche like sonny bono.


i guess Bob might be asking the right question..
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Re: Fast Pass???

Postby theCryptofishist » Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:42 pm

Working off more of the pre-playa tension...
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Re: Fast Pass???

Postby oneeyeddick » Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:27 pm

I use point 1 all the time for Exodus....on Wednesday!!!
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Re: Fast Pass???

Postby Bob » Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:42 pm

And far be it from me to call Oneeyeddick an inconceivably huge cunt.
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Re: Fast Pass???

Postby Canoe » Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:53 pm

Eric wrote:Thread restored as copyrighted images have been removed, as per copyright holders request (TOS, Section 8 )

Interesting, as when I saw his comment about the image, I checked the image carefully for any copyright notice. Nothing. Just some decoration in the lower corner that looks like its tied to a theme camp or something. Checked info within the file, but no EXIF info and all the IPTC fields, including Author and Copyright were blank. At the site where it was hosted, no copyright notice nor ownership claim, but there was on the page an "all rights reserved" (site viewed with Firefox? others see something different?). No copyright claim on the image or part of the file. Doesn't seem a very good way to protect an image.
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Re: Fast Pass???

Postby stew » Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:50 am

Canoe wrote:
Eric wrote:Thread restored as copyrighted images have been removed, as per copyright holders request (TOS, Section 8 )

Interesting, as when I saw his comment about the image, I checked the image carefully for any copyright notice. Nothing. Just some decoration in the lower corner that looks like its tied to a theme camp or something. Checked info within the file, but no EXIF info and all the IPTC fields, including Author and Copyright were blank. At the site where it was hosted, no copyright notice nor ownership claim, but there was on the page an "all rights reserved" (site viewed with Firefox? others see something different?). No copyright claim on the image or part of the file. Doesn't seem a very good way to protect an image.

AS a rule of thumb, everything is copyrighted until there is a note saying it isn't. I am no lawyer, but to my knowledge that's how things are in most jurisdiction.
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Re: Fast Pass???

Postby BBadger » Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:19 am

Yup, Copyright is implicit in most countries. There are also "fair use" laws, but I don't know how they apply to the images that were removed.
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Re: Fast Pass???

Postby Lonesomebri » Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:20 am

All I know is that if someone tries to copy my proprietary cocktail mix, which I will be gifting to the community out of the righteousness found deep within my artist heart, and then share that tasty elixir with anyone else, for any reason, my lawyers are going roll over you like a pulsating disco bus over a hipster darkward wandering out on the dark dusty playa.
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Re: Fast Pass???

Postby CrispyDave » Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:08 pm

Lonesomebri wrote:All I know is that if someone tries to copy my proprietary cocktail mix, which I will be gifting to the community out of the righteousness found deep within my artist heart, and then share that tasty elixir with anyone else, for any reason, my lawyers are going roll over you like a pulsating disco bus over a hipster darkward wandering out on the dark dusty playa.
You have all been warned. Cheers, mates !!!!


Quick "Take a picture of it and post it to anywhere" you will be good as it will be copyrighted....
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Re: Fast Pass???

Postby Canoe » Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:26 pm

BBadger wrote:Yup, Copyright is implicit in most countries. There are also "fair use" laws, but I don't know how they apply to the images that were removed.

Don't know how 'fair use' is defined, or would apply, but I found this definition.
Fair use is a limitation and exception to the exclusive right granted by copyright law to the author of a creative work. In United States copyright law, fair use is a doctrine that permits limited use of copyrighted material without acquiring permission from the rights holders. Examples of fair use include commentary, criticism, news reporting, research, teaching, library archiving and scholarship. It provides for the legal, unlicensed citation or incorporation of copyrighted material in another author's work.

More interestingly, the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals recently ruled that embedding a link on a site to view something on another site is not a copyright infringement as no copy has been made. Not even when the material on the other site is an unauthorized copy of copyrighted material and that copy is therefore a copyright infringement; the site hosting the copy is in violation, but any site with a link to the copy is not.

The web is an interesting world.
More and more I'm seeing people using Creative Commons Licenses, not just for software, but for art and entertainment works.
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Re: Fast Pass???

Postby nixiebunny » Sun Aug 19, 2012 1:20 am

Lots of image copyright discussion for a post about Exodus. But Internet interactions can be like that.

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Re: Fast Pass???

Postby maladroit » Sun Aug 19, 2012 1:33 am

Probably 99% of the images posted in this forum, used as avatars, signatures, etc are not being posted by the copyright holder, or with any attribution. Might as well disable them all.


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