Well you know what they say about rats and sinking ships.Simon of the Playa wrote:all i know is if detroit was 83% white it would have already been bailed out...
just sayin'...
Does your theme camp embrace racial diversity?
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I've got to say that I'm not at all a fan of that second post. YMMV.Dr. Pyro wrote:My guess if that were the demographic make up of Detroit it wouldn't need bailing out.Simon of the Playa wrote:all i know is if detroit was 83% white it would have already been bailed out...
Exactly.Elliot wrote:By the way, my town of Clearlake is 74% white and 4% black. Our city government is perpetually on the verge of bankruptcy. Just saying -- there are many factors involved.
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Predominately white, with a smattering of asian and hispanic. Given that all those terms are fuzzy. And that that can be the ethic background of a single participant.
I think that thing about african americans and their churches has been a double edge sword. And I think african american culture is less monolithic than Harvey gives credit for.
Wonder what would happen if it became known that Will Smith (for instance) attended regularly (note: not an actual fact, I just made it up), would african american attendance rise? or would most african americans shrug and say something about his going white. (Possibly in a different way than I just did.)
Doc can be an ass. For what it's worth, on playa he is an open and generous host.
You might want to ask Savannah. She will have a more nuanced and pertinent experience than I do.
I think that thing about african americans and their churches has been a double edge sword. And I think african american culture is less monolithic than Harvey gives credit for.
Wonder what would happen if it became known that Will Smith (for instance) attended regularly (note: not an actual fact, I just made it up), would african american attendance rise? or would most african americans shrug and say something about his going white. (Possibly in a different way than I just did.)
Doc can be an ass. For what it's worth, on playa he is an open and generous host.
You might want to ask Savannah. She will have a more nuanced and pertinent experience than I do.
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my solution to the demographic imbalance is to saturate the Hizood with High Quality LSD.
quite frankly, it just might work. Call the chemists.
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great......"what ifs"............yeah that helps.
get a decent discussion going, good repartee, and we have to jump into "if it were white folks"..........
Jeebus!!! what if it were Mouri? What if it were all penguins?
How about "it was mismanaged, so, it's bankrupt". That, we know.
Foogin speculation is just fuel for a fire that does not need to burn/
get a decent discussion going, good repartee, and we have to jump into "if it were white folks"..........
Jeebus!!! what if it were Mouri? What if it were all penguins?
How about "it was mismanaged, so, it's bankrupt". That, we know.
Foogin speculation is just fuel for a fire that does not need to burn/
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There's only one race and I refuse to compete!!! 
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No, we don't.
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Burning man is a bunch of rich white folk 
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Democrats?Dr. Pyro wrote:We have Republicans and Jews in our camp. How much more diversified can you get?
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There is an effort to bring rich black folk there too!strange love wrote:Burning man is a bunch of rich white folk
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And naked colored people no less!Shambala wrote:Last year we voted to allow colored people into our camp.![]()
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And what are you "just sayin'" exactly? Go ahead, spell out for us. I'm sure I'm not the only one that wants to be clear on your meaning.Dr. Pyro wrote:My guess if that were the demographic make up of Detroit it wouldn't need bailing out.Simon of the Playa wrote:all i know is if detroit was 83% white it would have already been bailed out...
just sayin'...
Just sayin'...
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theCryptofishist wrote:Doc can be an ass. For what it's worth, on playa he is an open and generous host.

I'm not usually that stupid. Sorry.
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Man, no wonder they always win....." Lonesomebri
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have any cities been bailed out?jkisha wrote:And what are you "just sayin'" exactly? Go ahead, spell out for us. I'm sure I'm not the only one that wants to be clear on your meaning.Dr. Pyro wrote:My guess if that were the demographic make up of Detroit it wouldn't need bailing out.Simon of the Playa wrote:all i know is if detroit was 83% white it would have already been bailed out...
just sayin'...
Just sayin'...
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I look forward to being nuanced and pertinent tomorrow when my camping gear is safely in Motskyroonmatick's gentlemanly clutches!theCryptofishist wrote:Predominately white, with a smattering of asian and hispanic. Given that all those terms are fuzzy. And that that can be the ethic background of a single participant.
I think that thing about african americans and their churches has been a double edge sword. And I think african american culture is less monolithic than Harvey gives credit for.
Wonder what would happen if it became known that Will Smith (for instance) attended regularly (note: not an actual fact, I just made it up), would african american attendance rise? or would most african americans shrug and say something about his going white. (Possibly in a different way than I just did.)
Doc can be an ass. For what it's worth, on playa he is an open and generous host.
You might want to ask Savannah. She will have a more nuanced and pertinent experience than I do.
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Savannah wrote:I look forward to being nuanced and pertinent tomorrow when my camping gear is safely in Motskyroonmatick's gentlemanly clutches!theCryptofishist wrote:Predominately white, with a smattering of asian and hispanic. Given that all those terms are fuzzy. And that that can be the ethic background of a single participant.
I think that thing about african americans and their churches has been a double edge sword. And I think african american culture is less monolithic than Harvey gives credit for.
Wonder what would happen if it became known that Will Smith (for instance) attended regularly (note: not an actual fact, I just made it up), would african american attendance rise? or would most african americans shrug and say something about his going white. (Possibly in a different way than I just did.)
Doc can be an ass. For what it's worth, on playa he is an open and generous host.
You might want to ask Savannah. She will have a more nuanced and pertinent experience than I do.
Right now I'm supposed to be packing false eyelashes and caution tape bathing suit cover. The essentials.
fixed it for ya.
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Well I have to say that our camp seems ethnically diverse - although not as diverse as general population statistics would consider diverse. I would be 100% against any policy to restrict diversity, but I think other factors affect the diversity of BM.
That being said, I just spent a weekend trying to convince my brother in law to burn this year. He watched the videos and just said "you white folks are insane to want to camp there". This may or may not be indicative of the attitude that prevents more diversity.
Regardless of the fact that the burn is the last bastion where you don't have to be politically correct - I have never witnessed any outright racism at the burn, or heard so much as a racial slur there.
That being said, I just spent a weekend trying to convince my brother in law to burn this year. He watched the videos and just said "you white folks are insane to want to camp there". This may or may not be indicative of the attitude that prevents more diversity.
Regardless of the fact that the burn is the last bastion where you don't have to be politically correct - I have never witnessed any outright racism at the burn, or heard so much as a racial slur there.
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Savannah, I know you can multi-task this. You're an inspiration.
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Man, no wonder they always win....." Lonesomebri
Re: Does your theme camp embrace racial diversity?
My old camp was the same fucking way. DO NOT TALK POLITICS OR RELIGION. ONE WEEK BREAK FROM THAT CRAP.goathead wrote:we also practice radical ejection from the bar for talking religion, politics, default crap.CapSmashy wrote:Republicans? Jesus man, I humbly submit to your superior adherence to radical inclusion.goathead wrote:India, Philippines, Germany, UK, black, white, whatever, we even let republicans camp with us.
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Why Madame, I'm sure I don't know what you mean . . .theCryptofishist wrote:Savannah, I know you can multi-task this. You're an inspiration.
I'm not even reading this read right now!
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I have no clue. I think only big banks and corporations get bailed out. But Michigan has an unusual policy for handling failing cities by appointing a special manager. His part in the bankruptcy is also unusual. Though I don't know how this relates.ygmir wrote:
have any cities been bailed out?
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Not that I know of. Detroit wasn't bailed out, but General Motors and Chrysler, which are both headquartered in Detroit, were bailed out in the automotive industry bailout of 2009. As I'm sure you can imagine, the financial troubles of those two companies had nothing to do with the racial makeup of Detroit.ygmir wrote:
have any cities been bailed out?
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It took me a bit to realize that this is supposed to be OJ as a white person. That is some freaky looking shit. It reminds me of one of my favorite SNL skits; it cracks me up everytime:Roberto Dobbisano wrote:
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Looks more like Arnold Schwartzeneger as a black person to me.littlebird wrote:It took me a bit to realize that this is supposed to be OJ as a white person. That is some freaky looking shit. It reminds me of one of my favorite SNL skits; it cracks me up everytime:Roberto Dobbisano wrote:
http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/ ... -me/n9308/
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On a slightly different note...I didn't specify gender on our camp requirements. And, to my surprise..then later not...our camp turned out to be mostly women. I love their interpretation of BloodBath&Beyond! And, just let it flow.
I don't care what your race, gender or sexual preference is...so I don't ask. It is probably the last thing on my mind. Which is why I don't embrace the notion that you need to fill a quota. If your cool and can tolerate punk music, you're in!
For the record, our racial make up is Whities, Indian and Israeli.
I don't care what your race, gender or sexual preference is...so I don't ask. It is probably the last thing on my mind. Which is why I don't embrace the notion that you need to fill a quota. If your cool and can tolerate punk music, you're in!
For the record, our racial make up is Whities, Indian and Israeli.
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looking at this site i am led to the conclusion that i am not white
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so, if no cities have been "bailed out", where does the question and statement about Detroit, it's make up, and any bailout, come from?
how is it pertinent, at all?
how is it pertinent, at all?
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Confession: We have Fords, Chevys, and (gasp!) even a Dodge or two in our camp. We pride ourselves on our diversity!
IMHO if someone wants to be an idiot and start some bad pooky over random labels, trucks make a lot more sense than dunning people due to their race. You are STUCK with your race (well, there is Michael Jackson I guess) but you can trade-in a truck on a whim.
Darned Dodge drivers anyway. (((-shudder-)))
IMHO if someone wants to be an idiot and start some bad pooky over random labels, trucks make a lot more sense than dunning people due to their race. You are STUCK with your race (well, there is Michael Jackson I guess) but you can trade-in a truck on a whim.
Darned Dodge drivers anyway. (((-shudder-)))
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