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Disclaimers for dangerous activities

Postby uncle sticky » Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:12 am

I know the back of the ticket (bott) covers alot, but I'm not sure enough. I think that Thunderdome relies on the BOTT for any injuries sustained in their facility, but I wonder if anybody out there uses a waiver? Willing to share? What other risk abatement/mitigation do you use when offering potentially dangerous activities on the playa?
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Re: Disclaimers for dangerous activities

Postby theCryptofishist » Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:40 am

This is a poor place to get (and probably give) legal advice.
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Re: Disclaimers for dangerous activities

Postby TT120 » Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:14 am

Keep in mind that those signed waivers only help to make the signee think there is nothing thay can do if they get hurt. If it ever went to court, that signed waiver wouldn't mean shit.
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Re: Disclaimers for dangerous activities

Postby ygmir » Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:19 am

TT120 wrote:Keep in mind that those signed waivers only help to make the signee think there is nothing thay can do if they get hurt. If it ever went to court, that signed waiver wouldn't mean shit.


this^^^^

the waiver, is essentially "smoke" to try to say you were "informed". but, the reality is, you can't sign away a constitutional right.
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Re: Disclaimers for dangerous activities

Postby theCryptofishist » Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:37 am

I signed away my right to party.
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Re: Disclaimers for dangerous activities

Postby ygmir » Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:44 am

theCryptofishist wrote:I signed away my right to party.

is this why you party democrat?
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Re: Disclaimers for dangerous activities

Postby theCryptofishist » Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:03 am

ygmir wrote:
theCryptofishist wrote:I signed away my right to party.

is this why you party democrat?

No, if you check my camp affiliations, I'm in the Bolshevik (i.e. Menshevik) Party and the Polka Party.
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Re: Disclaimers for dangerous activities

Postby ygmir » Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:06 am

theCryptofishist wrote:
ygmir wrote:
theCryptofishist wrote:I signed away my right to party.

is this why you party democrat?

No, if you check my camp affiliations, I'm in the Bolshevik (i.e. Menshevik) Party and the Polka Party.

well still, left...........
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Re: Disclaimers for dangerous activities

Postby theCryptofishist » Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:27 am

theCryptofishist wrote:I signed away my right to party.

ygmir wrote:is this why you party democrat?

theCryptofishist wrote:No, if you check my camp affiliations, I'm in the Bolshevik (i.e. Menshevik) Party and the Polka Party.

ygmir wrote:well still, left...........

If you check around, most people think the Polka Party is antediluvian.
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Re: Disclaimers for dangerous activities

Postby BBadger » Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:02 pm

The key is to ensure that your interactive art piece is dangerous enough that mere injuries cannot occur -- only death.

Dead people can't sue.
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Re: Disclaimers for dangerous activities

Postby International Incident » Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:30 pm

ygmir wrote:
TT120 wrote:Keep in mind that those signed waivers only help to make the signee think there is nothing thay can do if they get hurt. If it ever went to court, that signed waiver wouldn't mean shit.


this^^^^

the waiver, is essentially "smoke" to try to say you were "informed". but, the reality is, you can't sign away a constitutional right.


'sactly (says the lawyer...)

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Re: Disclaimers for dangerous activities

Postby trilobyte » Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:21 pm

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Re: Disclaimers for dangerous activities

Postby ygmir » Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:45 pm

theCryptofishist wrote:
theCryptofishist wrote:I signed away my right to party.

ygmir wrote:is this why you party democrat?

theCryptofishist wrote:No, if you check my camp affiliations, I'm in the Bolshevik (i.e. Menshevik) Party and the Polka Party.

ygmir wrote:well still, left...........

If you check around, most people think the Polka Party is antediluvian.



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Re: Disclaimers for dangerous activities

Postby trilobyte » Thu May 02, 2013 7:25 am

After a bit more thought, I'm nudging this over to the Q&A board, as it's a better fit for general preparation questions.

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Re: Disclaimers for dangerous activities

Postby lemur » Thu May 02, 2013 7:35 am

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Re: Disclaimers for dangerous activities

Postby lemur » Thu May 02, 2013 7:37 am

Don't link to anything here!

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Re: Disclaimers for dangerous activities

Postby sovietidaho » Sat May 25, 2013 3:11 pm

One of this year's camp offerings will be cattle prod and stun gun tastings. We've done enough research (both academic, and, well, experiential) to feel confident in an incredibly low risk. Much lower than the Thunder Dome, I'll tell you that :-)

Since informed consent is incredibly important to us, we'll have laminated handouts with a summery of our research and a quick run-down of the risks involved. That way if people want more information before they participate, it will be readily available. We know that no signed waiver will cover our asses in the event of a mishap, so this step is about transparency and education, not avoiding litigation.

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Postby EspressoDude » Sat May 25, 2013 4:48 pm

do you wash the cattle prod after insertion and discharge?
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Re: Disclaimers for dangerous activities

Postby theCryptofishist » Sat May 25, 2013 7:38 pm

So, what tastes better, a cattle guard or a stun gun?
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Re: Disclaimers for dangerous activities

Postby knowmad » Sun May 26, 2013 2:41 am

theCryptofishist wrote:So, what tastes better, a cattle guard or a stun gun?

gawd damn I love it when you talk dirty!
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Re: Disclaimers for dangerous activities

Postby TT120 » Sun May 26, 2013 6:28 am

Stun guns make your mouth taste like metal. Maybe it was the fillings in my teeth electroplating to my tongue but still.....
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Re: Disclaimers for dangerous activities

Postby Aurelia » Sun May 26, 2013 7:33 am

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Re: Disclaimers for dangerous activities

Postby tatonka » Sun May 26, 2013 8:16 am

im old enough that if I pass on out there , Ive had a good life :)
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Re: Disclaimers for dangerous activities

Postby uncle sticky » Sun May 26, 2013 8:51 am

tatonka wrote:im old enough that if I pass on out there , Ive had a good life :)

Try not to do that until AFTER you've taught the boxing seminar and preferably left the camp. If you're not feeling well I'll move you from Face Punch Friday to Mix It Up Monday.
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Re: Disclaimers for dangerous activities

Postby tatonka » Mon May 27, 2013 7:45 am

uncle sticky wrote:
tatonka wrote:im old enough that if I pass on out there , Ive had a good life :)

Try not to do that until AFTER you've taught the boxing seminar and preferably left the camp. If you're not feeling well I'll move you from Face Punch Friday to Mix It Up Monday.


I feel great , ya just never know when its your time :)
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Re: Disclaimers for dangerous activities

Postby knowmad » Mon May 27, 2013 3:39 pm

I just follow the cliché; If I asked, "Hold this drink! Watch This" Things are about to get Janky.
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