Will Call the bung hole of BM

unjonharley · Post by **unjonharley** » Sun Jun 16, 2013 9:33 pm

Lets talk abut the cluster f*&k will call will be this year..

In years passed, You would creep along in the gate line till the end of time.. Then have to pull out of the line and park.. Get in line for ever to pick up your ticket.. Then back to creeping to the gate.. That is so much fucking fun......

A will call line to a parking area just off the HWY would go a long way towards helping.. Not waiting until the last dog is shot to open that line..Being able to inter the gate line with out the other traffic going into the kill mood.. (Like ..Who the dose that guy think he is jumping in front of me..)

keep telling people BM isn't worth it.

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Sun Jun 16, 2013 10:39 pm

What about getting your tickets in the mail?

International Incident · Post by **International Incident** » Sun Jun 16, 2013 11:09 pm

Come on - it is not that bad. GET. OVER. IT.

Or why don't you volunteer to help instead of just whinging.

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Sun Jun 16, 2013 11:45 pm

When it gets REALLY bad, just close your eyes and remember that you can afford to go to fucking Burning Man every year and not have to suck mud out of a ditch just to stay alive.

Haha, "whinging"...

Post by **trilobyte** » Sun Jun 16, 2013 11:47 pm

Sorry to rain on your grumpy parade, unjon, but gate and will call have made some significant improvements in the last couple years. In fact, despite a peak population of over 56K last year and record numbers of will call ticketholders, gate and will call ran more smoothly and quickly than they have in many, many years (hats off to the staffers and volunteers who helped make that happen).

BBadger · Post by **BBadger** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:01 am

You make your bed, you sleep in it. Get paper tickets next time if it's such a problem.

Anyway, the goal of the gate is to maintain throughput, not address individual latency. A will-call exclusive would be a waste of that extra line -- a line that should also benefit the in-hand ticket holders. Plus, by the time you get to the end to pick up will-call tickets you're nearly at the end.

Captain Goddammit · Post by **Captain Goddammit** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:11 am

I've been in that line... the way I look at it is "Hey I'm in Black Rock City! Even waiting in the entry line is better than being home in the middle of winter!!!"

GreyCoyote · Post by **GreyCoyote** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 6:45 am

I vote we fire each and every one of those slackers working Will Call. And maybe Gate too (those guys are massively overpaid and rude!) Then we need to talk about the guys running the ice line, and how art cars never seem to come when you hail them unless you are rich, single and mostly naked. And the dust problem: why arent those idiots driving the water trucks also spraying down the open playa to the south? Complete dumbasses if you ask me, and obviously not enough trucks to to a workmanlike job.

Burning Man needs to get with the picture. I didnt pay all this money for such crappy service. And hire some cuter sparkleponies, too!

mudpuppy000 · Post by **mudpuppy000** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 7:15 am

unjonharley · Post by **unjonharley** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 7:18 am

That giant rat has these responders in mind melt.

Dizzy World is where you go to buy tickets to stand in 'line'.. So you can yell at your whinny screaming kids.. "I payed good money to stand in this line.. Your going to enjoy yourself or else".. Guess you will be real happy to dump the brats..
Go out on the desert and be Burner than tho over anyone you can get one up on..

9ah · Post by **9ah** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 9:36 am

I'm looking forward to the WC line... I hope they have lemon heads and fire balls when I pick up my ticket.

BoyScoutGirl · Post by **BoyScoutGirl** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:05 am

I am perfectly willing to spend an antsy hour - even a few antsy hours - right outside the gate to avoid roughly a month of worry mounting into low-grade panic over whether my ticket will be delivered to the correct address after having just moved and then whether I'll somehow lose/misplace/forget it. And if I were coming from overseas and had two postal systems to worry over? Easy choice. Buying last minute through the OMG lottery? No choice.

My ticket got to me in the mail just fine last year but boy howdy was it stressful. Waiting in a stop-and-go line may be hot, tiring, and frustrating, but at least I know where my ticket is!

Similarly, I have a feeling that, when buying an after-market ticket from an unknown party, it may be safer to go the will call route. Can anybody confirm/deny this gut feeling? The "avoid fraud" FAQ complete steps around this question, presumably because nothing's a guarantee...

unjonharley · Post by **unjonharley** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:40 am

Hope they have a D lot for WC.. I could screw the dog there and jump onto the gate line when it opens..

mrchiff · Post by **mrchiff** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 12:40 pm

unjonharley wrote:Hope they have a D lot for WC.. I could screw the dog there and jump onto the gate line when it opens..

No they don't. They have a D-lot for Determining why you don't have your shit together. Screw the dog all you want, but don't figure it's going to be a shortcut. .. but then, it's all about you so ignore the rest of the folks.

unjonharley · Post by **unjonharley** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 1:03 pm

mrchiff wrote:

No they don't. They have a D-lot for Determining why you don't have your shit together. Screw the dog all you want, but don't figure it's going to be a shortcut. .. but then, it's all about you so ignore the rest of the folks.

Hey why don't you take flying??

Not looking for a shortcut.. Hoping to be able to park out of traffic for time.

The D lot is for early arrives to wait to enter.. It's a good thing.. Peoples drive times are all different..

winterdream28 · Post by **winterdream28** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 1:56 pm

Wow.... then there are some folks like myself who are lookign everywhere for tickets and do not care if we need to wait a whole day in line to get in,.... yet people complain. Be thankful you guys are going, it is all about the Journey, enjoy the ups and downs of it

If folks are really so caught up in this part please note that there are folks who will gladly take these problems and concerns off your hand.

GreyCoyote · Post by **GreyCoyote** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 2:16 pm

unjonharley wrote:Hope they have a D lot for WC.. I could screw the dog there and jump onto the gate line when it opens..

I think you have screwed the pooch already with this thread.

You want Burning Man but only on your terms. Good luck with that.

oly14 · Post by **oly14** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 2:23 pm

I'm with you winterdream. I too am looking for tickets and I look forward to the opportunity to wait in the WC line. It's all part of the experience as far as I'm concerned.

unjonharley · Post by **unjonharley** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 2:57 pm

oly14 wrote:I'm with you winterdream. I too am looking for tickets and I look forward to the opportunity to wait in the WC line. It's all part of the experience as far as I'm concerned.

Are you guys in STEP.. Unless it's an eye to eye getting a ticket.. STEP saves you the stress..

Maybe we can plan a party in the WC line.. Potato salad and beans.. Lots of beans.

winterdream28 · Post by **winterdream28** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:16 pm

unjonharley wrote:
oly14 wrote:I'm with you winterdream. I too am looking for tickets and I look forward to the opportunity to wait in the WC line. It's all part of the experience as far as I'm concerned.
Are you guys in STEP.. Unless it's an eye to eye getting a ticket.. STEP saves you the stress..

Maybe we can plan a party in the WC line.. Potato salad and beans.. Lots of beans.

..... lots of beans for your visit to the shrine of porto-sans? Yes STEP (double check), e-playa plea (check), burner friends networking (check) now it is in the hands of good ole destiny (so cheessssy) if we make it:)

unjonharley · Post by **unjonharley** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:26 pm

It was just yesterday that some one was giving up there rental RV.. They said "we"
That could only mean some tickets were on the loses

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 6:33 pm

"Loses"?

I am going to show up early and tell Will Call that I am "Unjon" and that I forgot my ID.

unjonharley · Post by **unjonharley** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 7:04 pm

Wont work.. Every one knows how pretty I am...

kiss-o-matic · Post by **kiss-o-matic** » Tue Jun 18, 2013 2:44 am

Dunno... I think Will Call was the thing that ran least smoothly in my experience. The car line was about 2 hours, and I was assured that was lightening fast based on years, so a hat tip there. Will Call took me about 90 minutes though. It did not look like it should take that long. It was explained to me before, but I still don't see why someone can't go up the queue before the car goes through to get their tickets. This was quite a downer for my group, as we had 3 people w/ WC tickets. Luckily, there was more than 1 vehicle, but we met up by chance outside of Reno.

I understand there might be ticket difficulties that might muck things up, but surely any vehicles affected could park in the Will Call parking lot. Compare this to a party that is broken up, and has to find their rest of their party at an un-registered camp site. Seems like the former is far more desirable for all parties.

All that aside, there is one huge improvement they could make, and we can file it under not reinventing the wheel. 1 Line... when a window opens, burner goes up to that window. Some people that started in the queue with me went out at about half the speed. So yeah, maybe my experience was about as bad as possible.

mrchiff · Post by **mrchiff** » Wed Jun 19, 2013 8:26 am

unjonharley wrote:
mrchiff wrote:

No they don't. They have a D-lot for Determining why you don't have your shit together. Screw the dog all you want, but don't figure it's going to be a shortcut. .. but then, it's all about you so ignore the rest of the folks.
Hey why don't you take flying??

Not looking for a shortcut.. Hoping to be able to park out of traffic for time.

The D lot is for early arrives to wait to enter.. It's a good thing.. Peoples drive times are all different..

I'm curious, what part of "Don't show up early" doesn't apply to you? I also believe your description of D-lot is not wholly accurate.

CornMan · Post by **CornMan** » Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:19 am

Expect to get flamed if you share ideas that you think might help make things better. There seems to be an almost soviet mentality among many in this crowd. "It's got to be this way because that's the way it's always been," is the mantra.

FIGJAM · Post by **FIGJAM** » Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:07 am

Naw, it's just to test your resolve.

Post by **Savannah** » Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:12 am

kiss-o-matic wrote:Dunno... I think Will Call was the thing that ran least smoothly in my experience. The car line was about 2 hours, and I was assured that was lightening fast based on years, so a hat tip there. Will Call took me about 90 minutes though. It did not look like it should take that long. It was explained to me before, but I still don't see why someone can't go up the queue before the car goes through to get their tickets. This was quite a downer for my group, as we had 3 people w/ WC tickets. Luckily, there was more than 1 vehicle, but we met up by chance outside of Reno.

Yes, 2 hours in the entrance line is truly 1-3 hours faster than usual. Will Call typically adds 30-60 minutes, but it can be hard to say. I'm sure it sucked to wait 90 minutes at Will Call, but you still got lucky.

Gate doesn't want you to leave your car to get your tickets after many, many instances in which someone left their car and could not find it. Cell reception is slim to none, and people get separated.

unjonharley · Post by **unjonharley** » Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:45 am

Savannah wrote:

Gate doesn't want you to leave your car to get your tickets after many, many instances in which someone left their car and could not find it. Cell reception is slim to none, and people get separated.

All the more reason to have a Will Call parking lot..

Start in the gate line, pull out, park, get your ticket and back into gate line..

Mean while people with ticket in hand can keep moving up..

Post by **Savannah** » Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:55 am

According to the Gate website, there is a Will Call lot. (I remember it vaguely. I picked up my ticket at Will Call last year, but since I rarely drive, I didn't really focus on the lot.)

http://gate.burningman.com/faq-gate.php

If you want to talk to Gate about anything, you could try the "contact us" link. GPE is unlikely to visit this site and take suggestions, so you'll want to go to them.

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